Summer 2019 transfer thread

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Originally Posted by Paisley Hibby

Me too. Don't understand the haters on here and what they get out of spouting their negative stuff ��

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Totally agree. I know a lot of folk get rid of life's frustrations at games and vent their spleen when things go wrong but it never helps the team. When you see the likes of the palace and Huddersfield fans and the backing they give their teams,even when they had horrendous home records. I do wish we were more like that. Make Easter road a place teams dread coming to. It's the way of things in social media that everybody has an opinion on everything and unfortunately these posts are mostly negative. Maybe it's our nature and we are only happy when it rains as Fran Healy said. I like to hear all opinions but would love to see more nuanced opinions and not the tsunami of negativity we have now. Small rant over.

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Originally Posted by mjhibby

Totally agree. I know a lot of folk get rid of life's frustrations at games and vent their spleen when things go wrong but it never helps the team. When you see the likes of the palace and Huddersfield fans and the backing they give their teams,even when they had horrendous home records. I do wish we were more like that. Make Easter road a place teams dread coming to. It's the way of things in social media that everybody has an opinion on everything and unfortunately these posts are mostly negative. Maybe it's our nature and we are only happy when it rains as Fran Healy said. I like to hear all opinions but would love to see more nuanced opinions and not the tsunami of negativity we have now. Small rant over.

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Pretty sure it was Shirley Manson who said she was only happy when it rains. Could be talking Garbage, though.

Mulumbu has been punted by Celtc. Would expect Killie to be where he ends up but he’d surely fit the bill for the defensive midfielder that we need?

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Mulumbu has been punted by Celtc. Would expect Killie to be where he ends up but he’d surely fit the bill for the defensive midfielder that we need?

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Hope he's being considered :agree:

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Mulumbu has been punted by Celtc. Would expect Killie to be where he ends up but he’d surely fit the bill for the defensive midfielder that we need?

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Maybe not, with Clarke no longer there.


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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Mulumbu has been punted by Celtc. Would expect Killie to be where he ends up but he’d surely fit the bill for the defensive midfielder that we need?

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Not sure he has the energy, PH is looking for in his midfielders. Good in a battle but anyone running at him with pace and he is like a man down.

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

Not sure he has the energy, PH is looking for in his midfielders. Good in a battle but anyone running at him with pace and he is like a man down.

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Hecky said he wants someone who can link defence and midfield to help us play out from the back, which I think Mulumbu could do. But you are spot on, he’s not the quickest anymore and won’t get about the pitch. His injury record also isn’t great.

Mulumbu would be a great singing, exactly what we need. Good leader with physical presence and ability.

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Originally Posted by brog

Of course he was. That's why he played over 50 1st team games by the age of 21. We all have different opinions of players but it's sometimes good to support them with facts.

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Originally Posted by tonyrougier123

Behave yerself! Miles?? 😂

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How many games did he start after Fontaine joined? Come on, he was clearly not close to the 3 main guys at the time, he just wasn't good enough and was moved on.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

How many games did he start after Fontaine joined? Come on, he was clearly not close to the 3 main guys at the time, he just wasn't good enough and was moved on.

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28 plus 17 as a sub scoring 2 goals

Missed the whole of the 2015/16 campaign through injury

Fonts joined us in August 2014

played 100 scored 4

Forster

played 79 scored 6

Lies damned lies and statistics!

Ryan Gauld to be released by sporting with a year left on his deal. Wonder where he will end up next. Unlucky to get injured here and I think he would've made an impact had he stayed fit. Sad that some hibs fans just followed that turd Kris boyd's analysis of him after his first 45 minutes of football in about 5 months. Shouldn't have been judged on that.

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Ryan Gauld to be released by sporting with a year left on his deal. Wonder where he will end up next. Unlucky to get injured here and I think he would've made an impact had he stayed fit. Sad that some hibs fans just followed that turd Kris boyd's analysis of him after his first 45 minutes of football in about 5 months. Shouldn't have been judged on that.

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Can’t see him at Hibs. Hecky said he has to go somewhere to play every week
A season with regular game time, is what Gauld needs

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Originally Posted by matty_f

Pretty sure it was Shirley Manson who said she was only happy when it rains. Could be talking Garbage, though.

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Seen what you did there.....:agree:

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Originally Posted by matty_f

Pretty sure it was Shirley Manson who said she was only happy when it rains. Could be talking Garbage, though.

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Me bad. Got songs mixed up. I meant of course why does it always rain on me. Apologies.

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

28 plus 17 as a sub scoring 2 goals

Missed the whole of the 2015/16 campaign through injury

Fonts joined us in August 2014

played 100 scored 4

Forster

played 79 scored 6

Lies damned lies and statistics!

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So 28 games in 3 years, quite a few of which will be alongside them in a back 3 before McGregor joined.

He didn't miss the whole season injured, he was fit and farmed out on loan because he couldn't get in the side.

He just wasn't good enough, awful in our relegation season, forgotten because he was younger I guess.

McGregor done everything Forster done, just to a much higher level. Great upgrade from Stubbs.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

How many games did he start after Fontaine joined? Come on, he was clearly not close to the 3 main guys at the time, he just wasn't good enough and was moved on.

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You seriously don't think a year out through injury played any part in that decision? It's ironic really in that if there's one current player who Forster can genuinely be compared to it's Darren M. Neither of them the most technically gifted,nor the quickest though I remember some swashbuckling right back runs from Jordon, but both committed, strong & physical & brave as they come & highly popular/respected by their team mates. Those are great attributes for any player & I think its pertinent that he's just been signed by an ex team mate.

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Originally Posted by brog

You seriously don't think a year out through injury played any part in that decision? It's ironic really in that if there's one current player who Forster can genuinely be compared to it's Darren M. Neither of them the most technically gifted,nor the quickest though I remember some swashbuckling right back runs from Jordon, but both committed, strong & physical & brave as they come & highly popular/respected by their team mates. Those are great attributes for any player & I think its pertinent that he's just been signed by an ex team mate.

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I think it’s more pertinent that’s he’s just signed for a Scottish Championship team. He’s not good enough.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

I think it’s more pertinent that’s he’s just signed for a Scottish Championship team. He’s not good enough.


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John McGinn was a Scottish Championship player.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

So 28 games in 3 years, quite a few of which will be alongside them in a back 3 before McGregor joined.

He didn't miss the whole season injured, he was fit and farmed out on loan because he couldn't get in the side.

He just wasn't good enough, awful in our relegation season, forgotten because he was younger I guess.

McGregor done everything Forster done, just to a much higher level. Great upgrade from Stubbs.

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Jeez you're like a dog with a bone, is there really any need to continually slag off an ex player who gave his all when he played for us.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Wan Bissaka is not a limited right back. He's an outstanding player.

Seen him when Scotland under 21s played England 21s at Tynecastle last season and he was an absolute standout. Our Ryan Porteous played the same day and they were miles apart in terms of physicality, ball anticipation, positioning and athleticism. And that's not putting Porteuous down in anyway who is a great prospect but Wan Bisakka is a phenomenal talent.

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Very good athlete and good at palace not great on the ball imo. Scored an own goal in a recent tournament game because he refused to use his left foot.

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Originally Posted by J-C

Jeez you're like a dog with a bone, is there really any need to continually slag off an ex player who gave his all when he played for us.

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I'm not slagging him off. I didn't call him hopeless or useless. I'm giving my opinion on his ability on the pitch after he came up in discussion. A perfectly reasonable thing to do on a forum.

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Originally Posted by brog

You seriously don't think a year out through injury played any part in that decision? It's ironic really in that if there's one current player who Forster can genuinely be compared to it's Darren M. Neither of them the most technically gifted,nor the quickest though I remember some swashbuckling right back runs from Jordon, but both committed, strong & physical & brave as they come & highly popular/respected by their team mates. Those are great attributes for any player & I think its pertinent that he's just been signed by an ex team mate.

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I agree, one is just clearly much better than the other.

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Originally Posted by h18eeynick

I thought he was brilliant at attacking the ball hence original post and no worse at defending than Paul or Darren who ,like anybody, have their moments. Good luck to the lad

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Nonsense

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

So 28 games in 3 years, quite a few of which will be alongside them in a back 3 before McGregor joined.

He didn't miss the whole season injured, he was fit and farmed out on loan because he couldn't get in the side.

He just wasn't good enough, awful in our relegation season, forgotten because he was younger I guess.

McGregor done everything Forster done, just to a much higher level. Great upgrade from Stubbs.

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HaHa!

Your point was how many games did he start since the fonts came in?

2014/15 18 starts 3 as a sub 1 goal

2015/16 1 start then loaned out to Derek Adams at Plymouth for 12 starts

Derek Adams obviously remembered him from his HIBS days and liked what he saw

2016/17 8 starts 14 as a sub 1 goal

Neil Lennon obviously valued the contribution Forster could make to close down the game in our Championship winning season

2013/14 The Wilderness Years under Butcher 30 starts 4 goals

Very few HIBS players survived that period at HIBS and lived to tell the tale
He was very much a young lad thrown in at the deep end

I admit not good enough for the level we are at just now but football is not just about heading and kicking it is about focus guts attitude determination desire and the will to win and he had it in abundance

If Scott McKenna is worth 8m?

GGTTH

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Ryan Gauld to be released by sporting with a year left on his deal. Wonder where he will end up next. Unlucky to get injured here and I think he would've made an impact had he stayed fit. Sad that some hibs fans just followed that turd Kris boyd's analysis of him after his first 45 minutes of football in about 5 months. Shouldn't have been judged on that.

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Spot on. He's a damn clever player. I thought he was MOTM at St Mirren away, played some cracking through balls that we couldn't convert.

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Ryan Gauld to be released by sporting with a year left on his deal. Wonder where he will end up next. Unlucky to get injured here and I think he would've made an impact had he stayed fit. Sad that some hibs fans just followed that turd Kris boyd's analysis of him after his first 45 minutes of football in about 5 months. Shouldn't have been judged on that.

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I'll judge Gauld on what I saw of him in a Hibs shirt, and that wasn't enough for me to be interested in bringing him back.

There's also the question of how he fits into a midfield that already has Allan, Mallan and Murray (plus cover from Newall and Horgan) but no box to box or defensive players.

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Ryan Gauld to be released by sporting with a year left on his deal. Wonder where he will end up next. Unlucky to get injured here and I think he would've made an impact had he stayed fit. Sad that some hibs fans just followed that turd Kris boyd's analysis of him after his first 45 minutes of football in about 5 months. Shouldn't have been judged on that.

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Back to Dundee United would be my bet

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Ryan Gauld to be released by sporting with a year left on his deal. Wonder where he will end up next. Unlucky to get injured here and I think he would've made an impact had he stayed fit. Sad that some hibs fans just followed that turd Kris boyd's analysis of him after his first 45 minutes of football in about 5 months. Shouldn't have been judged on that.

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Dundee United bound.

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Originally Posted by Eyrie

I'll judge Gauld on what I saw of him in a Hibs shirt, and that wasn't enough for me to be interested in bringing him back.

There's also the question of how he fits into a midfield that already has Allan, Mallan and Murray (plus cover from Newall and Horgan) but no box to box or defensive players.

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I'm not saying I would re sign him but he barely played more than 90 minutes in his entire spell for us through injury. Don't know how people can say hes a wee laddie still and all that because of being chucked into his first start in 3 and a half months away to rangers. There were also far bigger culprits in that first half of the game yet Boyd and some hibs fans seen fit to hound him for some bizarre reason. Hopefully he goes somewhere and finds somewhere to settle down. Maybe he's like scott allan with us and Dundee United is where he plays his best football If he ends up back there

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

HaHa!

Your point was how many games did he start since the fonts came in?

2014/15 18 starts 3 as a sub 1 goal

2015/16 1 start then loaned out to Derek Adams at Plymouth for 12 starts

Derek Adams obviously remembered him from his HIBS days and liked what he saw

2016/17 8 starts 14 as a sub 1 goal

Neil Lennon obviously valued the contribution Forster could make to close down the game in our Championship winning season

2013/14 The Wilderness Years under Butcher 30 starts 4 goals

Very few HIBS players survived that period at HIBS and lived to tell the tale
He was very much a young lad thrown in at the deep end

I admit not good enough for the level we are at just now but football is not just about heading and kicking it is about focus guts attitude determination desire and the will to win and he had it in abundance

If Scott McKenna is worth 8m?

GGTTH

Source: fitbastats

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Foster was a good Hibs man while he was at E.R. wish him all the best in his future playing days.

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

HaHa!

Your point was how many games did he start since the fonts came in?

2014/15 18 starts 3 as a sub 1 goal

2015/16 1 start then loaned out to Derek Adams at Plymouth for 12 starts

Derek Adams obviously remembered him from his HIBS days and liked what he saw

2016/17 8 starts 14 as a sub 1 goal

Neil Lennon obviously valued the contribution Forster could make to close down the game in our Championship winning season

2013/14 The Wilderness Years under Butcher 30 starts 4 goals

Very few HIBS players survived that period at HIBS and lived to tell the tale
He was very much a young lad thrown in at the deep end

I admit not good enough for the level we are at just now but football is not just about heading and kicking it is about focus guts attitude determination desire and the will to win and he had it in abundance

If Scott McKenna is worth 8m?

GGTTH

Source: fitbastats

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Okay so he played a bit in the first championship season and the promotion season (started about 3 important games, rest were against pub teams in cups)

He was pretty awful under Butcher. Some dreadful performances.

He had a good attitude maybe, although weren't there rumours of him getting a tattoo during the season, against the clubs rules, which ruled him out of playing for a bit? Probably rubbish.

McKenna is a much better player than Forster, not even close. We upgraded with 4 much better players.