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His solution is imposing a new act of union on us? I assume using the weight of English votes in the uk parliament?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
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Originally Posted by Colr
Cheers, Colr
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"Scottish Nationalist party". You know you're not getting anything clued-up as soon as you see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-poli...mpression=true
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"Throwing small bones has not quelled the separatists fervor".
Are we all feeling the love in our family of nations, as the equal partners that we are. 😂
She forgot evel too.
Doffing cap, I'm going to spend my inheritance given to me by my English masters.
not even photoshopped :agree:
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...-man-cg9523lxp
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https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/sta...808869891?s=21
Hilarious thread.
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Are we going to make the Irish pay for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Why we letting the Mexicans off with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
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Ffs the man has lost the plot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Cripes, the guy is a complete muppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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If a world power, like the Faroe Islands, can do it then a wee place like the Isle of Man will have no problem. It will put the sale of jetskis at risk though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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Looking at the plan, people in Scotland would be quicker taking the ferry.
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He’s Trump with a classics degree and a Barbour jacket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That’s really annoying because I ****ing love Barbour jackets.
I'll wait for Starmer's defence of his man Boris before forming my opinion :greengrin
That plan is surely a diversion tactic to distract people from talking about reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I'll wager folk will be transporting Star Trek style before that, or indeed the Scotland - NI one, makes it off the dafties drawing board.
For those with nothing to do tonight Wings over Scotland has made it back onto Twitter under the guise of "CometoGhana" and giving anyone and everyone pelters.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ComeToGhana
I feel sorry for the Welsh. Excluded from the wonder of the Manx roundaboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Especially when that tunnel from Liverpool looks longer than one from Wales to Ireland.[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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:Ummm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
You wonder if Boris ever stops to think about how utterly daft his ideas sound.
Seems like someone else came up with a similar idea a year ago on Facebook/Reddit, albeit as a joke.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/...blems_isle_of/
Surely if we have some belief and ambition we can connect Anglesey to the Isle of Man?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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Could you imagine breaking down in that one? Or a multiple car crash pile up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
A fire?
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Get a tug boat to tow it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...mpression=true
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All over the place from Henry, as ever. He not only thinks it's possible to roll back devolution but that somehow that will be popular. Reading stuff like that, I actually think England needs Scottish independence even more urgently than Scotland does. (Phew, nearly said "we" there. :wink:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He also says a referendum should be refused and then offers advice on how it should be fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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During a pandemic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Unbelievable Jeff
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https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-poli...mpression=true
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https://twitter.com/tadhghickey/stat...121022977?s=21
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Day job blah blah blah blahQuote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
A new poll! From Ipsos/MORI.
Y 52 N 48
Last poll from them was 56-44, so Union all but saved. :wink:
SNP still miles ahead in Holyrood VI.
Constituency/Regional
SNP 52/47
Tory 23/22
Lab 15/14
Lib 5/6
Grn 3/8
At the risk of sounding like a Jambo, is that 22 in a row?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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https://twitter.com/emily_ipsosmori/...044913670?s=21
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The age old British policy of spreading disharmony, lies, getting their opposition involved in infighting, handing out some trinkets and baubles, telling the locals that they're not able to govern themselves, tell them that their government, judiciary etc are not as well run as Westminster not quite working as well as they'd hope. But sadly some believe it. What is happening now is absolutely a British tactic in so many colonised countries for centuries. Hopefully like the other 60+ countries have done we will see that for the bull**** that it is and we will soon join them
In my book, it's only 21 as one poll by Survation wasn't a straight Y/N to the usual question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Looking at the front pages of the rags this week it's hard to argue with anything you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
It's pretty hard to look at the goings on of the last few years around the Westminster parliament and conclude that things here are *that* bad surely? Anyone who falls for it wants to fall for it, because it reinforces their own (unshakeable) worldview.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...mpression=true
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Classic divide and conquerQuote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
100% if the SNP were polling at the low levels of the unionist parties the press and Baillie and Davidson wouldn't be giving a **** about this. They can't touch the FM in Parliament, in debate or at the ballot box. They see this as a way to throw mud about hoping that floating voters will swither and go back to Labour or Tories.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
It is laughable to see unionist commentators salivating at the prospect of Salmond winning. And its also not about process or protecting women, its about trying to bring down NS.
With the ISP nowhere to be seen in polling I hope those that are using their 2nd vote solely for an independence referendum give it to the SNP or Greens.
I agree. Shouldn’t be touching the ISP with a barge pole.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
I think the Greens also need to start upping their game and thinking about their campaign strategy. A lot of people disappointed that they put a candidate forward in Edinburgh last time around, that allowed Ruth Davidson to get in on the constituency vote. If they want to maximise their seats they need to stay away from constituency seats and concentrate on a good List strategy.
Agree that is all it is. Throw as much mud as possible and see what sticks. What happens when you have a compliant mediaQuote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Not sure if this is the right thread for this but hey ho: https://twitter.com/TadhgHickey/stat...64367121022977
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Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Absolutely fantastic :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Im getting a sense from the those in the trenches getting galvanized, and ready for the fight ahead. Having canvassed many in the party regarding the current situation, they're champing at the bit to get going again. If we start out the campaign anywhere near 50/50, we'll drive our number north, leaving the yoons in our wake.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Keep the faith.
Alex Salmond is doing everything in his locker to ruin any chance of independence. Hearts fkr.
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The state broadcaster going all in on the 6 O’Clock News tonight. Pretty disgraceful.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Enough of the Yoon pish ...you Nats get upset when described as Snazi'sQuote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
I really wish you’d stop that. I’m not a fan of using the yoon line, but it’s a pretty harmless put down. Bringing the nazis into this is not only offensive, but it’s absolutely shocking patter. Can you not think of anything else to use that doesn’t compare me to mass murder and genocide. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
fWell I find the term "Yoon" offensive as it was suggested that Unionist's are Loons during the 2014 campaign. However as pointed out to me the term Yoon passes the swear filter so it can be used.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
If it's good enough for Kenny Farq, and David Leask, then it's good enough for me. I've never ever heard them mention Snazi's though. Just you. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Next you'll be telling me not to use the term Hun.
If the term is good enough to describe Arthur Donaldson then it's good enough for me :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
Ok Hun. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
:confused::confused: Never surported Rangers in my puff :na na:Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
I’ve never gassed anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
I got a Conservative campaign leaflet through the door the other day. The whole thing was about stopping the SNP and preventing a referendum, no reference to actual policy. And they accuse the SNP of being obsessed with independence?
I expect BBC Scotland will have a feature or documentary pointing out this sheer hypocrisy, I can't imagine they will just let it pass or indeed, help the Tories push this angle every night on the news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Man
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Can I ask a moderator possibly "Pretty Boy" to decide what is and isn't acceptable terms and then we abide by the decision
As I've said. Yoon is already being used in the Unionist newspapers as a balance of Cybernat. I've never seen Snazi used in any of the papers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Just don't mention Butcher's Apron and you'll be alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
That is ****ing pathetic and really boils my pish. Yoon is short for unionist, it's a bit rubbish but generally inoffensive. You want to take offence for the sake of it. Snazi is you basically saying that me and anyone else who is a SNP member or votes SNP is a right wing neo Nazi who is akin to those who during the 1930s and 40s murdered and persecuted millions of people. You actually tried to take some sort of moral high ground about this a few weeks ago when I asked you who was more far right between the SNP and EDL, Britain First etc. I agree that perhaps the admins should decide about what is acceptable but I'm sure that most folk would see exactly what you are trying to do. As I say ****ing patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
It’s quite similar to the Huns saying Hun is sectarian as some kind of balance to their horrible bigoted ways.
Yawn, your pathetic...Yoon is a derogatory term for Unionists and other term was a discrition for a former SNP leader. But it's ok in your book to use insults and swear at anyone who disagreesQuote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
What's derogatory about the term Yoon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
It was made specifically to look like loon, as in people had mental health issues who did not support independence during the last referendum campaign...Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
No insults, i'll make it even clearer for you. It is pathetic for anyone to use that term. Even more so to claim they are doing it as a comeback for Yoon. And to claim Yoon is offensive is, as has been said earlier akin to the rangers fans claiming the term hun is as bad as Taig, terrier etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Now you are 100% making stuff up to justify your disgraceful commentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
I thought a loon was someone from the North East?Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Are you saying they all have mental health issues?
You've maybe seen something on one of those Military boards you frequent, but Yoon has nothing to do with Mental health issues.
https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/ar...pieces-2463707
Do people get worked up about things like yoon/snazi/nat in the real world? Or is the kind of petty nonsense restricted to the virtual world?
I don't mind nat, short for nationalist. I wouldn't mind Yoon, short for unionist. I do take exception to snazi and would in the real world tooQuote:
Originally Posted by The Modfather
Goodwin would be proud that much of the recent content, proves his law
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Why would they need to stop the SNP to prevent another indyref if Johnson is going to refuse it anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Man
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Maybe only half of his law. The first part is right aboutbthteaf length but the thread is still going. It is a very interesting theory thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Radium
Gee I wonder what could be so upsetting about that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
That’s brilliant. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
At the risk of inviting the same criticism as on the Salmond thread, it has something for everyone in it...Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
I don't fancy our chances in any future war if ex members of our armed forces are now greetin' about playground names like "Yoon" :greengrin
Gotta hope that Bh never finds out what all young people abbreviate 'University' to. His head will literally explode.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
Whatever happened to "varsity"?Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Standards today.....
Surely any term that posters find offensive regardless of the subject has to moderated on? Threads have been closed down for a lot less on here and posts have been removed. Emotions run high on politics and independence. The majority on here support independence and it can be difficult for people who don’t have that view.
I'd be very disappointed if the admins view "yoon" and "snazi" as similarly offensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucky
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Originally Posted by One Day Soon
That's brilliant
:greengrin
So if I say that I find the term "Nat" offensive, as I'm an independence supporter, will that be moderated on?Quote:
Originally Posted by lucky
Where does it end?
Yoon is a shortened rhyming slang for Unionist.
I can recall during the last referendum campaign the yoons on here and elsewhere got upset when they were described as quislings. Those using the term stopped using it on these forums accepting the term had connotations that went beyond what was acceptable here. I dare say calling unionists quizlings is still rife in the pits of the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
Likewise I suspect the term you use is a common one that has surfaced from the sleazy depths of unionists chat rooms. Like quisling it has no place on what is predominantly a football forum frequented by younger impressionable souls.
Yoon on the other hand has and continues to be used in the mass print media and has also been mentioned, without rebuke, on the TV. If that changes then its use here, without whinging from unionists, can be reconsidered.
Your conflation between the words snazi and yoon is a disgraceful tactic by you to use a term which you know and use to be offensive.
I’m not offended by any of these names and try not to use them. They’re a bit silly. They say more about the people who use them IMO. Each to their own though, so crack on as far as I’m concerned.
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Either they don't trust Boris or they've no other policies to fill up an A4 sized leaflet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That's kinda where I am with this although, to be more accurate, I think the use of terms like "Yoon" and "Snazi" in a post makes me less likely to read it all and certainly less likely to give it the same consideration as I would absent those terms. It's playground stuff to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Well said, very childish and to the point that I actively scroll past certain posters. They dont merit my consideration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
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Originally Posted by Future17
How about we just agree to use the terms Unionist and Nationalist? Neither is pejorative, both are accurate and both allow posters not to be scrolled past.
We'd have to agree on definitions first. I am a nationalist in that I think Scotland should be a country. I'm not a nationalist in the sense that I think the Scottish nation or its people are better than any other nation or its people.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Mind you, I don't really care if I get called an actual Nazi, so whatevs really.
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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
I'm changing my mind, Unionist is too pejorative and has too many negative connotations. I'm politically self-IDing as pro-UK. :wink:
Does that rhyme with dook or howk? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Rhymes with stick 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
An independent Scotland can
🌊 Lead Europe in renewable energy
☮️Lead nuclear disarmament by leaving NATO
✊🏿 Lead on equality and workers' rights
Vote for the Scotland you want. Vote Green #GreenYes https://t.co/Ue70EHkaaN
I wonder what the derogatory term will be for someone who supports them?