They can probably afford it due to FoH contributions.Quote:
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It’s pleasing that contributions will be going towards their massive wages.
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They can probably afford it due to FoH contributions.Quote:
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It’s pleasing that contributions will be going towards their massive wages.
Hypocrites.Quote:
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Agree but assume all parties would need to agree to publication of anything about arbitration.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Leak it. , not as if Hertz not done enough leaking latelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Doncaster said on Saturday's Sportsound he'd have no problem with everything being made public. Why would Hearts and Partick not want the Judgement, or any part of it for that matter, withheld from the other clubs? After saying they wanted it all in public they are now being very hypocritical. Have they got something to hide? Maybe there's something in there about the donation from James Anderson and initially there were strings attached to it. Maybe there's something in amongst the evidence about Hearts, Rangers and Inverness plotting to get the league null & voided. It'd be great if the info was released as I'd like to see how Budge came up with the £8m figure.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
They do - nothing has been released yet, it needs the consent of all parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
So the paper headline is wrong or both moaning that spfl would be happy for publication. If so they obviously got humiliated in the judgement. More faces than the town clock that mob.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
They're unhappy that the SPFL and the three clubs that had to defend themselves against Hearts and Partick's court action, have all given permission for publication of the judgement.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Hearts, having wanted it all played out in public, are not happy at this, because the SPFL didn't want the dirty washing done in public in court.
Hearts and Partick continue to miss the point of that choice, and again show themselves to be petty, mindless, hypocrites.
The fact that Hearts comprehensively lost the arbitration case made it clear that Budge has been wrong in every aspect since day one. She refused to abide by the rules, chose to break another rule in taking the matter to court, attacked fellow member clubs and spent months libelling SPFL board members and other directors. Bringing the game into disrepute and causing all sorts of problems for clubs that they certainly didn't need. The details of the arbitration judgment would just make all this even clearer.
UndoubtedlyQuote:
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Will be interesting to see if Tom English is calling for the info to be released. Probably won't be but would've if it'd been Hearts and Partick wanting details released and Doncaster wanting it kept confidential.
The fact that they've made a fuss about this will now highlight that it's they who do not want the judgment published, whereas if they'd said nothing then it wouldn't have been published and would have been forgotten about. So, once again they shoot themselves in the foot. If it was a friend behaving like that I'd seriously be wondering if they were having issues with their mental health or if they were abusing substances.Quote:
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Theirs is the worst relegation everQuote:
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Correction: the best relegation ever witnessed.Quote:
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You'd really think Mrs doctor Budge and mini Mrs doctor Budge over at Partick would want it all out in the open to be consistent and to continue with the exposure of their injustice agenda.
First thing they've not rushed to go public with and first thing that the friendly media haven't leaked or had leaked.....
Wonder why.
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Got to be some juicy criticism of Hearts and Partick in the full judgement, which those two want blocked. Maybe the Arbitration team said Budge is a whinging numbskull who is not fit to run a bath. Can understand if she wouldn't want that made public.Quote:
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^^This.Quote:
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*Always wanted to do that 🙂
Or details of Patrick’s bullying of other clubs ganging up with Inverness will come out if it was used as evidence against them by the spfl?Quote:
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Remember the Saturday statement about something they couldn't talk about?Quote:
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Ah yes, the thing they keep in the wardrobe, or was it under the bed?Quote:
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I really can't remember.[emoji6]
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Hardly surprising that the side which won wants everything made public and the side that lost wants it all kept quiet.
Almost as unsurprising as the outcome of the arbitration, given the weakness of Hearts case.
I think it's because the first sentence of the judgement says that the SPFL followed their own rules and that they were not at fault. Then there's 62 pages of the panel saying ha ha ha ha ha ha!
I reckon the flumps at Flump HQ just don't want everyone to see what a flump they've made of themselves.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Eyrie
The irony will be that Jambos thought a legal process would expose SPFL “corruption”, but will actually be much more embarrassing for them.
If the Scottish "journalists" were any good at their jobs they'd be putting pressure on Hearts to agree to the details being released, by questioning why they've gone from wanting it all to be conducted in public to now wanting it to be kept under wraps.Quote:
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I’d imagine Tom English will be all over this one - he’s been looking for the “smoking gun” for months - hearts releasing these papers will give him all the info he needs.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Imagine if, after so this time, the smoking gun was in Hearts’ hands and the SPFL stitched them up. :faf:
What are you hiding, Jambos??
Having listened to Saturday’s Sportsound podcast and the interview with Neil Doncaster I thought he came across very well and answered all the questions informatively and with clarity. For me, the most telling part was when ND was asked by RG about his contingency plan had the arbitration panel ruled against the SPFL; he said there wasn’t one...because he knew they had acted legally and correctly, within the rules of the association and that it was what the members had voted for.
It was clear from what ND said that no one was ever going to find in favour of Hearts and Partick. There was no smoking gun, no coercion, no threats, no shambles, just people trying to steer a path through a crisis as well as they possibly could. Tom English, Hearts and Partick should all hang their heads in shame and apologise for the completely unwarranted attacks on ND and the SPFL.
The other point was his answer to the endless complaint about the lack of a sponsor. ND informed us that he had almost agreed a contract with a sponsor but the pandemic and events overtook them and the sponsor had to back out almost on the eve of the deal being agreed. That is totally understandable under the circumstances as business prospects are completely unpredictable. It is a long way from being a shambles.
I think I can safely say that it is unlikely there will be an apology from TE or Hearts and probably no attempt to calm down the bitterness and bile they have stirred up. I won’t put words in TE’s mouth but I suspect that I know what his answer would be if he was challenged on his absurd accusations over the months. I fear it won’t be to say that he has realised how wrong he has been to malign Scottish football and every other club but the ones he chose to defend. I don’t recall him saying that Hibs should take anyone to court or arbitration for the league placing and the money we lost.
I am personally sick of the Hearts led narrative but I hope that the SFA rule wisely; give them a token fine along with a suspended sentence if at all possible. I think that would be for the best. Just shutting them up for three seasons would be a blessing.
If anything, it was probably Hearts who cost the SPFL its sponsor.
Great post :aok: but you missed the Rangers role in this.Quote:
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Leveins Battalion Leveins Battalion
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If signing players like Elliot Frear is the level of our ambition even in the Championship than I am afraid Robbie is going to struggle to win over the doubters.(No idea if its even true btw)just hypothetically.
This type of signing reminds me of Hibs in 2012,older,journeymen,with no sell on value and ultimately only cost the club in wages.
Now I get when JJ was here at 1st he plugged gaps with Alan Lawrence,Darren Beckford etc but we have to actively be going for the best young Scottish players.The Ali McCanns,Shanklands,Ross Stewart's etc.We need to start spending on players.
Until we get back to this type of young,ambitious players on an upward trajectory then we are going to continue on this downward spiral that seem bottomless just now imo.
Rather than sign 3 average squad fillers I'd rather we signed 1 quality midfielder/winger.
Then build a team over 2/3 seasons.
I agree with him. It’s what we should (and are to an extent) do.Quote:
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I'd agree with him more if they hadn't signed Glen Wheelan last seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
There might very well be some juicy information to come to light in an Arbitration publication. However I think that the Hearts/Partick objection is nothing more than an infantile and perverse knee jerk reaction of disagreeing with anything the SFA/SPFL say or do. If the Arbitration people were still insisting it stay unpublished the bairns would still be screaming for it’s release.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
What these ****ing morons forget is that all of these players cost money, would expect decent wages as well. They already have Berra, Naismith, Boyce etc on ridiculous salaries and they won't move anywhere else to drop money. Same old same old from the tarts for the last 40 years, spend spend spend and someone else will eventually pick up the billQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
I think you've nailed it. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
I can see where hearts are coming from. The spfl havecagreed to release the full
Judgement but not the evidence. It’s the evidence part they are unhappy about and I assume they are ok with the judgement also.
The 'evidence' contained commercially sensitive information which the SPFL didn't want in the public domain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skol
The judgement will be based on principles as opposed to financial nuts & bolts. There's no comparison IMO.
The SPFL dont want confidential or commercially sensitive information in the public domain - which is fair enough, imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skol
Remember that Hearts, Partick, Dundee Utd, Cove and Raith can all see the full detail already so its hardly a state secret.
Hearts and Partick are probably getting slammed by the judgement, and are using this "we want the full evidence and detail or nothing" as a device to ensure it doesnt see the light of day.
I think the contents will be pretty boring - showing the SPFL stuck to procedure and the rules. If its laid out in plain language that this is the case it doesn't help the Jambos seige mentality version that everything is corrupt.Quote:
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The chat here though had been that heArts are objecting to this being made public. I don’t believe that’s what they are doing. They are unhappy that everything isn’t made public.
I agree there is probably commercially sensitive stuff in there but there must be something that hearts believe vindicates part of their case.
The three judges didn’t think there was anything in there to vindicate the hearts case. That is what matters and should be more than enough for the nae sayers to give up on the conspiracy theories and accept they were wrong.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Skol
There is nothing that vindicates their case, independent arbitration looked at the evidence and found 100% for the SPFL.
If there was anything to vindicate Hearts and Partick, then it would have emerged in the judgement - i.e. if there had been rules bent by the SPFL there might have been a wee bit of compensation sent their way.............they got hee haw, because their case was nonsense.
Hearts simply cant allow themselves to say "hands up, we were ********s" and this is just more of the bunker mentality crap pandering to the fools on kickback.
Where are you reading this?Quote:
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However, I believe the promoted three have the right not to have their wage budgets and player salaries released to the public domain.
Except there are some who believe that the 3 "judges" were at it too.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Juniper Greens
Its exactly the kind of pish that kickback would find "compelling"......................
Incredible, eh? How do you get through a day thinking like that?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
You’re right of course. There are some people that will never see beyond the nose on their face.Quote:
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I think that's incredibly short-sighted.Quote:
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There must be, aye.Quote:
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The Daily Record article said that Hearts were slating the spfl for only agreeing to release the judgement. As far as we know Hearts have not objected to that, but they want everything disclosed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juniper Greens
Posters on this thread have been saying Hearts are objecting ti the release
I 100% agree that commercially sensitive information should not be shared. However there must be a reason Hearts want everything out there. They surely wouldn't raise an objection just for the sake of it. Wait, maybe they would.
My point is though that its the partial release that Hearts are unhappy about
I just nose that this thread is about to go downhill. Or maybe 'snot.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
I stand corrected, the article today in the DR appears to have been updated from last nights version and does state Hearts and Partick have blocked anythung being published.
That being the case, it puts a different light on things and I suspect now they dont want their fans to see the reality of the situation.
I heard it’s photos of the arbitration panel watching a rerun of the 2016 cup run instead of deliberating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skol
Wasn't it something to do with them all putting their black caps on at the beginning of proceedings rather than the end?Quote:
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I think it's disgusting that some people make fun of a serious disability!
It's all very well you people joking about it but anybody that supports Hearts deserves our sympathy, not inappropriate so-called jokes.
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Hearts got relegated to the Championship hahahaha
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Originally Posted by Keith_M
I feel sorry for any young child who has been indoctrinated into following those ugly turnips. As for the adults though... you picked the wrong team.
This doesn’t stop being funny 😂, only made funnier by the fact rodders is about to oil them up and make them squeal like a pig! Haha hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Skol is a V popular lager in Brazil. The locals seem tae love it but it’s weaker than weak & nae good IMO. Much like yer hertz.Quote:
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I really hope by the time October comes we're firing on all cylinders and they're just thawing off from cold storage. I want them destroyed.
Doncaster is quoted on the Sportsound thread as saying in the interview with Richard Gordon that the SPFL is happy to have all the documents lodged with arbitration panel released to the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skol
I can confirm this on listening to the podcast. Also, Gordon gets mixed up with the SFA hearing this week which he thinks will decide on the costs for arbitration. He implies the SPFL/clubs might have to pick up the costs and this is a down side to defending themselves! Neil D really sorted him out and Gordon seemed deflated. Sportsound is truly awful.
I was in a trendy style bar in Sydney once and they had Tennents Super for sale as a premium lager.Quote:
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Finally, some positive news for Hearts...
Bobby Burns has apparently gone away.
That must be a big relief.
Correct , the Spfl should ask Lord Clark if they can just publish itQuote:
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Was it rife in the squad?Quote:
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I heard he caused friction in the dressing room.Quote:
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And this is the nation that taught me that Fosters is Skippy's p*as.Quote:
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Can’t ever remember Fosters being sold anywhere when I was there.Quote:
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I cant either. But when I asked about buying it that's when I was told what they called it.Quote:
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Same trick perpetrated here as the UK was somehow convinced that Stella and K1664 were ‘premium’ products.
To be honest I’ll be happy with a dodgy 1-0 win...Quote:
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Originally Posted by Crazyhorse
Me anaw.
Anybody that thinks we'll breeze through this should be reminded that Hearts won four league games last season, and half of those were against Hibs.
me too. Preferably with a ridiculously dodgy penalty decision, an off side goal, or a shot off the underside of the bar that never actually crosses the line.Quote:
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Havent't been on Brokeback since last week.
I am well surprised that there is another half dozen pages explaining why they are not bother that the big teams in the big league are playing.
They probably wanted to be the big team in the championship all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Steve
If only they'd admitted it earlier, I'm pretty sure Mrs doctor Budge could easily have got them relegated without spending all that money.
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An English girl in the RAF introduced me to Bobby Burns years ago. Rotten company it has to be said.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Personal favourite from yesterday on keechback was a poster bemoaning the fact that we “always seem to find strikers that score goals” 😃😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Steve
Same as Hearts joint second top league scorers for last season in one game.2 more goals and we pass their top scorer "chunky" Halkett.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs
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And they always find good defensive players. Their point being?Quote:
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My favourite was one peanut brain saying Nisbet's hat trick didn't count as one of the goals was a penalty that should never have been given 😯🤣🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs
Jesus wept, not a brain cell between them over there
I went to a fancy dress party and a guy turned up totally naked with just a bit of sandpaper on his cock l asked who did you come as Dick EmeryQuote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Someone who must be a Hibs fan went on a fantastic fishing trip over on divisionback with a thread asking if they will regret not hiring Jack Ross and getting Nisbet signed.
Through the rage tweets claiming no you can sense the tears of regret.
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Originally Posted by Keith_M
I know they had a hugely bloated squad but they have shipped out a load of players. Belts being tightened down gorgie way?
Comparing Jack Ross to Ted Bundy... forgetting they hired Graham rix and Craig Thomson.
Cannot have this thread slipping off the front page, c'mon guys, must be something newsworthy to slag them off:thumbsup:
Just had a wee look on their Betfred thread - apparently they are going to wallop every team by about five goals since none of them have played in months.
Can someone please remind me what happened Hearts last played a game, I seem to have forgotten ;)
All just part of the false narrative that Ross isn't any good. Stendel was a good appointment despite the fact they got worse under him. Still, Neilson is the right man despite the fact they hounded him out years ago.Quote:
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Best clip from JKB tonight :
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Yip, one game in Scotland tonight - cue at least 3 pages on Brokeback about how they don`t care about the SPFL - they have a funny way of showing it lol
They must be absolutely gutted. I mean sick as anything. I mean trying to convince themselves they don’t care but they will be almost spewing.
Karma ya tubes 💚😁😁
That expattit must be an undercover Hibby!!Quote:
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They released Josh Doig. That do?Quote:
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Yes , and here is another classic :Quote:
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Yes, yes you did you useless numpties
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ExPat has appeared on screen shots here a few times now.Quote:
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Those absolute deluded bell ends don’t have a clue do they.
If they did, they wouldn't be Jambos.Quote:
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A lucky 4-1 win away to Livingston. :faf:Quote:
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reminds me of the time a couple of years ago that I read on there that we had “scraped past” Runavik in Europe... by seven clear goals!Quote:
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