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15-01-2020, 01:20 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY

Makes you wonder why he got involved in that case.

That is the big, massive, elephant in the room that we’ve been waiting months to find out about.
15-01-2020, 01:22 PM
B.H.F.C

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Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg

Check the stats man.

We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

We’ve never enjoyed the advantage, we currently have, over competitors that we have now.

If we don’t get the finger out that advantage (number of season ticket holders) will start to reduce.
15-01-2020, 01:28 PM
Jones28

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Originally Posted by 90+2

That is the big, massive, elephant in the room that we’ve been waiting months to find out about.

Celtic and Rangers are out of his price range.

Aberdeen have wealthy backers.

Hearts are ****s.

Everyone else are diddy teams.

That’s leaves Hibs as the only opportunity to invest in a British side that could realistically qualify for Europe and attract a large enough support to be relatively self sufficient.
15-01-2020, 01:52 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Jones28

Celtic and Rangers are out of his price range.

Aberdeen have wealthy backers.

Hearts are ****s.

Everyone else are diddy teams.

That’s leaves Hibs as the only opportunity to invest in a British side that could realistically qualify for Europe and attract a large enough support to be relatively self sufficient.

It still makes little sense for an American based Peruvian to purchase a Scottish football club and model the club he’s bought on the likes of St Johnstone or Killie and punch above our weight while not investing in the playing side of the club at all. What’s happening with the indoor stadia investment at HTC also?
15-01-2020, 01:54 PM
Hibeesmad

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Originally Posted by 90+2

It still makes little sense for an American based Peruvian to purchase a Scottish football club and model the club he’s bought on the likes of St Johnstone or Killie and punch above our weight while not investing in the playing side of the club at all. What’s happening with the indoor stadia investment at HTC also?

What is the big deal about the indoor pitch being brought in? Is it going to be more effective than bringing in a couple of players better than we already have?
15-01-2020, 01:59 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Hibeesmad

What is the big deal about the indoor pitch being brought in? Is it going to be more effective than bringing in a couple of players better than we already have?

It’s a big deal because that’s what RGs money was going to be spent on we got told? I didn’t give an either or in relation to player recruitment.
15-01-2020, 02:00 PM
ElginHibbie

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Originally Posted by Hibeesmad

What is the big deal about the indoor pitch being brought in? Is it going to be more effective than bringing in a couple of players better than we already have?

Short term, no. Long term, probably.

And sure that chat when Ron came in was he was planning more for the long term
15-01-2020, 02:04 PM
Barman Stanton

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Originally Posted by Hibeesmad

What is the big deal about the indoor pitch being brought in? Is it going to be more effective than bringing in a couple of players better than we already have?

I might be wrong but I believe its needed for some kind of stadia certificate.

Anyway, its not something we should turn our nose up at. Iceland put a lot of their recent success down to the fact they invested in infrastructure. That being 30 all weather pitches, many of which were indoor. Being able to train on a full size pitch regardless of weather gives us an advantage.
15-01-2020, 02:41 PM
Jones28

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Originally Posted by 90+2

It still makes little sense for an American based Peruvian to purchase a Scottish football club and model the club he’s bought on the likes of St Johnstone or Killie and punch above our weight while not investing in the playing side of the club at all. What’s happening with the indoor stadia investment at HTC also?

The AGM will reveal these things I’m sure. Why make pessimism the starting point? He’s only been at the helm for 6 months.
15-01-2020, 04:04 PM
CapitalGreen

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Originally Posted by Greencore

Hibs have the highest priced season tickets in the league outside the OF and we are just to accept 5th place.

This is not true.
15-01-2020, 04:07 PM
ericd7

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Originally Posted by Jones28

The AGM will reveal these things I’m sure. Why make pessimism the starting point? He’s only been at the helm for 6 months.

A measured sane response? Not in my thread buster!
15-01-2020, 04:28 PM
Greencore

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

This is not true.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/ranked-the-cheapest-scottish-premiership-season-tickets-for-the-19-20-season-and-there-are-some-surprises-1-4937721/amp
15-01-2020, 04:30 PM
Jack Hackett

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Originally Posted by Jones28

Celtic and Rangers are out of his price range.

Aberdeen have wealthy backers.

Hearts are ****s.

Everyone else are diddy teams.

That’s leaves Hibs as the only opportunity to invest in a British side that could realistically qualify for Europe and attract a large enough support to be relatively self sufficient.

Get to the group stage of the Europa regularly and we would be more than relatively self sufficient. We've spent so long being careful about our finances, we seem to have lost the will to compete and are now happy to just survive... at least the board are. Whatever 'improvements' are planned, I sincerely hope they're not just cosmetic. Ron needs to step up to the plate, or what's the point of buying us?
15-01-2020, 04:33 PM
Danderhall Hibs

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

This is not true.

It depends on how you spin it. We don’t have a cheaper option - no matter where you sit it’s the same price, that places us higher in that table than some would like.
15-01-2020, 04:35 PM
ancient hibee

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Originally Posted by bingo70

I can’t speak for the person you’ve quoted but my answers would be the following:-

For us to be more ambitious in the transfer market. Both the last managers have spoken of having to move players on before bringing other players in. Considering how average a squad we have just now that’s not great to hear

Some plans from him as to how we’re going to challenge the teams above us, it doesn’t sound like it’s going to be by out spending them so how are we going to do it?

What his bigger picture plans are, infrastructure plans etc.....not asking for detailed plans but it’d be nice to know what he’s thinking.

An AGM and accounts that I believe are months overdue. I’m not a numbers man myself however I think the lack of transparency is starting to be a bit of a concern.

I know you say it’s only 6 months but that’s quite a long time in football. Presumably he had some plans before finalising the deal as well so you’d assume plans have been getting made for 6-9 months now?

The accounts cover the period before Ron took over so are the last of the Farmer/Petrie time. Therefore nothing to worry about
15-01-2020, 04:38 PM
CapitalGreen

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Originally Posted by Greencore

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/ranked-the-cheapest-scottish-premiership-season-tickets-for-the-19-20-season-and-there-are-some-surprises-1-4937721/amp

Did you read the article or just copy and paste from Google search results? That article is based on the cheapest season tickets available at each club. Because Hibs have flat pricing they appear higher up the list, however other teams in the league have more expensive season tickets. It doesn’t compare apples with apples.

Season ticket beside the dugouts at Easter Road = £405
Season ticket beside the dugouts at Pittodrie = £434
Season ticket beside the dugouts at Tynie = £500
15-01-2020, 05:11 PM
Hibeesmad

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Originally Posted by Barman Stanton

I might be wrong but I believe its needed for some kind of stadia certificate.

Anyway, its not something we should turn our nose up at. Iceland put a lot of their recent success down to the fact they invested in infrastructure. That being 30 all weather pitches, many of which were indoor. Being able to train on a full size pitch regardless of weather gives us an advantage.

Not against an indoor pitch if it has no effect on the transfer budget. Would personally just rather have good quality players to get us into European football rather than settle for 6th place so the players can train indoors when its raining.
15-01-2020, 05:30 PM
Brightside

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Originally Posted by Greencore

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/ranked-the-cheapest-scottish-premiership-season-tickets-for-the-19-20-season-and-there-are-some-surprises-1-4937721/amp

A decent hearts ST is much more than hibs.
15-01-2020, 05:31 PM
Brightside

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Originally Posted by Hibeesmad

Not against an indoor pitch if it has no effect on the transfer budget. Would personally just rather have good quality players to get us into European football rather than settle for 6th place so the players can train indoors when its raining.

The indoor pitch is a project brave requirement.
15-01-2020, 05:32 PM
blackpoolhibs

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Originally Posted by underscore

A decent hearts ST is much more than hibs.

There's no such thing.:confused:
15-01-2020, 05:35 PM
Brightside

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

There's no such thing.:confused:

Well yes. Point. Well. Made. 😂
15-01-2020, 05:43 PM
Keith_M

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Originally Posted by Greencore

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/ranked-the-cheapest-scottish-premiership-season-tickets-for-the-19-20-season-and-there-are-some-surprises-1-4937721/amp

Having the highest minimum price is not the same as having the highest price.
15-01-2020, 06:02 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Jones28

The AGM will reveal these things I’m sure. Why make pessimism the starting point? He’s only been at the helm for 6 months.

More than six months and that’s more than long enough to let us know wtf is going to happen.

It’s not realism also. Unless we can get an answer as to why he bought us speculation will continue. It’s not as if anything positive has happened since we got bought over.
15-01-2020, 06:07 PM
Wakeyhibee

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Originally Posted by Greencore

Have Aberdeen spent millions this season?

Hibs have the highest priced season tickets in the league outside the OF and we are just to accept 5th place.

Definitely not. I just dont see him spending extra millions a season just to come 3rd (which isn't guaranteed). I'm hoping he's looking to grow the club long term so it can attract extra money, that means getting the footballing side doing better with the budget it's got.
15-01-2020, 06:11 PM
hibeerealist

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

I wasnt expecting anything. We were told we should be excited and they were looking forward to telling us more in the coming weeks and months. We have currently been told nothing more. We were then told january so we will wait and see what happens in the remaining 2 weeks. I dont see why people being curious and concerned is such a problem though when theres so many more questions than answers still.

Well put, I am sure there are many like minded Hibbys nodding in agreement as I am! :agree:
15-01-2020, 06:14 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Wakeyhibee

Definitely not. I just dont see him spending extra millions a season just to come 3rd (which isn't guaranteed). I'm hoping he's looking to grow the club long term so it can attract extra money, that means getting the footballing side doing better with the budget it's got.

Well it’s not really worked so far.

Again, what’s the point in him buying us just to have a ever steady possibly growing football club in Scotland? Seems a complete waste of time.
15-01-2020, 06:15 PM
Greencore

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Originally Posted by Wakeyhibee

Definitely not. I just dont see him spending extra millions a season just to come 3rd (which isn't guaranteed). I'm hoping he's looking to grow the club long term so it can attract extra money, that means getting the footballing side doing better with the budget it's got.

Why wouldn't he spend a few bob to get into Europe and have the fan base grow?
15-01-2020, 06:21 PM
hibeerealist

I forgot to add, when in January does Ron intend putting his ideas/plans out there?

It is now half way through the month and no date for any announcement has been made, 14/15 days to go yes however if Ron is organised in what he is doing his diary will have a day/date in it by now I would bet.
15-01-2020, 06:23 PM
Nicho87

It’s all about the community and match day experience for the fan.
15-01-2020, 06:32 PM
Lago

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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY

Makes you wonder why he got involved in that case.

Certainly a bit of a puzzle to me.

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