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Originally Posted by Sergey

I'm still around - but I'm seemingly a broken man who's life has just ended :blah::blah::blah:

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We missed you ,welcome back , you can't be right all the time ,but you had at least a 99 % success rate so your broken heart will mend am sure all the yams will be giving you pelters on there site but every dog has his day :wink:

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

But at least you would have shown some remorse and accepted what you did in first place was wrongs .there is none of that from this mob that I can see so far.

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:agree: That`s the big issue for me when it comes to them. I probably wouldn`t have begrudged them their survival if they had shown a different attitude and had perhaps tried to make some amends for what they had done. But they have done the opposite. And the media are there cheering them on every step of the way. It`s actually bizarre in some ways that nobody is challenging them on it and of course it`s so wrong in so many ways.

It`s the kind of thing you`d expect to see here in Brazil, where everything from corruption to overspending millions that clubs don`t have without accountability to players being convicted of murder is all somehow seen as being exempt from normal moral standards. Because it involves football, it`s somehow okay. The icing on the cake is the world cup, where nearly 9 billion pounds (15 - 20 times the predicted costs) have somehow been "spent" on the stadiums alone using 90% of taxpayers money (after the politicians promised that 0% of taxpayers money would be used) but next to nothing has been spent on badly needed infrastructure such as the chronic traffic problems, the crumbling education, electrical and health systems, the poor, the unemployed, the airports, the decaying roads and pavements and the dreadfully inadequate public transport systems. The very rich and a number of high profile companies have profited to an unimaginable degree and the rest of the country is being told to forget the rest and shut up and enjoy the world cup. The world cup coming here is nothing short of a crime on a vast scale. But, like Hearts, as long as nobody holds them to account then nothing will happen.

There are various protests and disruptions planned for the world cup (as well as those happening now) and things could get very ugly indeed very quickly. Keep your eyes on the opening ceremony for starters - everyone knows that Brazil`s electrical infrastructure is weak, to the extent that there are rumours that they systematically cut power to certain neighbourhoods on a rotating schedule in the wee small hours to share it around, so the plan is for everyone who protests against the world cup to switch on every electrical device in their houses at the moment the opening ceremony begins in an attempt to overload the circuits and kill the power in the stadium. There will undoubtedly be riots and serious problems. "Celebrities" and ex-footballers are queuing up to criticise anybody protesting against the world cup and labelling them unpatriotic, but of course, these are the people who live in mansions with swimming pools and bodyguards and who have countless millions stashed away and who will be getting a few more from their work during the World Cup, not those who are being paid pennies to risk their lives building the stadiums or those millions going hungry who will be left with nothing when the cup comes to an end.

Some people just collectively lose their senses when football is involved. The way it has happened with Hearts is a national shame and disgrace.

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Originally Posted by GreenLake

The best pish ripping is yet to come.

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The best chance of that is them becoming fan owned. Can't see it getting to that with the published financial model. If they do good on them but they will make a total mess of running a club.

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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin

:agree: That`s the big issue for me when it comes to them. I probably wouldn`t have begrudged them their survival if they had shown a different attitude and had perhaps tried to make some amends for what they had done. But they have done the opposite. And the media are there cheering them on every step of the way. It`s actually bizarre in some ways that nobody is challenging them on it and of course it`s so wrong in so many ways.

It`s the kind of thing you`d expect to see here in Brazil, where everything from corruption to overspending millions that clubs don`t have without accountability to players being convicted of murder is all somehow seen as being exempt from normal moral standards. Because it involves football, it`s somehow okay. The icing on the cake is the world cup, where nearly 9 billion pounds (15 - 20 times the predicted costs) have somehow been "spent" on the stadiums alone using 90% of taxpayers money (after the politicians promised that 0% of taxpayers money would be used) but next to nothing has been spent on badly needed infrastructure such as the chronic traffic problems, the crumbling education, electrical and health systems, the poor, the unemployed, the airports, the decaying roads and pavements and the dreadfully inadequate public transport systems. The very rich and a number of high profile companies have profited to an unimaginable degree and the rest of the country is being told to forget the rest and shut up and enjoy the world cup. The world cup coming here is nothing short of a crime on a vast scale. But, like Hearts, as long as nobody holds them to account then nothing will happen.

There are various protests and disruptions planned for the world cup (as well as those happening now) and things could get very ugly indeed very quickly. Keep your eyes on the opening ceremony for starters - everyone knows that Brazil`s electrical infrastructure is weak, to the extent that there are rumours that they systematically cut power to certain neighbourhoods on a rotating schedule in the wee small hours to share it around, so the plan is for everyone who protests against the world cup to switch on every electrical device in their houses at the moment the opening ceremony begins in an attempt to overload the circuits and kill the power in the stadium. There will undoubtedly be riots and serious problems. "Celebrities" and ex-footballers are queuing up to criticise anybody protesting against the world cup and labelling them unpatriotic, but of course, these are the people who live in mansions with swimming pools and bodyguards and who have countless millions stashed away and who will be getting a few more from their work during the World Cup, not those who are being paid pennies to risk their lives building the stadiums or those millions going hungry who will be left with nothing when the cup comes to an end.

Some people just collectively lose their senses when football is involved. The way it has happened with Hearts is a national shame and disgrace.

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Interesting post it's not just football remember seeing some country get the euro vision song contest and they quickly up rooted a whole community that had lived there for donkeys and built a nice new shiny stadium to host the biggest piece of crap going So corruption is rife the world over .

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Originally Posted by Sergey

I'm still around - but I'm seemingly a broken man who's life has just ended :blah::blah::blah:

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Then you must be an Easter Jesus Zombie who's life has ended twice, because they already killed you with the rest of us, the May before last.

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Originally Posted by Sergey

I'm still around - but I'm seemingly a broken man who's life has just ended :blah::blah::blah:

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Thank god for that, I was worried about the betting tips_ one of my biggest sources of income :-)

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Originally Posted by GreenLake

I think it is only the end of the beginning. The best pish ripping is yet to come.

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Indeed - regardless of the frozen share issue (or not) - there's got to be a good chance they'll start next season in administration - given we'll be in May when the CVA can actually be formally accepted.

I don't think they'll be anywhere near a play off if they start on -15 next season too. Successive relegations is more likely.

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Originally Posted by Sergey

I'm still around - but I'm seemingly a broken man who's life has just ended :blah::blah::blah:

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well to be fair, it did seem that way after your 10 year post rant

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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin

:agree: That`s the big issue for me when it comes to them. I probably wouldn`t have begrudged them their survival if they had shown a different attitude and had perhaps tried to make some amends for what they had done. But they have done the opposite. And the media are there cheering them on every step of the way. It`s actually bizarre in some ways that nobody is challenging them on it and of course it`s so wrong in so many ways.

It`s the kind of thing you`d expect to see here in Brazil, where everything from corruption to overspending millions that clubs don`t have without accountability to players being convicted of murder is all somehow seen as being exempt from normal moral standards. Because it involves football, it`s somehow okay. The icing on the cake is the world cup, where nearly 9 billion pounds (15 - 20 times the predicted costs) have somehow been "spent" on the stadiums alone using 90% of taxpayers money (after the politicians promised that 0% of taxpayers money would be used) but next to nothing has been spent on badly needed infrastructure such as the chronic traffic problems, the crumbling education, electrical and health systems, the poor, the unemployed, the airports, the decaying roads and pavements and the dreadfully inadequate public transport systems. The very rich and a number of high profile companies have profited to an unimaginable degree and the rest of the country is being told to forget the rest and shut up and enjoy the world cup. The world cup coming here is nothing short of a crime on a vast scale. But, like Hearts, as long as nobody holds them to account then nothing will happen.

There are various protests and disruptions planned for the world cup (as well as those happening now) and things could get very ugly indeed very quickly. Keep your eyes on the opening ceremony for starters - everyone knows that Brazil`s electrical infrastructure is weak, to the extent that there are rumours that they systematically cut power to certain neighbourhoods on a rotating schedule in the wee small hours to share it around, so the plan is for everyone who protests against the world cup to switch on every electrical device in their houses at the moment the opening ceremony begins in an attempt to overload the circuits and kill the power in the stadium. There will undoubtedly be riots and serious problems. "Celebrities" and ex-footballers are queuing up to criticise anybody protesting against the world cup and labelling them unpatriotic, but of course, these are the people who live in mansions with swimming pools and bodyguards and who have countless millions stashed away and who will be getting a few more from their work during the World Cup, not those who are being paid pennies to risk their lives building the stadiums or those millions going hungry who will be left with nothing when the cup comes to an end.

Some people just collectively lose their senses when football is involved. The way it has happened with Hearts is a national shame and disgrace.

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Best post on here for a long time..

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Originally Posted by Kato

The best chance of that is them becoming fan owned. Can't see it getting to that with the published financial model. If they do good on them but they will make a total mess of running a club.

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Fan ownership for Hearts is my ultimate dream but failing that, Budge and the plonkers at Fuds On Horlicks will provide good entertainment for the next few years. :LOL:

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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin

:agree: That`s the big issue for me when it comes to them. I probably wouldn`t have begrudged them their survival if they had shown a different attitude and had perhaps tried to make some amends for what they had done. But they have done the opposite. And the media are there cheering them on every step of the way. It`s actually bizarre in some ways that nobody is challenging them on it and of course it`s so wrong in so many ways.

It`s the kind of thing you`d expect to see here in Brazil, where everything from corruption to overspending millions that clubs don`t have without accountability to players being convicted of murder is all somehow seen as being exempt from normal moral standards. Because it involves football, it`s somehow okay. The icing on the cake is the world cup, where nearly 9 billion pounds (15 - 20 times the predicted costs) have somehow been "spent" on the stadiums alone using 90% of taxpayers money (after the politicians promised that 0% of taxpayers money would be used) but next to nothing has been spent on badly needed infrastructure such as the chronic traffic problems, the crumbling education, electrical and health systems, the poor, the unemployed, the airports, the decaying roads and pavements and the dreadfully inadequate public transport systems. The very rich and a number of high profile companies have profited to an unimaginable degree and the rest of the country is being told to forget the rest and shut up and enjoy the world cup. The world cup coming here is nothing short of a crime on a vast scale. But, like Hearts, as long as nobody holds them to account then nothing will happen.

There are various protests and disruptions planned for the world cup (as well as those happening now) and things could get very ugly indeed very quickly. Keep your eyes on the opening ceremony for starters - everyone knows that Brazil`s electrical infrastructure is weak, to the extent that there are rumours that they systematically cut power to certain neighbourhoods on a rotating schedule in the wee small hours to share it around, so the plan is for everyone who protests against the world cup to switch on every electrical device in their houses at the moment the opening ceremony begins in an attempt to overload the circuits and kill the power in the stadium. There will undoubtedly be riots and serious problems. "Celebrities" and ex-footballers are queuing up to criticise anybody protesting against the world cup and labelling them unpatriotic, but of course, these are the people who live in mansions with swimming pools and bodyguards and who have countless millions stashed away and who will be getting a few more from their work during the World Cup, not those who are being paid pennies to risk their lives building the stadiums or those millions going hungry who will be left with nothing when the cup comes to an end.

Some people just collectively lose their senses when football is involved. The way it has happened with Hearts is a national shame and disgrace.

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Thank god for that, I was worried about the betting tips_ one of my biggest sources of income :-)

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And Leith Links' :greengrin

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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin

The icing on the cake is the world cup, where nearly 9 billion pounds (15 - 20 times the predicted costs) have somehow been "spent" on the stadiums alone using 90% of taxpayers money.

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Jeezus - Could have had a tram from the airport to York Place for that sort of money!

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

No way. They're going to be debt-free, remember. :rolleyes:

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Do you think they'll go the same way as us since our 'Dark Times' when Mercer tried to wipe us out - a determination to NEVER be in that position again, a resolve which Rod has rigidly stuck to ever since ??. Personally, I don't think they will - their years of 'Other folks money' has given them a genuine belief that they ARE a 'Big Team'. Eric Miligan's incredible statement yesterday, part of which contained that absolute belter 'Hearts have a history that stands comparison with any club in the world - never mind Scotland' tells me that their 'Mentality' remains as it has been for the last 30+ years.

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Do you think they'll go the same way as us since our 'Dark Times' when Mercer tried to wipe us out - a determination to NEVER be in that position again, a resolve which Rod has rigidly stuck to ever since ??. Personally, I don't think they will - their years of 'Other folks money' has given them a genuine belief that they ARE a 'Big Team'. Eric Miligan's incredible statement yesterday, part of which contained that absolute belter 'Hearts have a history that stands comparison with any club in the world - never mind Scotland' tells me that their 'Mentality' remains as it has been for the last 30+ years.

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Hearts have committed a financial crime that stands comparison with any other in the world - never mind football.

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Originally Posted by GreenLake

Hearts have committed a financial crime that stands comparison with any other in the world - never mind football.

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All sense of perspective has now been officially lost.

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Originally Posted by GreenLake

Hearts have committed a financial crime that stands comparison with any other in the world - never mind football.

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Oh dear

Hearts, one of the biggest football criminals in history.
Wonder where they would be in the league table of written off debt?

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Originally Posted by marinello59

All sense of perspective has now been officially lost.

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The Great Train Robbery amounted to a loot of £46million in today's money. Movies and books have been written about it. One of the culprits bolted to foreign country and became a fugitive. You think the Yams don't compare with that? Jeez! :greengrin

I am not really surprised the Lithuanian Administrators didn't get a better deal for the creditors. They have obviously buckled under the intense pressure eminating from BDO and hypocritical politicians (is there any other sort?) and recommended acceptance of this derisory settlement.

I think it is safe to assume that they were informed that there was no way on earth planning permission to re-develop the site would be granted. Was there not a quotation from one of the administrators alluding to Political pressure, riots, mayhem, exploding tanks of toxic industrial chemicals etc?

Ah well. Debt free but morally bankrupt!

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

Interesting post it's not just football remember seeing some country get the euro vision song contest and they quickly up rooted a whole community that had lived there for donkeys and built a nice new shiny stadium to host the biggest piece of crap going So corruption is rife the world over .

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzYzVMcgWhg

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Originally Posted by Stax

Best post on here for a long time..

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Epic rant.

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Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital

Oh dear

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i would rather be tongue in cheek than tongue between their's.

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Originally Posted by jeffers

That's what I thought too.

I had a wee rant on Facebook after the acceptance of the CVA and this is some of the responses I had from a Hearts fan I know:

"Lots of businesses get into financial trouble. And you can rest assured all our taxes are bang up to date" and "actually not only did they apologise some of the fans cleared the debt to the charities with their own money."

I'm in an unusual position in that my Mum and I are Hibbys and season ticket holders, my Dad supports them and has a season ticket at the PBS. So for his benefit I initially didn't want them to die, but the longer it went on, the lack of even a glimmer of remorse, the constant 5-1 and big team/wee team pish, my view changed and by the end I hoped they would be liquidated and be forced to start in the bottom division. The more I think about what has happened the angrier I get - "Lots of businesses get into financial trouble" was the final straw.

I'd like to think that one day they will get what they deserve but if I'm honest I have little hope of that ever happening.

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Am with you there.

The sort of businesses they are referring to are the ones they helped bring down.

Few if any of the businesses started out deliberately outspending their income whilst simultaneously withholding ALL their tax liability and payments to their major suppliers/council and HWU.They were probably trading with the likes of the yam in good faith, shame. Just hope they are all a bit wiser next time.

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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin

:agree: That`s the big issue for me when it comes to them. I probably wouldn`t have begrudged them their survival if they had shown a different attitude and had perhaps tried to make some amends for what they had done. But they have done the opposite. And the media are there cheering them on every step of the way. It`s actually bizarre in some ways that nobody is challenging them on it and of course it`s so wrong in so many ways.

It`s the kind of thing you`d expect to see here in Brazil, where everything from corruption to overspending millions that clubs don`t have without accountability to players being convicted of murder is all somehow seen as being exempt from normal moral standards. Because it involves football, it`s somehow okay. The icing on the cake is the world cup, where nearly 9 billion pounds (15 - 20 times the predicted costs) have somehow been "spent" on the stadiums alone using 90% of taxpayers money (after the politicians promised that 0% of taxpayers money would be used) but next to nothing has been spent on badly needed infrastructure such as the chronic traffic problems, the crumbling education, electrical and health systems, the poor, the unemployed, the airports, the decaying roads and pavements and the dreadfully inadequate public transport systems. The very rich and a number of high profile companies have profited to an unimaginable degree and the rest of the country is being told to forget the rest and shut up and enjoy the world cup. The world cup coming here is nothing short of a crime on a vast scale. But, like Hearts, as long as nobody holds them to account then nothing will happen.

There are various protests and disruptions planned for the world cup (as well as those happening now) and things could get very ugly indeed very quickly. Keep your eyes on the opening ceremony for starters - everyone knows that Brazil`s electrical infrastructure is weak, to the extent that there are rumours that they systematically cut power to certain neighbourhoods on a rotating schedule in the wee small hours to share it around, so the plan is for everyone who protests against the world cup to switch on every electrical device in their houses at the moment the opening ceremony begins in an attempt to overload the circuits and kill the power in the stadium. There will undoubtedly be riots and serious problems. "Celebrities" and ex-footballers are queuing up to criticise anybody protesting against the world cup and labelling them unpatriotic, but of course, these are the people who live in mansions with swimming pools and bodyguards and who have countless millions stashed away and who will be getting a few more from their work during the World Cup, not those who are being paid pennies to risk their lives building the stadiums or those millions going hungry who will be left with nothing when the cup comes to an end.

Some people just collectively lose their senses when football is involved. The way it has happened with Hearts is a national shame and disgrace.

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Some very good & enlightening points, but corruption is world wide & worse in some places, try working in West Africa for an eye opener. Theres.a new metro line opened a couple months ago in Rio which I see a lot of, is busy right now but installed for W.C & Olympics, there's construction on roads etc going on as well, not enough compared to the stadiums but it is there, yes there's corruption but also it's being brought to light in Brazil & hopefully will bring about changes for the better, also everyone's on about the downside of the World Cup & Olympics but what about possible upsides & benefits when the tournaments actually happen? The Olympics in London seemed to be a bit of a success for London & Britain did they not? But back to the original topic, them fleecing £70 mill, being aware of it & now glorying in it cos they've got away with it, & the roles of the "politicians" etc & media, we can only wait & see what's still got to be revealed, but as far as Scottish fitba goes & the size of the clubs involved their actions are way out on their own, lots worse than the Huns imo, after the initial hysteria at getting away with it dies down that will become more evident & I reckon there's a lot more to this saga than what's so far been revealed. We've still got to find out what Vlad (& accomplices)were actually up to during his years there for a start.

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Originally Posted by Deansy

Do you think they'll go the same way as us since our 'Dark Times' when Mercer tried to wipe us out - a determination to NEVER be in that position again, a resolve which Rod has rigidly stuck to ever since ??. Personally, I don't think they will - their years of 'Other folks money' has given them a genuine belief that they ARE a 'Big Team'. Eric Miligan's incredible statement yesterday, part of which contained that absolute belter 'Hearts have a history that stands comparison with any club in the world - never mind Scotland' tells me that their 'Mentality' remains as it has been for the last 30+ years.

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Our debt was around £16 million at one point under RP's stewardship. Was only after the Sky deal was lost that the brakes were put on for real.

I see they have the begging bowls out again.

"As you probably know, Jambos Kickback members have responded magnificently in the club's time of need. Since Hearts went into administration last June, JKB members have donated over £56,000 to the club.

Now we're almost out of the crisis, but the club is asking for supporters to help one last time by buying tickets for games. So JKB is making one final push for fundraising before the end of this tumultuous and historic season. Please take a moment to have a look at this thread.


http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....lub-this-year/ (http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....lub-this-year/)


It's asking members to donate the price of a ticket to Hearts. Thanks to those of you who have already responded so generously.

If you can contribute the price of a ticket it would be great, and if you can't it would still be hugely helpful if you could contribute whatever amount you can to JKB's last fundraising drive. To contribute, please click on the Donate link at the top of any JKB screen, or click on the link below, and follow the directions.


Donate screen (http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/donate/)"

I wonder why their knight in shining armour, Ms Budge, cant bail them out? Maybe they are skint and have no more money for wages which if so would have the effect of another signing ban extended haha

Cue the cake bake again :na na:

Only Yams could describe a season where they plunge into admin and get relegated as "historic"

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I see they have the begging bowls out again.

"As you probably know, Jambos Kickback members have responded magnificently in the club's time of need. Since Hearts went into administration last June, JKB members have donated over £56,000 to the club.

Now we're almost out of the crisis, but the club is asking for supporters to help one last time by buying tickets for games. So JKB is making one final push for fundraising before the end of this tumultuous and historic season. Please take a moment to have a look at this thread.


http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....lub-this-year/ (http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....lub-this-year/)


It's asking members to donate the price of a ticket to Hearts. Thanks to those of you who have already responded so generously.

If you can contribute the price of a ticket it would be great, and if you can't it would still be hugely helpful if you could contribute whatever amount you can to JKB's last fundraising drive. To contribute, please click on the Donate link at the top of any JKB screen, or click on the link below, and follow the directions.


Donate screen (http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/donate/)"

I wonder why their knight in shining armour, Ms Budge, cant bail them out? Maybe they are skint and have no more money for wages which if so would have the effect of another signing ban extended haha

Cue the cake bake again :na na:

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You would think they could only keep going back to fans so many times before they start to get fed up with a Multi millionaire continuing to fleece themBut this is where she has been clever and they have bought into this concept of fans owning the club ,but they probably didn't expect to get bled dry in the process .Think I saw someone on this thread mention that going forward this source of income could be used for player wages so if that's the case they will be forking out for years to come
We could take a leaf out thier book If we had 8 thousand subscribers to leith Lynx that would be some amount of tickets for young kids to boost our attendance .:wink: