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03-01-2021, 02:10 PM
lord bunberry

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Originally Posted by #2 Double Tap

If you watched all the games you surely cant be encouraged by our style of play. What about our summer signings.....how many years have we needed a central midfield, why have we still not got one?

They signed 3 players to play there this year and we still dont have a CM.

Jones28, yes it was you, and fair play to you, but if you had watched all those games how can you be encouraged by what you have seen?
Have we progressed from last year? I will give you the 4th position looks better, but in regards to playing style or game management? What about the managers best starting 11, do you think he knows what it is yet?

The best 11 thing does my head in. If we had a manager that rigidly stuck to his best 11 he’d be getting stick on here. Every game requires a different approach and sometimes that means different personnel, we can’t play the same way against the huns at ibrox as we’d play at home to Hamilton. Add in suspensions, injuries and players out of form and it’s just a sound byte. His best 11 could change throughout the season.
03-01-2021, 02:14 PM
Joe6-2

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Originally Posted by Since452

Tough schedule my arse

That is a bloody joke, should be in for extra training.
03-01-2021, 02:16 PM
MWHIBBIES

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Originally Posted by Joe6-2

That is a bloody joke, should be in for extra training.

Only if you want extra injuries.
03-01-2021, 02:22 PM
#2 Double Tap

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

The best 11 thing does my head in. If we had a manager that rigidly stuck to his best 11 he’d be getting stick on here. Every game requires a different approach and sometimes that means different personnel, we can’t play the same way against the huns at ibrox as we’d play at home to Hamilton. Add in suspensions, injuries and players out of form and it’s just a sound byte. His best 11 could change throughout the season.

You are right about the starting 11 changing, yet we all know every team has a best 11, maybe its tweaked for a couple of formations or the player role is altered inside a system but everyone has "their best team".

take our best right back, clearly Mcginn. yet who is the best left back? What about CM?

I appreciate what you are saying, but feel we still have too many questions with regard to this team.
03-01-2021, 02:23 PM
Key West

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

The best 11 thing does my head in. If we had a manager that rigidly stuck to his best 11 he’d be getting stick on here. Every game requires a different approach and sometimes that means different personnel, we can’t play the same way against the huns at ibrox as we’d play at home to Hamilton. Add in suspensions, injuries and players out of form and it’s just a sound byte. His best 11 could change throughout the season.

The levels of fitness now far exceed what they were in the past, I agree it is now imperative to have at least a strong 14 for a game with the aim to use utilise that number in every match, rotation now plays a bigger part than it previously did, you cannot get the maximum performance even from your best players in a tight fixture schedule, in fact I see it as a leveller.
03-01-2021, 02:29 PM
Allez Hibs

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Only if you want extra injuries.

How about the squad and coaches in East Mains reviewing the film of yesterday's match and Jack Ross using that time coaching the team while watching the film to improve them.
03-01-2021, 02:35 PM
Since90+2

The team to me look absolutely knackered, mentally and physically. Whether or not you think that's acceptable is not really important, they look like they need a rest and a few days away from their jobs.

Having a few days off is probably the best thing right now.
03-01-2021, 02:38 PM
Jones28

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Originally Posted by #2 Double Tap

If you watched all the games you surely cant be encouraged by our style of play. What about our summer signings.....how many years have we needed a central midfield, why have we still not got one?

They signed 3 players to play there this year and we still dont have a CM.

Jones28, yes it was you, and fair play to you, but if you had watched all those games how can you be encouraged by what you have seen?
Have we progressed from last year? I will give you the 4th position looks better, but in regards to playing style or game management? What about the managers best starting 11, do you think he knows what it is yet?

Well we were relegation candidates up until JR took over so yes, we have improved drastically. I don’t know by what measure we haven’t improved and I you and I are on totally different planets if you can’t see that.

How can the manage know the best starting 11 when we have to chop and change constantly? Injuries haven’t been bad but they have kept various players out for a week or two here and there. IMO the team that started against Rangers should have been the team that started against RC.

I really don’t see how 3 and 4 nil away from home to Motherwell and Accies respectively can have negatives. We were also unbeaten in 9 before the Rangers game I believe, it isn’t as bad as what is being made out. It’s proven by the league table. Style, well I give you some concessions there because the balance of the midfield isn’t quite right, we desperately need a McGinn type in there to tie things together.
03-01-2021, 02:39 PM
Alfred E Newman

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

The team to me look absolutely knackered, mentally and physically. Whether or not you think that's acceptable is not really important, they look like they need a rest and a few days away from their jobs.

Having a few days off is probably the best thing right now.

Why would they be knackered and in need of a break more than the Livingston or Ross County players?
03-01-2021, 02:43 PM
matty_f

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

The team to me look absolutely knackered, mentally and physically. Whether or not you think that's acceptable is not really important, they look like they need a rest and a few days away from their jobs.

Having a few days off is probably the best thing right now.

Think we’ve played something like 15 games since 31st Oct. That’s going to take it’s toll.

Not sure how that compares to other teams, i know Livi had a break last midweek as their game was cancelled.
03-01-2021, 02:46 PM
lord bunberry

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Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman

Why would they be knackered and in need of a break more than the Livingston or Ross County players?

Maybe our squad isn’t as fit as theirs or maybe they’ve managed to rotate their squads better. I don’t like it either, but the players looked in dire need of a break and having them back doing double sessions like some have suggested would be counterproductive. Maybe the coaching team can be at work looking at ways to improve the fitness of the squad.
03-01-2021, 02:47 PM
matty_f

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Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman

Why would they be knackered and in need of a break more than the Livingston or Ross County players?

Livi have played 12 games including yesterday since 31st Oct to our 15.

Ross Co have played 14 in that period.
03-01-2021, 02:53 PM
Since90+2

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Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman

Why would they be knackered and in need of a break more than the Livingston or Ross County players?

We don't know the individual circumstances of our players verses other squads.

We do however know one of our main players suffered a family tragedy a day or two before our biggest game of the season for instance and has played pretty much non stop since. Doidge has spoken previously about living alone and away from his family. I know a few of the players have had children fairly recently and the added stresses that brings even without covid. I'm sure there will be other things we aren't aware of.

I just think the players look like they need a break. People need to realise that they are human beings too and the past year has been very difficult for everyone, professional football players included.

The idea to get them back in to do double sessions as some sort of punishment would achieve nothing.
03-01-2021, 03:08 PM
#2 Double Tap

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Originally Posted by Jones28

Well we were relegation candidates up until JR took over so yes, we have improved drastically. I don’t know by what measure we haven’t improved and I you and I are on totally different planets if you can’t see that.

How can the manage know the best starting 11 when we have to chop and change constantly? Injuries haven’t been bad but they have kept various players out for a week or two here and there. IMO the team that started against Rangers should have been the team that started against RC.

I really don’t see how 3 and 4 nil away from home to Motherwell and Accies respectively can have negatives. We were also unbeaten in 9 before the Rangers game I believe, it isn’t as bad as what is being made out. It’s proven by the league table. Style, well I give you some concessions there because the balance of the midfield isn’t quite right, we desperately need a McGinn type in there to tie things together.

We can defo agree on the midfield! this is a good start. haha

In terms of improvement, I mean since JR took over, the signings he has made, our style, how we see out games.......these have not improved this year imo.

sure those lanarkshire wins are defo positives, just like the livi away game was and how we came back against the huns at ER........but what about the other games......early in the season that game at united we won 1-0, that was dreadful, the collapse in the last 10 mins against celtic, hamilton coming back at us at easter road- scoring 2 in the last 15mins although we did win.......motherwell 0-0 at home, we got bossed that day......the st johnston game the week after was almost as dire as the united game......

I suppose you are right when you say up and down like results, but it feels like there are more downs and the signs that we are headed in the right direction are few and far between.........
We could improve so much, but after watching us sign or loan 12 CMers over the last few years we still cant field 2 that most people feel confident about. That is a sad state of affairs.
03-01-2021, 03:13 PM
HibeeHibernian4

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Originally Posted by #2 Double Tap

I bet that if the liverpool fans were feeling generally bored or experiencing high levels of frustration on a near weekly basis for over a year they would sure look to move the manager on.........city fans have called for the head of guys who won them the league in the not so distant past and the arsenal reference, well they loved than uni emry right enough!

May I suggest that we're feeling bored because football is actually quite boring once you take away the social side of it?
03-01-2021, 03:22 PM
#2 Double Tap

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Originally Posted by HFCEighteen75

May I suggest that we're feeling bored because football is actually quite boring once you take away the social side of it?

You can suggest all you like, but thats not why its boring.....its boring because the play is so slow and predictable.......the players look unhappy, no one is enjoying themselves playing right now.

Check out mallan, his body lanuage and facial expressions look like alfredo morales's, remember when he first signed and was scoring all those goals, grinning from ear to ear, nisbet looks unhappy as well just now.......for a team that is not boring and doing really well (as some poster allude to) why do some of the players appear as if the have no confidence or drive?
03-01-2021, 04:06 PM
Callum_62

Frank Lampard is doing worse than Jack Ross

If anyone doenst think we are in a better place that when Ross walked in the door is surely on the wind up

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03-01-2021, 04:11 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by #2 Double Tap

You can suggest all you like, but thats not why its boring.....its boring because the play is so slow and predictable.......the players look unhappy, no one is enjoying themselves playing right now.

Check out mallan, his body lanuage and facial expressions look like alfredo morales's, remember when he first signed and was scoring all those goals, grinning from ear to ear, nisbet looks unhappy as well just now.......for a team that is not boring and doing really well (as some poster allude to) why do some of the players appear as if the have no confidence or drive?

Maybe they’re feeling a bit down because of the current situation? They have kids and families after all. They’re not paid to run around with a smile on their face for 90 minutes.
03-01-2021, 04:13 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

Frank Lampard is doing worse than Jack Ross

If anyone doenst think we are in a better place that when Ross walked in the door is surely on the wind up

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I don't think anyone has suggested that.

We could and should be in a better place though.
03-01-2021, 04:14 PM
bingo70

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

Frank Lampard is doing worse than Jack Ross

If anyone doenst think we are in a better place that when Ross walked in the door is surely on the wind up

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Don’t think anybody has said that have they?
03-01-2021, 04:15 PM
Callum_62

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Maybe they’re feeling a bit down because of the current situation? They have kids and families after all. They’re not paid to run around with a smile on their face for 90 minutes.

No but there paid to have us challenging for top 4 and into the later rounds of the cup

Oh.

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03-01-2021, 04:16 PM
Callum_62

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Originally Posted by bingo70

Don’t think anybody has said that have they?

I believe #2 double tap is suggesting that

4th place "looks better" but but but

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03-01-2021, 04:19 PM
Coco Bryce

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Maybe they’re feeling a bit down because of the current situation? They have kids and families after all. They’re not paid to run around with a smile on their face for 90 minutes.

Maybe they should look into a different profession then?

They really don't know how lucky they are.
03-01-2021, 04:21 PM
bingo70

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

I believe #2 double tap is suggesting that

4th place "looks better" but but but

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Fair enough.

Clearly we are miles better than we were under Heckingbottom but more still needed IMO.

I think people want excitement, not slow and steady progress.
03-01-2021, 04:22 PM
superfurryhibby

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Originally Posted by HFCEighteen75

May I suggest that we're feeling bored because football is actually quite boring once you take away the social side of it?

Tbf, I think I kind of agree. Watching football alone on the telly doesn’t do much for me in terms of whiling away an evening. Like many things, when you step back a bit from it, football is ultimately ridiculous.
03-01-2021, 04:25 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Coco Bryce

Maybe they should look into a different profession then?

They really don't know how lucky they are.

Are you saying they need to look happy? Smiling?

Souness snarled through games. I don’t think looking like they’ve just knocked back some MDMA at kickoff would do much for their ‘enforcer hard man’ status.

Also, the players Union might get involved. You can’t be getting sacked for looking miserable at work. There’d be nobody working in financial services otherwise.

I think the direction of the criticism has gone a bit bonkers to be honest.
03-01-2021, 04:28 PM
weecounty hibby

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Originally Posted by bingo70

Fair enough.

Clearly we are miles better than we were under Heckingbottom but more still needed IMO.

I think people want excitement, not slow and steady progress.

I would be happier with slow, steady, continual progress. We need to get away from the boom to bust trend that we have seen for decades. Let's get ourselves to a level that we SHOULD be at and stick there. We should be no lower than 5th and competing at the latter stages of the cups pretty much every year. How many times do we do ok for a couple of seasons and then spend the next few struggling?
03-01-2021, 04:30 PM
Coco Bryce

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Are you saying they need to look happy? Smiling?

Souness snarled through games. I don’t think looking like they’ve just knocked back some MDMA at kickoff would do much for their ‘enforcer hard man’ status.

Also, the players Union might get involved. You can’t be getting sacked for looking miserable at work. There’d be nobody working in financial services otherwise.

I think the direction of the criticism has gone a bit bonkers to be honest.

Fair point 😂

They should always have an urge to win though surely.
03-01-2021, 04:32 PM
BSEJVT

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Originally Posted by thebausburst

Ross is incapable of turning a game, his half time team talks have zero effect, if anything Hibs come out even worse in 2nd half of games

Substitute Ross for any Hibs Manager over the last 30 odd years and there is not one person on this board who would disagree, these are frequently aired complaints about every one of them (Ross included)

I am not convinced by Ross, but there are signs of a bandwagon forming here with all sorts of justifications for replacing him, just as surely as a similar bandwagon will form for his successor and the ones after that.

Given the choice between watching Ross look contemplatively at his team's shortcomings and the baboon like behaviour of Hughes & Lennon on the touchline, to name but two, I would choose Ross.

The time he resorts to the selection bingo of those two clowns is when it will be time for him to go.
03-01-2021, 04:41 PM
BSEJVT

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Jack Loss must go. .

In amongst a long-lasting litany of utter tripe and anti-Hibs posts from you over many years that is a new low even for you.

I don't believe for a minute you are a Jambo, but you certainly behave like one and exhibit the same lack of intellect and a total absence of self-awareness.

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