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Not wanting the likes of Kyle and Black is precisely why we are where we are now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobo
Preferring to go for one of our young stikers would be asking for a relegation fight again. If they are ready and better than what we can get out there then great, but they aren't.
Scott burn has tweeted hibs have now signed Clancy
Our own young strikers are getting farmed out to lower league teams on loan, one confirmed with others to follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobo
Can't be true for a number of reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooter
Hibs don't sign players with SPL experience.
Hibs don't sign players other teams in the SPL still want.
We certainly don't sign players from a team about to play in the Champions League qualifiers.
Petrie won't pay anyone this early in the summer.
Hibs reputation is at an all time low and no players from teams that finished higher than us would see us as attractive.
We don't pay well enough for us to be the team that were able to make him a significantly better offer.
Seems quite far up a wanted list to be right.
I'm sure there are other reasons I won't be having this.
But we do pay :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Get Kyle in immediately. He's exactly the type of striker we lack. A big, ugly, barnstorming, battering ram who throws centre backs about like an empty tracksuit. Pay as you play deal preferably.
It's time we got nasty and bullied teams.
:agree: A very difficult player to handle physically. If fit he would be a real asset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
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Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
Get Kyle and Beattie in (both free agents) -> Doyle, Kyle and Beattie sounds good to me :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
Everybody on the outside looks upon the whole club, from the fans to the players, as a soft touch. About time that changed.
Some of the comments on this thread are superb!
We finished 2nd bottom because we get bullied over the park and have players who can't cut it at this level.
KK doesn't get bullied by anybody and will p**s over SPL centre halfs.
Rather have him in the team or against him???? No choice....
Also worth pointing out that KK has worked with Bobby Brown before so it may be that BB recommended him to Pat. It's his perogative.
There's no danger that Kevin Kyles injury problems have just gone away. I'm no saying that when he's fit he wouldn't be a good addition to the team. We clearly need someone to do the job that he does, but......he just isn't fit. It doesnt matter what kind of deal we get him on, he's going to miss lots of games and by having him signed up we're going to forfeit signing another decent striker. Even on a pay-as-you-play deal Hibs aren't going to sign him and another good target man, because then when Kyle is fit we have to pay 2 but only play 1.
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Originally Posted by GordonHFC
Is that why so many players are falling over themselves to sign up for us?
I hear there's a queue of players and their agents lined up right round the stadium today, all desperate to come on board. :rolleyes:
From the time they recorded that gangsta rap album together?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
I agree, its keeping him fit thats been his problem recently. Can he get fit and stay fit, thats the difficult question none of us know the answer to?Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Maybe it's the positive attitude of our fans that will win them round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
So we can blame you for Calderwood's failure in the transfer market?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Whats there to be positive about at easter road Andy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
If you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
I'm suggesting we don't require to be actively unhelpful. We don't need to be spinning cartwheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
You mean keep quiet, dont mention how we feel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Our club is in a mess, even you must see that, its only normal to speak about how some folk feel?
If it gets better, i'm sure the mood will rise, but as we are at a very low ebb, its no surprise to me folk are hardly giving high fives all over the board.
I dont really understand how some folk venting thier frustrations on a fans messageboard is being actively unhelpful? It's not as though there are posse's of disgruntled fans going round potential targets doors and telling them we dinnae want thier kind at Easter Road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
It also appears that nobody at Hibs can do anything right compared to the whiners on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
At that final, I mind that the first scarf was thrown torwards the pitch after we went 1-0 down. Part of the reason we have losers on the pitch is that we have too many losers in the stands who aren't prepared to take positive action but will instead whine and moan about every single thing about the club.
Got to say, the 12th man and S43 are to be commended, it's groups like that we need.
I fully await some absolute idiot post something in reply such as "So it's all our fault that x can't play" etc. etc. etc. because as I say, too many losers in our support. PF is onto something when he says that this club is too soft - in all areas.
FFS, we've just signed a player from a side who are going towards the Champions League qualifying rounds, can we not enjoy that for just a couple of hours?
The mood and the culture is set as much by us as anyone at the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
No, there's not a lot to be happy about, but I wonder if some folk constantly sniping, repeating a lot of well worn out and disproved nonsense and generally making everyone even more miserable is helping to create an environment where fans feel they want to contribute or somewhere where players want to play?
I see from the other thread we have 5,000 season ticket holders, despite some new people signing up for final tickets.
We can go out our way to tell everyone who crap everything is but I'm not sure what that is helping people to achieve?
What a load of *****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
If people want to complain when things are going badly then they have every right to.
If you want to make crap up (like the bit of your post I've put in bold) then I'll add this as some more nonsensical ramblings - if you maybe spent more time supporting the team on the park than looking around you to see who was the first numpty to through thier scarf on the pitch when Hearts scored, maybe we'd have less losers on the pitch.
Complaining when things go badly is fine surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
It's going out the way to look for the worst situation in everything that gets a bit tiring and is not helping the current culture in the support, who are the club.
We're already complaining about signings that haven't been made and telling everyone exactly what mistakes Hibs will make.
Most of it misinformation based on stuff like Hibs sign players to late which is largely not true when the stas are actually looked at. Or everything gets run by Petrie which isn't true either.
I'm happy we have signed someone, i did not throw my scarf away at the final, i did leave after 85 minutes though. I agree the 12th man and section 43 are doing a grand job, i also reserve the right to talk on a Hibs fans message board just how i feel, at any time during or out of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I'm going to belgium, have a season ticket for next season and support the club whenever in the stadium, i dont need any permission to tell it as i see it on Hibs.net, from you or anyone else.
But the fans mood and culture is directly influenced by choices made by the club over which we have little/no say. Fans will always be happy when things are going well, and angry or frustrated when things arent going well. We're quite clearly in the latter camp at the moment. The right choices need to be made by the board (bring in the right manager), the manager (bring in the right players) and the coaching staff (get the best out of what we have).Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
I'm not happy about where we're at just now, but seeing folk post on here about how badly the clubs being run, how crap the players we're looking at are, etc., etc, doesnt bother me. It's not a new phenomenon, people complain all the time about pretty much everything in life. Just let them (me :greengrin) get on with it...
Clancy confirmed.
James McPake back training at Coventry.
https://twitter.com/#!/JamesMcPake
At least half those statements are ridiculosuly incorrect :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Where about?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcvie7
:faf: Whoosh.Quote:
Originally Posted by fergy
I keep hearing the name Neil Alexander being touted about,anybody heard anything similar? I'd take him in a minute. :agree:
Not easier, I wouldn't think - strikers who score goals are a very rare commodity, and we can either sign them from teams at a lower level than us (as we have done with Doyle and seem to have with Cairney), or sign players who have played at a higher level but have had problems off the field (like we did with Stokes and Riordan) or with injury, which we may do here.Quote:
Originally Posted by allezsauzee
As I said before, there is a lot more to a target man's game than scoring goals, moves can only be finished of if they can be started in the first place, which such players are pivotal for - not to mention being a menace at set pieces, which can cause havoc for other players to benefit from, and having defensive qualities also. Kyle was hugely important in Hearts finishing 3rd and (by Billy Brown's own admission), their form dropped like a stone after he got injured - it wasn't a coincidence.
And a Skacel type player? You mean a midfield player who has a scoring record of 48 goals in 90 starts? Hardly many of them kicking about within our budget, or even a bit above our budget for that matter.
Kyle's injury problems are an undoubted concern, but you never know - last season Sandaza was an injury prone striker who had hardly got started in the SPL, he was a revelation with a run of games behind him. With the right kind of deal in place, Kyle could be a great signing.
Incidentally, having a couple of wingers feeding a big aeriel threat like Kyle would be very effective - a potential strike partnership with Doyle sounds appealing too.
Alexander would be a superb signing, looked good whenever Ive seen and lots of experience (even though he hasnt played much at Rangers). I think his wages would be a problem but I suppose it depends what he wants out of a move (which could be his last club), he might be happy to be first choice until he retires.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18sry
Were you here when we were clear in 3rd place? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by easty
Few months before Kyle left Killie to sign for them he was speaking to a mate at a German Airport where he had gone for some treatment. He told him he was finished and would never pass another medical. Then he signs for Hearts :confused: I'm speculating here but maybe Hearts knew they would get a few games a season out of him and decided it was worth the gamble. Based on his chat with my mate i don't think we could expect a fully fit KK at any time so I would rather we looked elsewhere.
KK is a good player to be honest. Ive never seen him lose in the air and he holds the ball up superbly well. hated his attitude as a hearts player though but i think it would be a great signing but as mentioned his fitness would be a big risk.
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
You must never have watched any of the Hibs matches against Killie when Kyle was up against Bamba?Quote:
Originally Posted by just_joe
Kyle rarely won anything in the air against Sol.
I remember one game at easter road against Killie, and it was a hell of a battle between the two of them. Both kicked lumps out of each other, and Kyle won his share of headers, i'm not sure what that means, as Kyle is always injured, and Bamba was a bombscare? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by BEEJ
Bamba did have those 'episodes' when his mind appeared to be on other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
But when he applied himself to the task, as he had to when up against someone of Kyle's stature, Bamba was invariably one of our best players. I genuinely don't recall Kyle in a Killie jersey having a good match against us when Bamba was in our back four.
As for the story that we're interested in Kyle? He's well and truly crocked - it must be a non-starter. :pray:
I think we won the match 1-0, although not 100% sure? It was a right ding dong battle between them, in fact there were threads on here with some folk saying they wished we'd signed Kyle instead of him going to Killie.Quote:
Originally Posted by BEEJ
I agree with you on Kyle, i cant see how he will ever be fit, although if he was i would sign him.
As for bamba, in my opinion i have not seen us have a better centre half in 45 years watching the club, Jim Black is the first i really remember, although i did see John McNamee a few times, but i was young and cant remember him that much.
Le God?
I always remember kyle touching bamba downstairs at a corner at rugby park, the big man was riled by that :greengrin
If we were to sign an ex hearts striker, id prefer it to be Beatie :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by just_joe
ggtth
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Originally Posted by mcvie7
Well, that's a good sign at least.
Now all we need is a goalkeeper, another couple of back-four defenders, 2 or three midfielders, and a couple of strikers ...
And here's hoping - if we get them - that they knit into a team and don't all fall out with one another. :devil:
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Agreed. He had his moments for sure but, when focused on hibs and his own game, he was one of our best in my lifetime. I still think that Sven cost us millions by dropping him from the ivory coast team. He didn't get the exposure required for a big move and his attitude was pretty appalling when he decided to eventually saunter back to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
That's the bare minimum we need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
I make the present squad as:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Brown, Grant, and Antell;
Clancy, Booth, Hanlon, O'Hanlon, Kujabi, Stephens, Smith and Forster;
Wotherspoon, Claros, Galbraith, Stevenson, Sproule, Osbourne and Stanton;
Doyle and Caldwell.
:rolleyes:
:agree: Yip i too feel we missed out on a decent fee for him, and again yes his attitude towards the end was appalling. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by renato
That team could possibly save us from relegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
If we were in division 1 that is..
Surely the 8-7-2 formation and 3 goalkeepers would see us win the league. Seriously though there needs to be additions in every department. I'd like to see experience brought to help the younger players:Stanton, Caldwell etc. It is the way forward for Scottish football in the current climate.Quote:
Originally Posted by R'Albin
What about the other young lads that were out on loan, Handling etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
We're talking about Hibs remember, we'd f it up somehow :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Mixu 6-2
well put.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Mark Brown is gone, unless he has signed a contract recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
I can see us in the top 6 maybe even challenging Celtic if we keep them together. Can maybe afford to let some more go and we'd still be a success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
John Madsen :agree:
I remember the name, and i was at games he played in, but have no recollection of how good he was? Was it the middle to late 60s when he played?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by poolman
At 56 BH, i`m a wee bit older than you and I remember Madsen was McNamee`s replacement. I remember them both reasonably well, but it does get a bit vague sometimes. You`re right though, mid to late 60`s was Madsen`s time.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
He came from Morton & was one of their Scandinavian imports, I remember him more after he returned to Hibs, after a spell back in his homeland, we used part of the Colin Stein's cash on Cilla to replace him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feed McGraw
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Originally Posted by Ray-in-ireland
He used to wear baseball boots in Winter on the hard pitches :agree:
Good memories Ray, he was a strong player, very popular. He looked short for a centre half but maybe not as short as he looked, a bit like Chris Hogg maybe ( as in how tall he looked).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray-in-ireland
Oh dear. Oh dear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
James mcpake reported in the sun to have bidden for a house in Edinburgh. 1 hour ago said on twitter about a flight???
You could be disapoointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
He has said something on twitter re fed up with delayed flights!!! the Birmingham- Edinburgh Flybe flight was delayed this evening:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Although I suppose he could be going home for the weekend, or signing for Hearts!!
Didnt want to go out for 2nd half at Broomfield -said it was to cold and snowing (story from Stanton + O'Rourke)Quote:
Originally Posted by poolman
Anyone know who deano will be signing for would be another good addition ?
Let's hope he's coming up to sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
PF Was making all the right noises about making a big move for McPake earlier this week.
It's all part of the plan.
Sign McPake, show the club means business, get him wearing the new home shirt for the launch.
It's all coming together
From James McPakes Twitter......
'lol a lot seems to b getting reported about me!Today it's been I've signed for hearts and I'm bidding 4 a new house!Both are false!'
We had McPake for the second half of last season and we were still brutal. It will take alot more than just McPake to show we mean business. Alot more.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
Agreed but it's certainly a step in the right direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve20
There will be a lot of very peed off people on this forum if he doesn't sign for us.
I would like to see Hibs sign McPake, Hasselbaink, Neil Alexander and Griffiths. We'd then need to look at sorting out our midfield with experience.
What do others think about Hasselbaink?
Hasselbaink signed for St Johnstone recently.
Hasselbaink signed for St Johnstone did he not. Think it was reported on or around 1st June?? Might be wrong thoQuote:
Originally Posted by JennaFletcher
He did. He won't be at ER next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Well he will......... Just as a saints player..........Quote:
Originally Posted by steakbake
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Originally Posted by Billychaotic182
Now, hibs are in for Ben Reeves from Southampton. On loan at Dagenham and Redbridge recently. Time to be a bit more adventurous in our targets I reckon if true.
Where did you get that rumour from?Quote:
Originally Posted by seven nowt
Is it in the papers or just something you've heard?
I used to love a good rumour but now so many come from that drivel football rumours website i'm pretty sceptical about most players linked to us
What's Griffiths' situation? He's not long arrived in Dundee (not dressed for business) after getting the 11.04 from Haymarket. In 1st class, no less.
Staying? Going? Gone?
KK on radio Scotland - offered pre season by Hibs & Dunfermline to prove fitness
He's too big a risk and would be better off with his old mate FJK. The only benefit we would get would be upsetting a handful of Jambos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
Sounds fair enough, my concern is he doesn't prove his fitness and gets injured again then we've wasted time pursuing a player we're not signing.
I'd probably prefer we went after players without the baggage, although there's no doubt imo a fit Kevin Kyle would be a huge benefit to this current side.
I think many of them will be happy and not upset, he just never seemed to get fit again for over a year. Hopefully if we do sign him he can start to play well and keep himself fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Sheer stupidity not to try him he arried with an injury at Hearts and still managed to make us look ordinary he has now had his op so get him in and have a look at him If Fenlon has contacted him lets hope he will give hibs a chance to see what he cand do.
Strong robost player that can hold the ball up for us and has an eye for goals :wink: we have been crying out for that for ages as O'connor was never a taget man.
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Originally Posted by seven nowt
Aye right sounds quality goals nil pwa coudnae score in a month o sundays. much better than kevin Kyle of course JESUShttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Reeves
http://img.skysports.com/12/02/218x2...es_2722854.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by seven nowt
He looks like a 12 year old Brian Kerr :duck:
Would have taken KK, but I thought that he was close to retiral after being injured whilst at yams.....??Quote:
Originally Posted by edwards
Am I the only one who got sevent nowt's reference?
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Originally Posted by Wotherspiniesta
I am starting to think McPake wont sign. It would have been a done deal by now if it was going to happen. But I dont think it will be the end of the world if he doesnt sign. But I just get the feeling that it is not going to happen. I am sure my thoughts will bring the bed wetters out in force, but I am just saying!
GGTTH
I would rather he was signed by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
Big difference in his situation though is that he is not out of contract, ie he is still getting in the region of 6k a week.
If you were in his situation would you rush into a deal where you are going to have your wages halved?
Similarly Rodders wouldn't want to pay possibly 3k for a man sitting on his bum doing brussel sprout.
Not saying he will sign but I will remain hopeful until he actually signs for someone.
I'm not so sure we're not getting him. The manager and board know that most of the fans wanted him signed and i think that if we were not signing him, then we would release some information on it so the fans can accept it and move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
Green & like a 'cabbage'? Is that a hint that you know something, SB? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Based on what? Im not totally convinced we will get him as Im sure there are plenty of other clubs out there who could use a CB like him and can offer him more money, but until he has either signed for another club, or confirmed hes staying at Coventry, theres nothing to say he wont sign for Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
Things seem to have started to pick up now that the management team are back at the club, Clancy has been announced and I imagine we will see more players brought in in the next few weeks.