Pet Peeves IV

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

Has he tried deodorant or soap?

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No he prefers to drive his lorry

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Originally Posted by Chuck Rhoades

Public Bus / Coach / HGV drivers giving each other the little wave and / or flash of lights. How tedious. They won’t know the majority of them and for those on long drives they must rack up 3-figures worth. Why bother?

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You'd hate my wife. She waves at the 900 bus every time one passes and she is not a bus/coach/HGV driver. This isn't limited to when she's driving or in the car either. She does it in the street too.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Train fares.

They just make no sense at all. I had to buy a single only the other day. £12. The day return was £11.80. I know it's only 20p but in what world does that make any sense? I would even get it if the return was only 20p more expensive but I double, triple and quadruple checked it, no off peak restrictions, no anytime option etc etc. It was definitely cheaper to buy the return so I did.

Also bought tickets for a train to Birmingham the other day. One train was £118 return, the one that left 12 minutes earlier and was 25 minutes quicker was £72 return. Make it make sense.

(Oh and both Birmingham options were significantly more expensive than flying even accounting for the short hop from International to New Street at the other end).

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Another thing that annoys me about train fares is the non-uniformity of what is a peak or off-peak ticket. Generally off-peak on weekdays after 9.15am but if your service leaves from Waverley, Haymarket, Central or Queen Street to certain destinations, there's evening restrictions between 16.42 and 18.11 but for some reason the 17.59 train from Edinburgh to Glasgow Central is excluded from this (admittedly it takes an hour and a half). Then the 18.15 trains in either direction from Waverley/QS are included, likewise with 18.35 Waverley to Aberdeen.

Its so confusing. Just make it a standard time.

Also, the pricing of stations in Edinburgh is stupid too. I live near both South Gyle and Edinburgh Park stations. Edinburgh Park to Waverley is more expensive than South Gyle to Waverley, despite taking the exact same time. I would love an Edinburgh day ticket (or return ticket) on the train too. So I could maybe go into the City Centre from South Gyle but return on an Edinburgh Park service.

Edit: just checked something on the Edinburgh station prices too. I also live within walking distance of Edinburgh Gateway. That's comparatively substantially more expensive than South Gyle (£1) but is only one station away from it on the same line. Not all services stop at both stations so quite often if you put South Gyle to Waverley/Haymarket into the Scotrail app, it will tell you to get a train from S Gyle to Gateway and change train and it is the cheaper S Gyle to Waverley/Haymarket price. So someone going from Gateway to Waverley will pay £1 more than someone who has started at South Gyle, changed at Gateway and got on the same train as them to Waverley.

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Originally Posted by overdrive

Another thing that annoys me about train fares is the non-uniformity of what is a peak or off-peak ticket. Generally off-peak on weekdays after 9.15am but if your service leaves from Waverley, Haymarket, Central or Queen Street to certain destinations, there's evening restrictions between 16.42 and 18.11 but for some reason the 17.59 train from Edinburgh to Glasgow Central is excluded from this (admittedly it takes an hour and a half). Then the 18.15 trains in either direction from Waverley/QS are included, likewise with 18.35 Waverley to Aberdeen.

Its so confusing. Just make it a standard time.

Also, the pricing of stations in Edinburgh is stupid too. I live near both South Gyle and Edinburgh Park stations. Edinburgh Park to Waverley is more expensive than South Gyle to Waverley, despite taking the exact same time. I would love an Edinburgh day ticket on the train too. So I could maybe go into the City Centre from South Gyle but return on an Edinburgh Park service.

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I've mentioned this before. It's mad that there is no one size fits all return ticket for all stations within the Edinburgh boundary.

I get the train from Brunstane a couple of times a month. Sometimes it's better for me to get the train to Edinburgh Park, other times South Gyle or Wester Hailes and the return likewise; it's not always uniform and not always the same station that I arrive and depart from. Despite them all being broadly the same distance and time if I do arrive and depart form different stations you have to buy 2 singles which almost doubles the price. As an example if I get a return to Edinburgh Park then it's £4.80. If I arrive to South Gyle but return from Edinburgh Park it's £8.10.

There seems mystery within government as to why we are miles away from meeting targets to reduce car usage but stuff like that will discourage people from using public transport. A standardised return fare within the boundaries of a small city, in relative terms, should be a no brainer. I suppose we have only had contactless on buses for a couple of years and tap on tap off is only just getting rolled out on trams now (about 10 years after TFL launched it in London) so we are probably a decade or 2 away from any further joined up thinking.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I've mentioned this before. It's mad that there is no one size fits all return ticket for all stations within the Edinburgh boundary.

I get the train from Brunstane a couple of times a month. Sometimes it's better for me to get the train to Edinburgh Park, other times South Gyle or Wester Hailes and the return likewise; it's not always uniform and not always the same station that I arrive and depart from. Despite them all being broadly the same distance and time if I do arrive and depart form different stations you have to buy 2 singles which almost doubles the price. As an example if I get a return to Edinburgh Park then it's £4.80. If I arrive to South Gyle but return from Edinburgh Park it's £8.10.

There seems mystery within government as to why we are miles away from meeting targets to reduce car usage but stuff like that will discourage people from using public transport. A standardised return fare within the boundaries of a small city, in relative terms, should be a no brainer. I suppose we have only had contactless on buses for a couple of years and tap on tap off is only just getting rolled out on trams now (about 10 years after TFL launched it in London) so we are probably a decade or 2 away from any further joined up thinking.

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Worse than their pricing is their insistence of using two carriage services for routes that need a minimum of three for any semblance of passenger comfort.

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Originally Posted by J-C

Sometimes caused by dentures

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:agree: When I got my bottom plate it developed a whistle within weeks, it got so bad I just stopped wearing it, it was only ever fitted to give my rear molar something to lean against, I just chew on my other side and I don't whistle when I speak now :greengrin

I've noticed this phrase appearing more and more in newspapers when reporting on certain events.


"...according to people familiar with the matter"


And that means what exactly? Somebody you chatted to in the pub, or on the number 27 bus?

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

I've noticed this phrase appearing more and more in newspapers when reporting on certain events.


"...according to people familiar with the matter"


And that means what exactly? Somebody you chatted to in the pub, or on the number 27 bus?

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It means’ we’ve made it up’, a bit like ‘the BBC understands……’.