Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

Ok worry is the wrong word What I want to see is them get there comeuppance which IMO should be more than Administration I have no emotional investment in Hear7s apart from they are our city rivals and while I would miss that the Punishment should fit the crime .

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No problem with that but "worrying" about their plight still seems OTT. Revelling in their predicament, whatever befalls them is going to be bad even if they extricate themselves from their current owners, seems ok.

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If you find that sad there isn't a lot I can do about it ,but if you want to contribute your direct Debit to There fighting fund feel free .

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Polarisation of arguments on the internet, whodda thunk it.

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I don't remember them all standing on the away Terracing at the Hands off Hibs event and that was there chance to show Solidarity with our plight so I assume they were happy with Mercers devious ploy when Tiny Rowland had shafted us to buy hotel chains in Bristol that were going down the swanny, he set up our then out his depth chairman ,Mr Duff to have a meeting with mercer in London to help us out financially .Duff had no idea he was meeting mercer and no idea the proposal being put to him was I will help out but make Hibs extinct in the process . Now if you are asking does that make me emotional ,the answer is yes . Now maybe I should let that all go ,but in some way Liquidation would go some way to righting that wrong .Mr Duff could of sold his soul to the Devil ,but he was a Hibby at heart and held out ,and eventually was jailed for his financial wrongdoing .( so there is a moral in there) Sir Tom had to step in or we would still have been in deep trouble

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Are you aware of Duff's financial wrong-doing and why he served time? The hotels etc were in Bath BTW not Bristol.

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

We can hardly look silly after telling them for years it would end in tears.

All that we can get wrong now is that they won't be liquidate.

Everything else we have predicted has come to pass. Self sufficiency; missing shares; Vlads Disappearance; Administration; more cake sales; no transfer of owner ship; missed deadlines (August, October, December, January, March) ; relegation (remember how they'd be past us by September).

I wish I was in Bulgaria, the tears of pride are welling up. Thanks to the experts on here, we have been miles in front of the media, and the Hearts rumour mill at every step.

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I agree on all that. I was referring only to the frozen shares.

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Originally Posted by Kato

No problem with that but "worrying" about their plight still seems OTT. Revelling in their predicament, whatever befalls them is going to be bad even if they extricate themselves from their current owners, seems ok.





Polarisation of arguments on the internet, whodda thunk it.




Are you aware of Duff's financial wrong-doing and why he served time? The hotels etc were in Bath BTW not Bristol.

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Was never good at geography .I stand corrected :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

Ok worry is the wrong word What I want to see is them get there comeuppance which IMO should be more than Administration I have no emotional investment in Hear7s apart from they are our city rivals and while I would miss that the Punishment should fit the crime . If you find that sad there isn't a lot I can do about it ,but if you want to contribute your direct Debit to There fighting fund feel free . I don't remember them all standing on the away Terracing at the Hands off Hibs event and that was there chance to show Solidarity with our plight so I assume they were happy with Mercers devious ploy when Tiny Rowland had shafted us to buy hotel chains in Bristol that were going down the swanny, he set up our then out his depth chairman ,Mr Duff to have a meeting with mercer in London to help us out financially .Duff had no idea he was meeting mercer and no idea the proposal being put to him was I will help out but make Hibs extinct in the process . Now if you are asking does that make me emotional ,the answer is yes . Now maybe I should let that all go ,but in some way Liquidation would go some way to righting that wrong .Mr Duff could of sold his soul to the Devil ,but he was a Hibby at heart and held out ,and eventually was jailed for his financial wrongdoing .( so there is a moral in there) Sir Tom had to step in or we would still have been in deep trouble
I am not looking for them to become as extinct as a Dodo ,but The big L seems to me to be a fair cop as they say .But others that feel administration is fairer are entitled to there opinion and what will be will be . Your right I won't worry:wink:

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Agree most of this especially the bit about the your average yam being pretty triumphalist about shutting us down, there weren't many sympathising with us that's for sure.

The Rowland in question was David Rowland a much nastier piece of work than tiny Rowland allegedly, we quite like his ex missus though :greengrin

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

Was never good at geography .I stand corrected :rolleyes:

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It happens mate, don't worry about it. :wink:

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Are you aware of Duff's financial wrong-doing and why he served time? The hotels etc were in Bath BTW not Bristol.[/QUOTE]

Duff got about 18 months for some mortgage fraud business, nothing to do with Hibs . Did time in an open prison which was pretty cushy but got struck off as a Solicitor.

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

Was never good at geography .I stand corrected :rolleyes:

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...and the David Duff question?

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Agree most of this especially the bit about the your average yam being pretty triumphalist about shutting us down, there weren't many sympathising with us that's for sure.

The Rowland in question was David Rowland a much nastier piece of work than tiny Rowland allegedly, we quite like his ex missus though :greengrin

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At least our Mr Nasty had a waterfront penthouse in Monte Carlo, unlike the Govan lot whose " wealth off the radar " Motherwell born Billionaire stayed in back street in Monte Carlo about a mile from the front. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

It happens mate, don't worry about it. :wink:

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Originally Posted by Kato

...and the David Duff question?

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Check Mate :confused:

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

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Is that a David Duff smiley? :greengrin

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Duff got about 18 months for some mortgage fraud business, nothing to do with Hibs . Did time in an open prison which was pretty cushy but got struck off as a Solicitor.

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Correct. Too many people believing the Jambos version of this story which is that Duff and Gray were jailed for things which went on at Hibs. Total lies too cover their embarrassment at having Dot Cotton look after their finances/laundry over the years. Gray was never jailed, Duff served time for some dodgy mortgage business in Swindon a couple of years after the take-over attempt.

Which makes me wonder. Whatever happened to the Leslie Deans story? He's been charged with working for Mr Popadopoulous and not a cheep from the EEN after one story last year.

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Originally Posted by greenginger

At least our Mr Nasty had a waterfront penthouse in Monte Carlo, unlike the Govan lot whose " wealth off the radar " Motherwell born Billionaire stayed in back street in Monte Carlo about a mile from the front. :greengrin

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:agree: Hibs class shyster :greengrin, who also had a boat moored at Southampton I believe, was allegedly visited by some hibbies who obviously had a boating background.

Done well for himself since mind.http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...reasurer-quits

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

Is that a David Duff smiley? :greengrin

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No it's me with a map trying to find Bristol :greengrin

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

No it's me with a map trying to find Bristol :greengrin

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Or was it Bath :greengrin

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

No it's me with a map trying to find Bristol :greengrin

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

Or was it Bath :greengrin

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So what about David Duff?
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Meeting delayed. Oh that's terrible news. The poor wee YAMs must be getting worried.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

They definitely appear to have changed this to BIDCO. The original CVA said FoH but since Budge was unveiled they have only talked of BIDCO. Maybe this is a straightforward change?

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Wouldn't have thought so.

The CVA was proposed in FOH's name, and I can't see that that could be changed. I suspect it's just lazy journalism and they're not as pedantic as me :wink:

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Originally Posted by AndyB_70

Meeting delayed. Oh that's terrible news. The poor wee YAMs must be getting worried.

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This is the bit I don't get.

Has it actually been delayed? The UKIO admin said it would probably take place "next week". The 7th is a week on Monday.

Was it ever going to happen next week? If it was, what difference does a couple of days make?

Bit of non-news, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

It's what I think as well but only based on the opinions on here, one Bloomberg article and a few references to Portsmouth.
I'm surprised at the complete silence on the issue from anyone connected with Hearts including BDO. This little Jambo omertà means that I can't be sure that they have not had assurances from people in Lithuania that achieving the CVA will be enough to unlock the freezer. BDO appear to be making more progress than many on here predicted.

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Agree with that. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of behind the scenes stitching up going on. Any money recovered from the Yams goes to UKIO and ultimately the Lithuanian state bank bail out fund. Most money recovered from UBIG will end up the same. Since they seem to have decided to take the £2.5M for a quick and easy transaction, it suits all parties to make it as quick and easy as possible. There is obviously still the possibility the courts will block everything anyway but it does seem that 29.9% of UBIG's holding has found its way to UKIO control. How does that square with the freezer theory?

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

I agree on all that. I was referring only to the frozen shares.

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Agree with that. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of behind the scenes stitching up going on. Any money recovered from the Yams goes to UKIO and ultimately the Lithuanian state bank bail out fund. Most money recovered from UBIG will end up the same. Since they seem to have decided to take the £2.5M for a quick and easy transaction, it suits all parties to make it as quick and easy as possible. There is obviously still the possibility the courts will block everything anyway but it does seem that 29.9% of UBIG's holding has found its way to UKIO control. How does that square with the freezer theory?

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UKIO had 29.9% of the HMFC shares pre-admin. They've had that for a long time, before the Court order.

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

So what about David Duff?
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You know more about him than me so no point in me adding to the Mythology:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

Has anyone got a list of thier top 10 earners just to remind ourselves of how outwith thier means they were living and what was the most we ever paid ,was it five grand a week ? To Sauzee

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According to this:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...yroll-1.143001

£6K per week for Sauzée.

I think Craig Gordon was their highest earner, at c £18K per week.

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

You know more about him than me so no point in me adding to the Mythology:rolleyes:

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I think there are tribes in Papua New Guinea, with no electricity and a literacy rate of 0.8% that know more about Mr. Duff than you do Ronnie. :greengrin

Read this http://www.hibs.net/archive/index.php/t-237713.html .

It's what sets us apart from the Jambos, willingness to face up to our mistakes.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

UKIO had 29.9% of the HMFC shares pre-admin. They've had that for a long time, before the Court order.

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Ok, that would explain it, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk

You know more about him than me so no point in me adding to the Mythology:rolleyes:

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Yeah, but you already attempted to add to it.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

UKIO had 29.9% of the HMFC shares pre-admin. They've had that for a long time, before the Court order.

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What about the 15% held by VR's neice (?), does that have any affect on proceedings? Does the CVA also need those shares or would it mean that a relative of VR would have 15% in HoMFC after a successful CVA?

[QUOTE=Filled Rolls;3943660]We can hardly look silly after telling them for years it would end in tears.

All that we can get wrong now is that they won't be liquidate.

Everything else we have predicted has come to pass. Self sufficiency; missing shares; Vlads Disappearance; Administration; more cake sales; no transfer of owner ship; missed deadlines (August, October, December, January, March) ; relegation (remember how they'd be past us by September).

if they avoid Liquidation, we can look forward to many more predictions coming true. Their struggle living within their means, the slow progress out of the Championship, the struggle to fix their death trap stadium, the relocation to Livingston, the drop down the leagues, sponsorship by Shandon Fags and Mags, the car boot sales and open air market at the PBS, the attendances of 45,000 at Saughton Enclosure, the pathetic pleas to Edinburgh City Council, LRT buses being painted green etc.

I wish I was in Bulgaria, the tears of pride are welling up. Thanks to the experts on here, we have been miles in front of the media, and the Hearts rumour mill at every step.[/QUOTE
post of the day(so far):top marks
Its worth poining out that so far we have been weeks/months ahead of the media.
i will say again"this thread is the only truthful document of there downfall"
:hibees

:not worth[QUOTE=Glesgahibby;3943729]

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

We can hardly look silly after telling them for years it would end in tears.

All that we can get wrong now is that they won't be liquidate.

Everything else we have predicted has come to pass. Self sufficiency; missing shares; Vlads Disappearance; Administration; more cake sales; no transfer of owner ship; missed deadlines (August, October, December, January, March) ; relegation (remember how they'd be past us by September).

if they avoid Liquidation, we can look forward to many more predictions coming true. Their struggle living within their means, the slow progress out of the Championship, the struggle to fix their death trap stadium, the relocation to Livingston, the drop down the leagues, sponsorship by Shandon Fags and Mags, the car boot sales and open air market at the PBS, the attendances of 45,000 at Saughton Enclosure, the pathetic pleas to Edinburgh City Council, LRT buses being painted green etc.

I wish I was in Bulgaria, the tears of pride are welling up. Thanks to the experts on here, we have been miles in front of the media, and the Hearts rumour mill at every step.[/QUOTE
post of the day(so far):top marks
Its worth poining out that so far we have been weeks/months ahead of the media.
i will say again"this thread is the only truthful document of there downfall"
:hibees

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