Euro 2021 non-Scotland games

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Originally Posted by 660

Jack, Victor and Winston commentary team in Scotland for the final please.

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Half time refreshments provided by Bobby and Isa.

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Originally Posted by GreenCastle

Correct me if I’m wrong but did Scotland fans not boo God save the Queen anthem at Wembley ?

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and yet it's the English FA that have been charged for the booing of the Danish anthem last night(along with the laser incident and one other) the only football authorities to do so this tournament, i think england fans have actually booed every nations anthem, as for the Scotland game at wembley do you think maybe the Scotland fans booing would have been a tad muted if our own national anthem hadn't been booed firstly ? still, at least Scotland fans don't boo every/ANY other countries national anthem, just the one.. strange that

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

and yet it's the English FA that have been charged for the booing of the Danish anthem last night(along with the laser incident and one other) the only football authorities to do so this tournament, i think england fans have actually booed every nations anthem, as for the Scotland game at wembley do you think maybe the Scotland fans booing would have been a tad muted if our own national anthem hadn't been booed firstly ? still, at least Scotland fans don't boo every/ANY other countries national anthem, just the one.. strange that

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Two.

Liechenstein:wink:

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

and yet it's the English FA that have been charged for the booing of the Danish anthem last night(along with the laser incident and one other) the only football authorities to do so this tournament, i think england fans have actually booed every nations anthem, as for the Scotland game at wembley do you think maybe the Scotland fans booing would have been a tad muted if our own national anthem hadn't been booed firstly ? still, at least Scotland fans don't boo every/ANY other countries national anthem, just the one.. strange that

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Scotland bood England’s anthem.

England bood Scotland’s anthem.

England bood Germany and last night - possible more I don’t know as not at all the games.

The point is this isn’t just England as Scotland also did it. Folk saying it’s disgraceful when it’s double standards Scottish folk doing it. Scotland have done it previously to England at Hampden also.

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Originally Posted by GreenCastle

Scotland bood England’s anthem.

England bood Scotland’s anthem.

England bood Germany and last night - possible more I don’t know as not at all the games.

The point is this isn’t just England as Scotland also did it. Folk saying it’s disgraceful when it’s double standards Scottish folk doing it. Scotland have done it previously to England at Hampden also.

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We used to boo GSTQ when it was *our* anthem. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by One Day Soon

Wow, the levels of bitter from some about this England result are staggering and very, very revealing. There's a spectrum across most of social media all the way from fair play to them you can only beat what's in front of you through to pretty much pus-filled hatred and literally just making stuff up - and everything in between.

It was a very soft penalty, I don't think it was one at all in fact. The Kane claim earlier in the game was stronger. However for the majority of that game they were certainly the more likely side. I think its a pretty uninspiring style of football - reminds me of the German approach in fact - with Denmark being the stiffest test they've had so far and yet the Danes, particularly without Eriksen, looked knackered well before full time.

Lots of games at home, an easier side to the draw, no major opponents yet and the final at a full or near full Wembley. Sometimes its written in the stars and if you take all your chances then you deserve to be champions. All the whining in the world about how they did it in those circumstances just comes across as chip-on-shoulder sour grapes.

But they still have to get past Italy who for my money have already played two finals and come out on top despite facing two very different tests. If Italy show up I expect them to win. If Italy show up and England still win then they will have deserved it. If England are going to win a major tournament I'll be pleased it's with that manager and that group of players who are a credit to themselves and their country in ways that most previous managers and squads simply were not.

It has been an outstanding finals. Whatever happens they've had a great tournament. I wish we had too. We need to do better.

And Sam Matterface is a horse's arse throwback who makes it hard to wish England well. Many English fans clearly feel that too.

Forza Azzurri.

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Good summary ODS. I think Kane would've got a penalty if he hadn't gone for his "springboard" dive style. Matterface was ridiculous at the end - basically saying ignore covid restrictions because we won at the footy. :confused:

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Originally Posted by theonlywayisup

Maybe you don't have much contact with English people, but I've had it for years "well we support Scotland when they play anyone else apart from England, so why don't you support England when they are playing anyone else apart from Scotland". Of course it's easy to say "good-luck to Scotland when they might have a chance of scraping a Euros play-off slot", but I really doubt that would be the case if it was the semi-final of the World Cup and we had a good chance of winning it.

To me, the Scotland England rivalry is the biggest one that impacts on me. I don't want them to win at anything. I grew up in the 70s, when we regularly beat them and that was just fantastic. Now, I'm saddened by our nation's acceptance of their superiority and the "doesn't bother me" attitude.

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On the contrary. I spent a big chunk of my formative years in Yorkshire and until a few years ago regularly worked in London. I have English family and friends all over the country and I remember watching the Scotland v England match at Euro 96 in a pub full of English fans while wearing a Scotland shirt. The only Scotland/England football-related 'bother' I've ever had in all those years was from a couple of drunken boneheads at a wedding in Hampshire. Based on my own experiences I'd be very surprised England fans weren't by and large more supportive of Scotland than we are of England were we ever to be in a position to achieve something.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Two.

Liechenstein:wink:

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why did we boo that one ?, i honestly can't recall





aah, just googled, 2010, every days a skool day, i see also the American de facto anthem before star-spangled banner "My country, 'Tis of thee" though i'm sure i've heard that one before and was quite baffled at the time without there being a google back in that day to satisfy my curiosity

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Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee

It’s fully understandable and works both ways, I revel in our success and your failure without getting upset 😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

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Absolutely it's only football nothing too important or as Arrigo Sacchi said football is the most important of the least important things in life :greengrin

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

and yet it's the English FA that have been charged for the booing of the Danish anthem last night(along with the laser incident and one other) the only football authorities to do so this tournament, i think england fans have actually booed every nations anthem, as for the Scotland game at wembley do you think maybe the Scotland fans booing would have been a tad muted if our own national anthem hadn't been booed firstly ? still, at least Scotland fans don't boo every/ANY other countries national anthem, just the one.. strange that

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Yep English fans have booed every team they have played in this tournament. Pathetic it isn't mentioned, embarrassing and people are surprised people want them to lose.

I dinnae mind another countries fans booing our anthem.

Nae reason to get upset.

They even cheered at the wee German girl who was greetin after England scored against Germany

Low life’s :greengrin

Tokyo next for these two



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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

Tokyo next for these two



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Pair of cheating khantz and have been for years but the referees and national associations who don't have the cahonies to punish them are even worse. They are enabling the cheating.

Never mind the diving. Play should have been called back because there were 2 balls on the park at the same time.

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Originally Posted by DH1875

Never mind the diving. Play should have been called back because there were 2 balls on the park at the same time.

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Yep. Although Denmark goal shouldn't have stood because of rules with the wall and free kicks now.

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Originally Posted by One Day Soon

Wow, the levels of bitter from some about this England result are staggering and very, very revealing. There's a spectrum across most of social media all the way from fair play to them you can only beat what's in front of you through to pretty much pus-filled hatred and literally just making stuff up - and everything in between.

It was a very soft penalty, I don't think it was one at all in fact. The Kane claim earlier in the game was stronger. However for the majority of that game they were certainly the more likely side. I think its a pretty uninspiring style of football - reminds me of the German approach in fact - with Denmark being the stiffest test they've had so far and yet the Danes, particularly without Eriksen, looked knackered well before full time.

Lots of games at home, an easier side to the draw, no major opponents yet and the final at a full or near full Wembley. Sometimes its written in the stars and if you take all your chances then you deserve to be champions. All the whining in the world about how they did it in those circumstances just comes across as chip-on-shoulder sour grapes.

But they still have to get past Italy who for my money have already played two finals and come out on top despite facing two very different tests. If Italy show up I expect them to win. If Italy show up and England still win then they will have deserved it. If England are going to win a major tournament I'll be pleased it's with that manager and that group of players who are a credit to themselves and their country in ways that most previous managers and squads simply were not.

It has been an outstanding finals. Whatever happens they've had a great tournament. I wish we had too. We need to do better.

And Sam Matterface is a horse's arse throwback who makes it hard to wish England well. Many English fans clearly feel that too.

Forza Azzurri.

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Spot on.

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Originally Posted by One Day Soon

Wow, the levels of bitter from some about this England result are staggering and very, very revealing. There's a spectrum across most of social media all the way from fair play to them you can only beat what's in front of you through to pretty much pus-filled hatred and literally just making stuff up - and everything in between.

It was a very soft penalty, I don't think it was one at all in fact. The Kane claim earlier in the game was stronger. However for the majority of that game they were certainly the more likely side. I think its a pretty uninspiring style of football - reminds me of the German approach in fact - with Denmark being the stiffest test they've had so far and yet the Danes, particularly without Eriksen, looked knackered well before full time.

Lots of games at home, an easier side to the draw, no major opponents yet and the final at a full or near full Wembley. Sometimes its written in the stars and if you take all your chances then you deserve to be champions. All the whining in the world about how they did it in those circumstances just comes across as chip-on-shoulder sour grapes.

But they still have to get past Italy who for my money have already played two finals and come out on top despite facing two very different tests. If Italy show up I expect them to win. If Italy show up and England still win then they will have deserved it. If England are going to win a major tournament I'll be pleased it's with that manager and that group of players who are a credit to themselves and their country in ways that most previous managers and squads simply were not.

It has been an outstanding finals. Whatever happens they've had a great tournament. I wish we had too. We need to do better.

And Sam Matterface is a horse's arse throwback who makes it hard to wish England well. Many English fans clearly feel that too.

Forza Azzurri.

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I actually quite like this England squad and Southgate. Like you said, if they win it then they’ll deserve it and I wouldn’t begrudge a single player in that squad their win, something you probably couldn’t have said about England squads of old.

That being said, I still hope they lose. If they win though, I really can’t say I’d be all that bothered.

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Originally Posted by He's here!

No doubt about the connection between team and fans last night. Whether it's partly down to a kind of post-lockdown exuberance I don't know, but it seems better, more wholesome somehow, than previous occasions like Euro 96. The youthfulness of the players plus the likeability of Southgate seems to be a big factor too.

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‘Wholesome’? Hmm, personally I’m not so sure. Plenty of attitudes like this around, which is more prevalent in everyday English political culture than Scottish. I don’t think that’s debatable anymore.

John Redwood MP tweeting ‘Brilliant England win. Great for the UK. Great for the most ignored and understated country in our Union. Even the BBC has to mention England today.’

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

‘Wholesome’? Hmm, personally I’m not so sure. Plenty of attitudes like this around, which is more prevalent in everyday English political culture than Scottish. I don’t think that’s debatable anymore.

John Redwood MP tweeting ‘Brilliant England win. Great for the UK. Great for the most ignored and understated country in our Union. Even the BBC has to mention England today.’

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Redwood is a truly terrible human being and has probably never watched a football match in his life.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

‘Wholesome’? Hmm, personally I’m not so sure. Plenty of attitudes like this around, which is more prevalent in everyday English political culture than Scottish. I don’t think that’s debatable anymore.

John Redwood MP tweeting ‘Brilliant England win. Great for the UK. Great for the most ignored and understated country in our Union. Even the BBC has to mention England today.’

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Got to be said how anyone can say England is an understated country is truly delusional

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

Got to be said how anyone can say England is an understated country is truly delusional

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British reserve, sir. Stiff upper lip; accept your lot and battle on; don't feel emotion and don't complain.

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Originally Posted by GreenCastle

I agree with some of what your saying about culture in Scotland.

England have changed their footballing culture - while we are still trying to figure out what ours is.

I wouldn’t say England have fixed this problem in society though - I think that’s a deeper discussion.

Correct me if I’m wrong but did Scotland fans not boo God save the Queen anthem at Wembley ?

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England can easily plaster over poor diet and culture with the money being thrown around. The amount of astro pitches etc. that have been put around the place compared to in Scotland is crazy.

Poor diet and poverty without adequate facilities for sport and exercise is a recipe for disaster and disease. Gyms are more common now but I don't think astros and pitches are. Prices are not getting cheaper either. Sponsors and broadcasters throwing billions at England obviously makes providing cheap, or free, facilities a much much easier proposition.

Give kids more facilities and more (better) coaching, and probably counselling/pastoral care for free plus generally encouraging more enjoyment in playing sports and you'll easily find and cultivate a sporting culture.

England and Scotland will almost certainly always boo each other's anthems as they are. I wouldn't expect either should boo another nation's anthem though.

I dont mind the stuff about 55 years since a cup final and them being happy about that, what sticks in the throat is them peddling the myth that they are the only country that has suffered through this pandemic and because of this they deserve to win it.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Yep. Although Denmark goal shouldn't have stood because of rules with the wall and free kicks now.

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The wall was well over 1m away from the main English wall.

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Originally Posted by percy veer

I dont mind the stuff about 55 years since a cup final and them being happy about that, what sticks in the throat is them peddling the myth that they are the only country that has suffered through this pandemic and because of this they deserve to win it.

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I said the same to my Mrs. there is a complete lack of awareness from the commentators.

For a country the size of England they have a terrible record in major tournaments only two finals and only a handful of semi finals. They should be up there with Italy and Germany in the Euros.
It will be a bit late being a 8.00pm kick off for Denis Law to be playing golf.

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Originally Posted by One Day Soon

Wow, the levels of bitter from some about this England result are staggering and very, very revealing. There's a spectrum across most of social media all the way from fair play to them you can only beat what's in front of you through to pretty much pus-filled hatred and literally just making stuff up - and everything in between.

It was a very soft penalty, I don't think it was one at all in fact. The Kane claim earlier in the game was stronger. However for the majority of that game they were certainly the more likely side. I think its a pretty uninspiring style of football - reminds me of the German approach in fact - with Denmark being the stiffest test they've had so far and yet the Danes, particularly without Eriksen, looked knackered well before full time.

Lots of games at home, an easier side to the draw, no major opponents yet and the final at a full or near full Wembley. Sometimes its written in the stars and if you take all your chances then you deserve to be champions. All the whining in the world about how they did it in those circumstances just comes across as chip-on-shoulder sour grapes.

But they still have to get past Italy who for my money have already played two finals and come out on top despite facing two very different tests. If Italy show up I expect them to win. If Italy show up and England still win then they will have deserved it. If England are going to win a major tournament I'll be pleased it's with that manager and that group of players who are a credit to themselves and their country in ways that most previous managers and squads simply were not.

It has been an outstanding finals. Whatever happens they've had a great tournament. I wish we had too. We need to do better.

And Sam Matterface is a horse's arse throwback who makes it hard to wish England well. Many English fans clearly feel that too.

Forza Azzurri.

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That's it in a nutshell. The England-sized chip on the shoulder many Scots seem to carry around is the sort of thing the SNP feed off.

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Originally Posted by He's here!

That's it in a nutshell. The England-sized chip on the shoulder many Scots seem to carry around is the sort of thing the SNP feed off.

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Lol. Right.

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Originally Posted by He's here!

That's it in a nutshell. The England-sized chip on the shoulder many Scots seem to carry around is the sort of thing the SNP feed off.

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But up here, there is no equivalent of Sir Jock Redwood spouting his paranoid dysfunctional nationalism in public life, that’s the difference.