He is to Hearts what Radar Jackson and Co were to OldCo Huns.Quote:
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Banderson must be getting a wee bit jealous TE is cutting his grass with Budge though!
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He is to Hearts what Radar Jackson and Co were to OldCo Huns.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Banderson must be getting a wee bit jealous TE is cutting his grass with Budge though!
Is it Wednesday Spfl must respond to the Court on the Hearts case
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They were given 7 days and Hearts put it in last Wednesday so might hear something today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
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SILENCE BROKEN Stendel reveals Hearts apologised after he found out he was axed when Neilson news broke
Mark Walker
23 Jun 2020, 9:09Updated: 23 Jun 2020, 9:24
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DANIEL STENDEL has revealed he was stunned to find out he was getting the axe from Hearts when he discovered Robbie Neilson had taken his job on Sunday night.
And the German boss quipped that his decision to waive his wages at Tynecastle helped pay for Hearts' compensation to Dundee United to land his own successor.
Daniel Stendel is no longer Hearts boss
Daniel Stendel is no longer Hearts bossCredit: Andrew Barr - The Sun Glasgow
Stendel was eased out of the relegated Premiership club to make way for the return of former United boss Neilson and Tynecastle owner Ann Budge later paid tribute to Stendel's time at the club, which lasted just six months.
But although Stendel admitted he loved his time in Edinburgh, he admitted he was surprised when he heard about Neilson's appointment and revealed Hearts had to apologise for him discovering his own fate elsewhere.
He said: "I found out about the appointment of a new manager on Sunday night.
"Communication was certainly not the best in this case, but since then several people have apologised to me. This does not damage the positive image I have of the club."
Robbie Neilson made a stunning return to the Tynecastle hotseat on Sunday night
Robbie Neilson made a stunning return to the Tynecastle hotseat on Sunday nightCredit: Michael Schofield - The Sun Glasgow
And Stendel, in an interview in a German newspaper, was asked if he was angry to find out that Hearts had paid compensation to United despite him not accepting his wages since March.
He stated: "Then I even paid for my successor!
"Seriously, I'm not going to look back. I made this decision with full conviction to support my club. I have no regrets about that. I am at peace with myself and the club."
Former Barnsley boss Stendel had a clause in his contract allowing either him or the club to terminate the agreement in the event of relegation, which is still pending with a legal challenge due.
And he explained: "When I signed the contract, I had already decided not to go into the Championship if the worst came to the worst.
Stendel waived his wages to help the club through the Covid-19 cash crisisCredit: Alamy Live News
"But since our relegation wasn't under regular circumstances and especially because I got to know Hearts as a really great club, I then offered, under certain conditions in terms of staff and philosophy, to stay anyway.
"However, this became increasingly unlikely lately, the things mentioned could not be fulfilled and there were simply too many question marks. For example, nobody knows when games can start again. Maybe in October, but you definitely don't want to start without fans.
"I started at Hearts in December which certainly wasn't a good time to begin. We had four defeats from the first five games.
"But we changed the style, improved the points deficit and saw a positive trend. I was convinced we would stay up after the split.
"There were 24 points left to play for and we were only four points behind.
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"I'm sure we could have done it, but unfortunately we will never know now."
And Stendel will take plenty of happy memories back to Germany after revealing he will return to Scotland to pick up his belongings soon.
He said: "We beat Rangers twice, but our problem was the games against the smaller teams.
"The success against Steven Gerrard were absolute highlights, as was the 3-1 derby win at Hibs.
"It's a great rivalry - purely sporting, without riots and police operations. It was simply a great experience. In general, I was very positively surprised by Scottish football. Not necessarily the level, but the mentality, the fans, the whole atmosphere.
"I returned to Germany in March and intended to come back to Scotland in early April. As a result, I took hardly anything with me.
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"But I have sold my flat in Scotland and need to clear it out. I have to stay in quarantine for 14 days, so I'll sit in my flat for two weeks and fly back with my things.
"I paid for my flat for five months and lived in it for about one month....my landlord will also have a very pleasant memory of me!
"For the future, I see myself at a club that is enthusiastic, has fan potential and sports ambitions. There are enough of these in Germany too, but I remain open to everything.
"One thing is clear, my previous experience abroad has been a benefit for me in many ways."
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Its a hun thing. Adding a H to the second letter of a word apparently means the word is associated to Celtic.Quote:
Originally Posted by horseflesh
He’s been shat on from a great heightQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
They couldn’t even let the guy know he wasn’t returning
Nae luck for Desperate Dan, but it's the Hearts way, again.
Pity he'd never heard of them or he would have known what to expect.
At least he got another relegation.
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Exactly. They really don’t have any decency at all. Very poor behaviour - but not unexpected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Hearts: Shafting people since 1874.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
I like this bit: "But we changed the style, improved the points deficit and saw a positive trend. I was convinced we would stay up after the split."
After their draw with Aberdeen they were 5 points adrift. 9 games later they were only 4 points adrift. At that rate they might have caught Hamilton a little more than half way through next season.
Still, Hearts' ultimate treatment of him was unprofessional and disrespectful which is at least consistent of them.
Would have been funny if he'd turned up for work just before the latest messiah was announced.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Top planning from the businessy type owner
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As much as Stendel was a figure of fun for us when he was at Hearts, he comes across very well there and shows a level of dignity that hearts can only dream of.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
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Here’s my take on it, im not sure it’ll be a popular one because it references the last derby, where we were taken apart, let’s be honest. Apparently it was 1-3 but I left before we scored the consolation. Stendel was putting in place an extreme style of football that required a clear out of traditional Berra types. To do that in less than 20 games is impossible, Klopp did similar with the high octane press and it took him ages. In that derby I saw a scary performance from them if I’m honest, and I didn’t think we were that bad, we just weren’t given a sniff. Their passing ball retention and fitness were very good. They also put the hun to the sword (twice I think?) and although that press wasn’t working against the 8 men behind the ball teams, hence their run of defeats, I think that would have come with time. I think he has a load of potential as a manager and as a Hibs fan I’m pretty happy they have Neilson back again instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by mal
Then they went and got pumped of St Mirren, 2nd bottom St Mirren.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
For what it's worth i reckon he woukd have got them playing very good football in the championship and they would come back stronger.
Yup. His record was pretty brutal but he came into an absolute basketcase of a club, who have then preceded to treat him with the levels of respect and professionalism we've come to expect from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
How in the hell has Budge managed to make any money in her professional career? Given the last couple of years at Hearts I wouldn't trust her to organise a p**s up in a brewery.
They didn't have much time, they had 8 games. And they'd just played miserably against St Mirren and Hamilton. Stendel also had something like 1 win in 12 at Barnsley. I'd have been delighted if Hearts had kept him.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I only saw the derby on the telly and I gave up after their second goal. I thought our performance was truly appalling and much more down to us than them.
So, Stendel wanted to come back but found out about Neilson’s return via the media?
Would Mowgli be good enough to return and explain his ludicrous propaganda post on here?
I think the problem with that kind of style is 1) you need to find the right players and they are hard to come by in the market Hearts are shopping in. Its not just the fitness side, they need to be tactically smart, have good passing ability throughout the team and be adaptable. Finding a team of those players on an SPL budget is near impossible. If you do get players good enough they'll get bought by a bigger team immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
2) It's easy to get players motivated and running in the big games against Hibs and Sevco but as you've alluded to, how does that style work in run of the mill games against St Mirren, Hamilton etc? The manager/players didn't have the ability to change their game and I'm not convinced that would have changed with more time.
I agree that the derby performance was impressive but his record in general at Hearts and the other clubs he's managed is poor to terrible. There is a reason very few clubs out with the elite can play high press effectively.
I remember my initial response to that Derby defeat was anger towards our team for playing very badly. That anger probably came from disappointment, frustration and a couple of beers.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
The days after though were a different matter as I watched the replays/highlights, and like you I accepted they had outplayed us in some areas, especially the quick use of the ball going forward.
Indeed. We can say it out loud now, but I’m quite happy they’ve ended the experiment with Stendel and gone back to “the Hearts way” with Neilson.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I would argue it was a bit of both. To a man we were awful, but Hearts pressing was terrific and they showed the qualities that gets you out of bottom of the league scraps. They just couldn’t do it against other teams. Typical really. I was convinced we’d batter them that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by mal
Stendel was getting Hearts relegated and would have been sacked.
Stendel got Hearts relegated and he has been sacked.
Horrific appointment. Wrong man at wrong time. Hearts were managerless before us. They dithered over Jack Ross who was the obvious appointment. All the revisionism in the world doesn’t change the fact Budge has made a right pig’s ear of footballing matters at our rivals.
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Originally Posted by Jones28
Hibs consistently showed that they struggle against any team that puts them under pressure, under both Hecky and Ross. That was obvious from when we were obliterated 6-1 at Ibrox.
Hibs had some really good games after Hecky left, St Johnstone and Aberdeen being good examples, but neither of those teams pressed Hibs properly on the day.
Stendal obviously identified that and played the right tactics.
That's something that really needs to be sorted out for next season.
I agree this 100%. IMO he had 2 major hurdles to overcome; 1. Years of hoofball from Hearts, totally part of their DNA. You mention Berra, I said before he was punted that he was a total liability to our lowly neighbours. Stendel saw that immediately & acted. 2. The tiny Tynie pitch! That helps with the high press but it really hinders if you try to play expansive football. I know their away record is shocking but 50% of their wins, unfortunately, came at our place. ER is a full penalty area plus, bigger than Tiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I'm delighted he's gone & caveman has returned. Chocks away!
I'm finding it mental that they are feeling penalised if they have paid compensation for Neilson? There was something triggered in his contract so I'm assuming financial recompense was part of that
Did Stendel have a relegation clause in his contract? And if so have hearts used it?
Find it bizarre that they can use a clause to release the manager but are taking clubs to court over the same denial of relegation
May have missed something mind
Over the years, the Hertz fans have had some rubbish to watch. Yes, they may have got results, like they often do in the 'bigger' games, but it's been a grim watch, so I'm told.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Stendel comes in and changes the way they played. The high press, less use of the long ball etc. Over time, he could have been a good manager for them. So I would not say "horrific appointment", just "right man, but at the wrong time".
I do agree, another Budge cock-up though in the way it was handled.
He was brought in to get them away from the relegation zone. They were 3rd bottom on goal difference when he joined and were 4 points adrift when the season was brought to an end.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
In two games against Hamilton they took 1 point, same with St Johnstone, same with St Mirren. They were the other three teams in the bottom 4 when he joined. If that's not horrific I don't know what is.
That's on top of his league record at Barnsley: W1 D3 L7 - 6 points out of a possible 33.
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Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Yes but his first priority was getting them away from the relegation zone. If a manager wants to change the style of play mid-season, they’ve got to buy themselves time with results.
Also his man management seemed woeful. Hughes and Berra may have been past it but alienating them so publicly was very dumb.
I see the french courts have re-relegated Amiens and Toulouse after Ligue 1 clubs voted against reconstruction.
Makes the jambos already flimsy case even weaker. Will get laughed out of court.
Just read that on Twitter. The jambos now saying French league is nothing to do with Scotland blah blah blah 😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronson
But I had a Jambo knobheid tell me on Twitter that it was exactly the same. Hmmm I may try to track him downQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
Businessy type owner. 😂😂😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
It’s crazy how much the supposed in the know Jambos have got wrong about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
As I’ve already said before when something gets proven to be bollocks they start peddling something else
That was true when it looked like it might go the other way and it's true now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
A different league with different regulations ended their season in a different way and a different court system ruled on it.
Wish they'd make their mind upQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
A part of me feels sorry for Stendel. Another part remembers that he had no idea who Hearts were anyway, did a grand job of relegating them and is probably on the sesh right now. Whole thing was probably a blur.
They're just setting themselves up for a bigger fall when it goes pear shaped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Gary Naismith their loans manager is leaving
Permanently?Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
LD considered by Hearts
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...source=Twitter
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How many threads you want to post that in I counted 3 so farQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
I like getting my count up [emoji16]Quote:
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😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
It’s hysterical how they believe anything that means they will get a reprieve,accept it as fact then it fails to materialise then just forget it happened then move onto the next ridiculous theory. The most definitely said what happened in France made their case a slam dunk. Totally backtracking as usual and of course no mention of the lower leagues clubs accepting in the epl accepting their relegation when called as is. It’s called showing integrity and accepting that this was the only way to end the leagues. Their case looks as flimsy as rangers dossier of observations that should be laughed out of court. I hope it goes all the way and they face a huge sanction. Their behaviour has been deplorable from the start and their massive lie about no club being disadvantaged was blown out the water with them trying to stop the three clubs promotions. Their allies are gradually deserting them in the media and should this hold up the season they will be pilloried by the press.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
::faf::faf::faf:Well I thought it was funny.:faf::faf::faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Yep, there was no future in it, every bank he went to turned them down because of their credit history.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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You're clearly as twisted as me :greengrinQuote:
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https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...1-the-terrace/
Howling ������6:flag:
"We are finally acting like a big club"
What species are they? They are completely bonkers going by some of the things they say on that thread, detached from reality 😮Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheffhibee
In 20 seconds I read enough material to keep a psychiatrist in work for life. There is less self awareness there than there currently is in the White (supremacist) House.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Reaper
One person (i think) posted we are acting more like a big German club. You just have to shake your head about that:confused:
Heart*of*Midlothian and Rangers are the only clubs in Scotland that matter. The rest are either*diddy or belong over the*Irish*seaQuote:
Originally Posted by Sheffhibee
Holy ****. What planet do they live on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tambo
"The stand costs overran. Nobody could reasonably deny that. The money that went in to it, wasn’t going to be spent on the squad, if it wasn’t needed though. Once the stadium is 100% finished, it will generate a ****-tonne of cash for us, and it will have been completed without running up a huge debt to the club."
Their Daniel has insisted on Twitter that sportive-wise they were on the right track. Nice to know.
I wonder how bad they would have been if they were on the wrong track?
I hope that - like his Christmas message to the 400,000 - he tweeted this, fully clothed, from inside a sauna or a garden shedQuote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
I rarely go onto Kickback for obvious reasons but currently it is like an asylum has emptied its beds and they have all got access to the site. Really crazy views, hardly ever contradicted.
Their continued lack of ability to do simple arithmetic is no surprise but now giving complex legal views seems another step into the void of unreality.
Basically they almost all need help. Serious psychiatric help. That and the schools are not back yet. :na na:
Double whammy since they also should be deported to over the irish sea but the north side of the island [emoji16][emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by Tambo
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That's a fake account. It was full of "Daniel" slating Hibs around the time he joined Hearts which has all been deleted. All the Jambos falling for it and it's not even him.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
Its clearly his account. He was tweeting about Barnsley in May last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
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Originally Posted by Since452
Some in the media fallen for it to then:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53164162
There is a general disbelief that the SPFL have challenged the legal action as most seemed to think it was a slam dunk!!!
The odd one or two who post sensible stuff are chased for being hobos/vermin, roasters is too good a word to describe most of the Duncans who post on keekback.
A bunch of Scottish protestants forced over to the North of Ireland.Quote:
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What could possibly go wrong?
Why has nobody thought of this before?
Tbf he’s getting a bit of a roasting from the more level headed ones.Quote:
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The "staunch" element on kickback is rising rapidly
Or got lucky because the tactics he tried every game paid off for once?Quote:
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tbh, I thought both teams were pretty awful until they got lucky with the pen for Scott Allan's rush-of-blood handball. That gave them something to fight to hang on to and we seemed to go into our shell even more.
There's a bit of gardening needs doing at a place called oldderiwalz over there, so it's a a chance to put into practice what they sing a lot about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Every one's a winner
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Has there been any report of hahahahahearts responding to the Compliance Officer? Do they have a limit of time for this?
Sadly been banned from kickback. Only lasted two weeks before being rumbled. Fun while it lasted.
I only go there to snoop and find the direction of the wind. It’s good for a laugh but I’ve only been tempted to post, maybe 9 times in as many years.
Do you mean orange or right-wing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Or is that the same thing?
Kiwidoug on duncanback, asking if Hibs are bankrupt yet.
.....are we?
🙄
Hang on, I'll check on some other boakback threads.Quote:
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It's not even funny across there just now, it's just annoying. They've all become "correcshun", sparryheid, legal eagle, Irvine Welsh stereotypes.Quote:
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Deflect and distractQuote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
Remember, Hearts in the championship will KILL Scottish football
Its mental over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
Also some think they might take Shankland and after all the millions they'll be getting, on top of a cheap but good striker, super Robbie back... shings... I need to smoke or drink what they are on I reckon...
Some kind of maroon mushroom is my guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
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Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
Utter delusion. They've just been relegated to the financially stricken wilderness of lower league Scottish football. They've got no football until October and no full stand sell outs to Hibs, Celtic and Rangers. The graveness of their financial situation hasn't been aired yet because they're pinning their hopes on a fantasy court case win. They're in for a big shock.
Yep! We're stuffed. I feel sad.Quote:
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All of them enjoying to spend their maroon pounds at the new tesco at Easter Road I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
😱
So long as they’re backed by Anderson’s millions they’ll be fine. They are totally dependent on that backing though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Has she actually issued a Notice of Complaint yet? I thought she was just considering it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CentreLine
Hearts and Thistle will now be officially written to and asked to explain themselves before a final decision is made on whether to issue them with a notice of complaint for breaking the SFA’s articles of association.Quote:
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Ta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kojock
"Explaaaaain yourself" has me in nasty flashbacks..
Much appreciated 👍🏻Quote:
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As he has always called them to be. He’s not been wrong.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Since452
Hope they enjoy ‘defending’ their status as favourites for the championship next season.
Armageddon IIQuote:
Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu
More worried about Hibs when you read tweets like this 😂🤣
Not the real McInnes btw
https://twitter.com/DerekMcInnes4/st...314640896?s=19
Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Ron the con at it again 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Some folk have too much time on their hands.
If I was a maroon balloon (who lets remember have seen their club actually go bust whilst they were believing everything Romanov told them) I'd be looking at making up a list of all these no marks who keep prophecising legal victories, avoiding relegation, beating St Mirren, finishing the stand and the relentless Hibs going bust nonsense, then avoiding them like the erses they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
He’s right about one thing - what he says doesn’t add up!
Why Derek McIness? I assume it’s a hurting Jambo who’s created the false account, but a bit random.
He’s also tweeted about “Budgies bed bouncing again” in reply to one of the Neilson tweets. Sounds like an all round agitator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
A list who hasn't might be quicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Which*clubs in the premier*league are most likely to go into Administration.*
Apart from ourselves and Celtic most are in the poo.*
I reckon st mirren and Kilmarnock could go*
There not even in the premier league lol
I read that thread this morning, what a horrible shower of fans they are, cant believe any other football fans forums go on like they do wanting other clubs to go bust, I like going to the games against them so would not want them or any club to go bust, where would they be without the handouts they are getting. Their fans dont deserve the free money from James Anderson.Quote:
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