Did he used to work with Dr Cameron all those years ago?Quote:
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Did he used to work with Dr Cameron all those years ago?Quote:
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Down South, the Lying Tories are choosing another new leader. Jenrick looks to be favourite, with Badenoch a close second.
They are all bat**** crazy. Although one adviser seems to be quite perceptive:
https://bylinetimes.com/2024/09/30/c...-young-people/Quote:
However, former Conservative adviser Rachel Woolf warned the panel not to underestimate the scale of dislike for the party, saying that, “We cannot for one second convince ourselves that we’re not loathed. We are, and we haven’t done any of the necessary steps [to turn things around]”
Labour keeps going the way they are and it won’t matter what they are, just what they are not.Quote:
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Tell me once again that the New Lying Tory party is not fascist.
This video from Jenrick (current favourite for new Lying Tory leader) is more bat**** crazy stuff
https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1840659469727916246
If you dont believe me, perhaps listen to former Tory Attorney General Dominic Grieve:
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This is one of the most astonishing videos I have ever seen posted by a Conservative MP, let alone a candidate for the leadership. Most of it is twaddle, a series of promises of change that leaving the ECHR will do nothing to take forward.
https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1840704607867089026
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Conservative fringe meeting on immigration discussing how to persuade women to "breed for Britain" in order to "grow more" social care workers, one day after Kemi Badenoch's comments about "excessive" maternity pay.
Liz Truss at the Lying Tory Conference:
- Liz Truss tells Conservative party conference that she is a "huge fan" of Argentina's far right leader Javia Milei. Says if Milei were standing for Tory leader "I would back him in a shot"
- I would have done better than Rishi Sunak at the general election and could even have won if I'd stayed as leader, says Liz Truss
- Liz Truss now calling for universities and other organisations to be "defunded" if they're "antithetical to conservative values"
- Asked to say something that will cheer up the audience, Liz Truss replies that "Donald Trump might win". Big round of applause from the audience
- Liz Truss says she agrees with Kemi Badenoch that some cultures are "less valid" than others, saying that Britain is based on "Judeo Christian values and that should prevail". Adds that she thinks the Star of David should be placed at entry points to the UK
- Theresa May "is part of the establishment" unlike me, says former Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury, Liz Truss
- Liz Truss says people's mortgages only went up after her mini-budget because of the Bank of England, not because of anything she said, or did. Blames "the media" for not reporting she wasn't to blame.
- "Conservatives won't succeed until we get rid of the Office for Budget Responsibility," says Liz Truss
Apparently got one of the largest audiences. I'm sure there is an appetite in a section of the tories for a Trump like nutterQuote:
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Yes. His name is Boris Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Sounds like the Nazi Lebensborn project introduced by Himmler in 1935.Quote:
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We've had one, however he spoke with a public school accent so not many people noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
JinxQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
You'd think any party would be too embarrassed to put such an idiot on a conference podium.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Then you remember it's the torys.
We obviously need more kids born but the only way you get that is with houses and reasonable priced childcare and maternity pay, we've none of the above. Badendock want growth but no immigrants or encouraging childbirth. With a aging nation that's just mentalQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Spare a thought for Jonathan Gullis who after years of bigotry is finding it hard to get a job post election defeat
https://x.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1840707181202579504
@PoliticsJOE_UK
"I think the days when being an ex-mp was something that was wanted or desired are no longer."
Former Tory MP Jonathan Gullis says he has not been able to get a job since losing his seat from Parliament
Kemi Badenoch:
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"Islamist terrorism is something that should never be appeased," she said."Israel is at the frontline, and it is surrounded by a lot of enemies.
"I think what they are doing is extraordinary.
People said getting the leader of Hezbollah couldn't be done, people ask Israel to do things like be more targeted so they don't harm civilians.
"They did that amazing thing with the pagers and when they did that they were criticised for it.
"They are always criticised, and I am very sympathetic to the Israeli argument."
She later added that "we must not forget the Palestinian people who are not Hamas".
They've been in power for well over two months, why haven't Labour done anything about the appalling job prospects for baboons yet? :grr:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
:greengrin:greengrinQuote:
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYu8NMrW...pg&name=medium
He's goosed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Imagine having to rely on your natural skills and ability alone to earn a living.
Patronage, coat tailing others and spouting populist crap only gets certain types so far.
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He'll get a job with the Telegraph, or the Spectator, or some other loony right wing mouthpiece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
He's useful to the right wing bigots.
Reform maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
[emoji106]Like I said, imagine having to rely on his natural talent aloneQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
Knew it was them all along.[emoji35]
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Doris Soprano calling the shots of uk media and industry capeesh. Absolute fruit loop of a womanQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Jenrick's crazy video and his determination to leave the ECHR
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Originally Posted by Dominic Grieve
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
And here's me thinking it was trussenomics and Kwakers Kwarteng that crashed the economy and created the mess that seen them sacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Trump level delusion from Truss. Someone should have asked her why she took the job as PM if she didn’t think that role was the leader of country
Listening to LBC, Betfair having a segment on the Presidential Race and they've done a UK poll.
The UK would vote for Harris by 60%, but support for Trump has doubled since the last election!
WTF?
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Robert Jenrick:
"I'm for finishing the job we started with Brexit"
"And restoring to our people and parliament it's sovereignty"
"Under my leadership the new Conservative party will stand for a new Great Reform Act"
"One that leaves the ECHR.. Repeals Tony Blair's Human Rights Act.. And writes a British bill of rights"
"That is the only way we get the foreign terrorists, the criminals, off our streets and out of our country"
:na na:
Very Trump likeQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
It's all just wishy washy drivel. Nothing substantial to take the country forward other nationalistic tub thumping.
His face when being drilled on who gave him £75,000* for his campaign showed him to be nothing other than another conman.
*a faceless shell company, which does nothing, has no employees and has debts of £300,000
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....emain-13225253
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The Torygraph
https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/e...1/16/1f534.png EXCLUSIVE: Former PM Boris Johnson reveals in his memoir that his security team found the bug when the Israeli prime minister visited him in 2017
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...qQ&oe=6704C113
Is that espionage or just kinkyness?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Johnson will say anything to make a quid or just to make himself sound interesting. He was invading Holland last week. He is a Walter Mitty character who we just happened to have made PM.
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Originally Posted by grunt
A self serving sleazy ****bag
All about him. Like most narcissists.Quote:
Originally Posted by McD
Hopefully reflecting on how the families feel who needlessly lost loved ones on his watch at the same time? Perhaps not.
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Did he explain in his book when Foreign secretary he went without his security to a mansion of an ex kgb in Italy
He was in no condition to remember it, so how could he write about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Looks like the morning after the time Billy Bunter went to a National Lampoons Animal House Party and sunk a whole bottle of Absinthe for breakfast.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-perugia-party
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You’ve got to think that there must be come compromising videos from these parties being held over his head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Shooting fish in a barrel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
If you look at what he and fellow Nasties were actually doing when people were dying and the rest of us were locking down who knows what might have happened there, and elsewhere.
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Farage caught out in another lie. Zero consequences.
https://x.com/implausibleblog/status...42847912284318
But, I suspect absolutely no members of the government she was part of should suffer similar fates in any way, even where they were responsible for departments these poor civil servants worked for? Or indeed any of the rest of their dodgy conduct during Covid crises?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Toxic individual, kind of hope she wins as probably incapable of getting much more support than the original hard core nutters the Nasty party right wing have left.
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Imagine being a civil servant and having to implement the crazy policies those nutcases have come up with over the last years, especially those who work for the FCDO in EU countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Johnson criticises Starmer for being greedy and corrupt.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-over-freebies
****.
Bozo has no filter/self awareness.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
He was very fond of a "donation" himself. Usually more substantial and not remotely relatable to his role as a minister/PM. £23k to help pay for his wedding being an example.
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Him or Farage for Tory party leader by 2029 I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
****s.
There's every chance, Bozo will flip to follow whatever trend gets him where he wants to be and as the Nasties lurch further right in a desperate attempt to respond to Reform some sort of merger seems inevitable.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Cleverly knocked out of the race despite leading yesterday’s vote.
He was the least nutjobby of the three I’d say. Not a ringing endorsement, I know.
Enoch Powell was bad enough. A Bad Enoch duznae bare thinking about.
Very surprised with that, Badendock will win with the members. Another of the tories child of immigrants who want to treat immigrants abhorrently. Horrendous womanQuote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Virtually every commentator had Cleverly as a certainty to get to the final two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
The theory seems to be that Cleverly supporters voted tactically for Jenrick (to eliminate Badenoch). Whether it was coordinated or not is another question, but either way it backfired.
Up there with Andy Burnham lending votes to Corbyn so that he could run in 2015. These idiots deserve their fate.Quote:
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Cleverly was never winning the members' vote anyway, not nearly bat**** enough. Wonder how much racial dogwhistling we might hear from Jenrick now it's one on one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He's going down the Ronald Dump route. So lots.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Very positive for non Nasty party supporters as surely both are unelectable even if they will be popular with the hard right who are a decreasing group as far as the nasties are concerned?Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Both could well end up in an alliance with a Farageist monstrosity in an attempt to get the actual power they crave but wee Nige could hold the future of the Nasties in his hands at the next election
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Cleverly would have beat Jenrick easy if polls of Conservative members were to believed, Badendock also polls well ahead of Jenrick.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
I'm not sure if Badendock lasts 5 years. She has a high ceiling with the Tories but a low floor as is seen as weird by many Tories who are polled
She apparently despises Farage and has been scathing of him and reform in the press. The problem I'd they don't defeat Labour unless each other step aside in seats. Jenrick looks and sounds like he'd work with anyone that would have himQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Both will quickly flip to do whatever gets them to where they want to be this is about power and self aggrandisement and little else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
If an alliance with satan to lead the right was required that's where they'll be
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Yes, he's in the running now I understand.Quote:
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Using his Arch-Angel Lucifer handle - popular with the over 79 and a halfs.
Probably kinder and more progressive than most of the seeyounexttuesdays we've had recently.
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[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
At the end of the day given the majority given to Labour by a big cross section of the electorate, which is theirs to blow, this weird wee election is the classic two bald people fighting over a comb.
A very small group of people who pay to be members of a dying party will now pick from a choice of the only two that are on offer.
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Weirdos arguing with weirdos trying to please the weirdo demograph. Best left to it I suppose.
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[Pinched from elsewhere]
Now that the Tory leadership battle is down to the final two, members get to choose between the evil of two lessers.
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The electoral system that gave us Truss and Sunak with no chance to actually vote for them looks like delivering another by - product of Nasty party infighting for our short term amusement.
Looks like james not so Cleverly supporters have accidentally knocked him out . Some of his supporters have voted for jenrick thinking he would have a better chance against jenrick . Result is not so Cleverly might actually have been the "moderate" who topped the earlier poll but is out because of how his own supporters used their closed voting system.
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Warning: Rude word. (Entirely justified, IMO)
https://x.com/jasemonkey/status/1844410520998383861
Unfortunately it’s possibly not as straight forward as this. If Labour implode, which they are always more than capable of, then the Tory’s win regardless of their leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Starmer didn’t win a landslide because very many people particularly thought he was good, but rather because the Tory’s had imploded. The same can just as easily happen the opposite direction at the next execution.
Reform are the big variable in this of course if they increase their vote share.
Even if Labour don't implode, all the Tories need to do to win the next election is lift the phone to Farage and persuade him to join them. Tories and Reform combined will waltz a 2029 election unless Starmer's government turns out to be very special indeed, and so far there's not too much sign of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
I can entirely see how both posts above have credibility.
When the Farageists absorb the swivel eyed loons that are left in the remnants of the Nasty party there will never be a better time to divide mainland britain, the "south" and everywhere else might take care of England electorally?
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Was travelling through London today.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Going down the escamalater at King's Cross into the Underground there's a huge animated advertising screen looming over people as they descend.....figure of Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson dissolves into focus...promo for his book.
[Tube Voice shouts/ie Me]
"MIND THE TWAT"
70% of peeps laughed...not bad return
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:greengrinQuote:
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https://www.threads.net/@fionasianchalmers/post/DA-4TTPOShA?xmt=AQGz1jr8yQLB9Q4K69QbUtQ9XMnhDgllhy34s R360_ATswQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Badenoch now coming across as a complete **** about autism as well.
She's an impressively unlikeable person, much like Braverman and Patel.
Will be marvellous to see how she actually delivers on all this knee jerk populist stuff she is saying to win not an election but popularity amongst a small group of minority right wing MP's none of whom were brave enough or credible enough to step up themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
If she gets over the line and reality sets in she will be hung out to dry as yet another victim of the Nasty parties internal battles which always come first.
Same will apply to Jenrick, it would be a great time to be a socialist if we had a socialist government with a big majority.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...ign_type=owned
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The wife of a Conservative councillor has been jailed for 31 months after calling for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire.
But yeah, Taylor Swift tickets ...
And remember - we paid for this.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...box=1729487113
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The in-flight catering for James Cleverly’s one-day round trip to Rwanda last December, while he was home secretary, cost £655 a head. Cleverly spent £165,561 chartering a private jet for his 11-hour visit to Kigali to sign Rishi Sunak’s deportation deal after the supreme court’s finding that Rwanda was an “unsafe country”.
He travelled to Kigali with officials and a TV crew on 4 December and signed the new legally binding treaty alongside Rwanda’s foreign affairs minister, Vincent Biruta.
It can now be revealed that the catering for the eight-and-a-half hour return flight for Cleverly and his 14 officials cost £9,803.20, or £653.55 a head, according to a freedom of information response given to the Labour party. The TV crew paid for their own food.
He's not a Tory just now, but there's plenty of time till 2029.
If you can get five years for peaceful protest, what will this woman get for 'violent' protest? And what should she get? :dunno:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...admits-assault
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:confused:Quote:
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One of the two serious charges appears to be causing £17.50 worth of dry cleaning. Lock her up!Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
But the ferries ...!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr54gv99dz1o
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Ministers are to take a direct role in overseeing the building of the HS2 rail line to try to "get a grip" on the rising cost of the high speed route between London and Birmingham.
Transport Secretary Louise Haigh said it had long been clear that the cost of HS2, which could reach £66bn, had been allowed to "spiral out of control".
She should get treated the same as anyone else would with assault even if he is a c#££. Two MPs have been murdered by the public in recent years, they should be able to go about their lives. As an aside I just think this let him play the victimQuote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Hope it goes higher since we get 10% to spend on what we want. Infrastructure projects in the UK are crippled by bureaucracy and consultations. In the UK our rail and trams projects cost 2.5 times the price of French projects. A good thread on the subject. The lower Thames Crossing's application in now 300,000 pages long and has cost £300 million and it's not even been started. Be like the French, Spanish, Norwegians and Germans just get it builtQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
https://x.com/Sam_Dumitriu/status/1694990887439233239
Sam_Dumitriu
Is Britain getting a bad deal?
@Ben_A_Hopkinson
and I looked at 242 infrastructure projects across 14 different countries.
Our conclusion? It costs more to build new tram systems, railways, and roads in Britain than almost anywhere else in the world
Phase 1 of High Speed 2 (🇬🇧) will cost £396m per mile of track.
🇮🇹Naples-Bari Line: £74m per mile
🇫🇷Tours-Bordeaux: £46m per mile
🇯🇵Hokkiado Shinkansan: £51m per mile
An article saying similar
https://www.ft.com/content/9aa0fcc0-31fb-44be-b5a0-57ceb7fb7a52
The Nimby tax on Britain and America
Local objections and protracted reviews mean new infrastructure projects cost far more in the UK and US than elsewhere
The thing is we voted these guys out because of this sort of thing only to find the new guys are at it right away. Imagine how bad Starmer and his gang will be if they last 14 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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Think Steven Flynns case was worse than Starmer lobbying for a company then taking 30k from them. I think it's more a case of they are all taking bungs, which is obviously legal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Michelle Mone Railway inc.?[emoji23][emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
https://x.com/Bbmorg/status/18483915...NNZ8isO_g&s=08
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Is that you saying that throwing a milkshake at someone is the same as murder? That's what you seem to be saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
At what? This is about Cleverley chartering a private plane and expensing huge amounts of booze on the public tab. Where has Starmer been doing that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Rules? What rules?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gabl-_KW...png&name=small
She had a penchant for sending her chum Sir John Hayes classified home office documents in breach of the rules/law so he could tell her what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Helluva lot more breaches than she initially owned up to, whodathunkit.
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That's an insane take from that, I've not much to addQuote:
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Sure.Quote:
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Jail.Quote:
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She really is symbolic of that whole cabinet and Bozo and the waiter's leadership.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
There's rules and laws for everyone else, but we will do what we like and if we do get caught lie or deflect and minimise our misconduct.
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New lying Tory leader in Scotland (who?) opens his gob
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ga_JQk2X...pg&name=medium
What's the context?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
We spend about £1.6BN a year on prescriptions in Scotland , something like an average of 21 prescriptions per person per year. Is he saying those that can afford to should pay or is he saying nobody should get free prescriptions?
What if by making those that can afford to pay saves £600M a year that could be diverted to other NHS services?
(And nobody should get paracetamol on prescription as they are about 40p in the shops)
The former. How much would it cost to implement and operate a system where some people pay but others don't? What impact would it have on the take up of prescriptions? Suppose I can afford 21 prescriptions a year but I'm seriously ill and I need 120 prescriptions a year. How is that managed?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamie_1875
What if it doesn't save £600m but instead costs more to operate than having free prescriptions?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamie_1875
Agreed. That's surely down to the doctors and people filling out prescriptions to make sure they don't prescribe such easily obtained medicines. Then again, what if someone can't afford even 40p for paracetamol?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamie_1875
In England you can pay for an annual certificate that costs about £115 and you get all the prescriptions you need for that year, we could do something like that for those that can afford it. I am not sure how much it would cost to administer, but they seem to manage it with the winter fuel allowance. I would be surprised if people can't afford 40p? Maybe I am out of touch but are you suggesting people can't afford 40p these days?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt