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Jim, not necessarily so. They can leave if they and their agents/lawyers are fully sure of the law on this matter. Then it is up to Green to take them to court and try and prove to a judge his alternative version of reality. As a former trade union rep. I believe Green is in the wrong and the players are in the right.
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Originally Posted by Jim44
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Originally Posted by grunt
It wouldn't, for the simple fact that Scottish football doesn't sell English newspapers. Ask yourself how much coverage English League 2 and/or Conference football gets in the Scottish press. It's a similar scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave-0762
FWIW - The Times ran with a DPS in their sports section this week looking at RFC and how HMRC are clamping down on clubs evasion of tax. It was [allegedly] penned by Gabriale Marcotti and it was a complete waste of column inches. It was no more than a cut and paste from stories that have appeared in the Scottish media.
I do not see that entry to SFL1 is a real possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lungo--Drom
It requires a majority of two thirds of all SFL clubs to suspend the rules. To restructure requires a years' notice and a 75% majority.
I can't see the SFL1 clubs being too keen on this as it would eliminate the chance of any of them being promoted. It also increases the relegationprospects for the bottom teams because Rangers will be included at the expense of Aidrie United.
Admitting Rangers to SFL1 will also deny promotion to Airdrie United and Stranraer.
The SFL3 clubs will obviously have a preference for Rangers to come into SF3 rather than SFL1.
If Rangers are not careful they will be playing nowhere next season.
It is all bluster from Green. The players (or rather the best of them) will walk and Green will do nothing. As soon as he takes legal advice they will tell him to forget it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
McMoist trying to whip the maggot-folk into a frenzy again. Irresponsible ****.
https://twitter.com/bbcsportsound/st...06148323475456
Green is correct. The contracts will have transferred under TUPE. Players have to object to the TUPE transfer before the TUPE transfer happens, i.e. before the day Green bought the assets for £5.5m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Wishart is also correct. Under TUPE regs, consultation (at least 90 days) must take place with "in-scope" employees prior to the TUPE transfer. Very doubtful that happened here. If due consultation does not take place, then an employment tribunal will find in favour of the employee.
Both parties are therefore correct - just Wishart more so than Green. :greengrin
Is that last part about bouncey true?!Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
**** sake.
There he goes again, looking for honesty and transparency, its funny how he only wants it for some things, but not anything to do with telling the truth or trivial things like EBT'sQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
NO SURRENDER
"The transfer of contracts has already happened and the club's clear legal advice is that players' purported objection is ineffective. - McCoist
Oh really! This will be fun to watch unfolding .... :greengrin
I think it depends on who you ask :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by VickMackie
[QUOTE=blackpoolhibs;3272592]There he goes again, looking for honesty and transparency, its funny how he only wants it for some things, but not anything to do with telling the truth or trivial things like EBT's
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They just keep digging deeper don't they? Having already alienated pretty much everyone and everything else thus far with their lack of remorse and "it wisnae us" attitude, they are now issuing comms which are sure to get them offside with their own players. Bonkers but hilarious. Bye bye huns. :bye:
Would love to know who their Employment Lawyers are....Quote:
Originally Posted by LeithenHibby
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Originally Posted by LeithenHibby
Comments of this ilk from Sally & Greene are akin to a Press Gang (no pun intended).
I can imagine the players in question will be feeling much the same way as the rest of us these days.
The tone of these "Thou shalt's" certainly wouldn't entice me to stay and be loyal given the choice.
Kevin Kyle on sportsound just now, he's a fanny. :rolleyes:
Collyer Bristow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Offside Trap
There are folk out there who claim the Rangers fans sing Penny Arcade, because of a spurious 20 word news clipping about a Catholic who was murdered in an amusement arcade in Northern Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by VickMackie
Both of these rumours - Penny Arcade and The Bouncy - are absolute tosh according to some pretty level headed (i.e. want them to go down to the SPL and start again) Hun mates.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Story So Far...
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Originally Posted by jgl07
Nothing would surprise....and I bet their fee is approx £25m.....:greengrin
perfect illustration of how less intelligent most football players are than many football fans...Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Always beware of apparently sensible Rangers Fans. They will tell you that 'they are only folk songs'.Quote:
Originally Posted by lyonhibs
Don't believe a word of it.
:agree: All depends on who you ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by lyonhibs
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Originally Posted by lyonhibs
I don't know if it's just a Celtic fan's need to find a victim angle in everything relative to Rangers or not.
"You put your left foot in, your left foot out, in-out, in-out, shake it all about..."
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What the Hell kind of statement is that exactly? Let's break a couple of things down -
"He said: "It has been reported that a couple of players have indicated they want to challenge the transfer of their contracts. This is news to me and no player has spoken to me about it."
How'sabout picking up the phone and asking them then, rather than immediately going on the offensive. Or have they already told you and you're just telling wee fibs again. Because...
"At all times during my first year as manager, I strived to show players respect and in return would have hoped they would have shown me, and more importantly the club, respect by notifying us of their intentions before making it known elsewhere.
...Would suggest you know the reports to be correct and factual.
"Players have their own decisions to make and I understand that, but the question they have to ask themselves is do they want to play for Rangers or not?
Haven't they made that decision, isn't that the point?
"The formation of a new company is not the issue. The players would be playing for the same club - Rangers - in front of the same fans.
Same club, same fans, but none of that other clubs debt though, eh Ally?
"If players want to leave and play somewhere else then they should be honest with the Rangers supporters.
Who's not being honest?
"After all that the club and the fans have gone through, the supporters, above all, deserve the truth and should not have to listen to stories trying to sugar-coat the possible departure of players from the club.
They deserve all they get if they want to leave, is that it? They are turncoats traitors?
"The players were magnificent last season and made great sacrifices and that will never be forgotten.
Unless they leave, then Hell mend them.
It will when they are due paid.............and their new employer does not even have a Bank...:whistle:Quote:
Originally Posted by LeithenHibby
They will probably blame it on the Nat West/RBS meltdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
Over on Samaritans.com it would appear that they think demotion to the 1st Div. is a done deal. They even consider themselves to be in a position of strength in a negotiating situation vis a vis the Daily Record report on the 'secret meeting'. Maybe they didn't hear today's Sportsound where an SFL chairman reckoned they probably wouldn't get the 75% vote from SFL clubs.
The same people were telling us a few weeks back that the Blue Knights would take over Rangers and that HMRC and Ticketus were happy to go along with a CVA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Not read through this to find out, but some huns saying they might be going to Divison 1 instead? Also there will be a 'Glasgow Cup'? Again it's just all about the television money, what about the division 1 teams who have a chance at promotion!? I don't believe it but it's what i have heard. Getting really tired of hearing all this rubbish, just want them gone. Really not in the mood for Scottish football at all at the moment, it's never about the actual football.
I know I shouldn't go there but some of the content on Kerrydale Street just now is priceless. Dicussing Jim Traynor:
where is Traynor btw?
haven't heard his jowls flapping on the radio recently.
He's under a duvet, in a darkened room, in his rainjurs jammies.
Hugging his teddy bears teddy bear.
Surrounded by tear stained pictures of Moonbeams unfurling the league flag.
A dvd of the 9in a row on constant playback on the telly. A big jobby in his jammie bottoms. The only thing offering warmth.
Sobbing softly to himself like a wounded animal whilst mumbling,"lies, its all lies".
Deep down he knows the game is up.
No more succulent lamb or fine reds for the bold James.
Awful sad. :faf:
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Could Motherwell do a U Turn? . Here
It appears that Secvo 5088 will have to pick a new name distict fom Rangers FC if they ever manage to find a League that will have them.
Darlington are currently considering a new name:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18557300
Can't be that difficult to pick a new name.Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
Darlington Town/City? (Simples)
Darlington Phoenix? (Rising from the ashes)
Darlington Tuesday? (a-la Sheff Wed.)
Darlington Club 12? ...........etc
An unholy mess......
http://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com/
Govan Dodgers is my favouriteQuote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
I think it was Green wot said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeithenHibby
It makes things clear that the purchase of the assets of Rangers FC by Sevco 5088 is being funded by the season ticket purchasers. Why else is season ticket money going into the Oldco's bank account? This cash can only be accessed by Duff and Phelps (to pay their fee) and creditors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
All very murky indeed.
I prefer the Govan Steelers :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by joe breezy
Would anyone take Aluko at Easter Road?
Decent player, suspect wages would be a tad high, for us to consider him.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mainboy19
Sure, there are usually plenty of spare seats around, shouldn't be too hard to get him a ticket to watch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mainboy19
Latest from Paul McConville regards the TUPE position and the bizarre stakeholder management strategy from Green/Sally. Completely on the money.
http://t.co/oUb3y2Fw
ahead of the big vote everyone except rangers has a meeting
doncaster is there up to his usual tricks
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he looks for support in the teams who havent announced yet
he asks ICT
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he asks motherwell
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he asks hearts to reconsider
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Darlington County (Bruce Springsteen)?!Quote:
Originally Posted by snooky
Jane Lewis@JaneLewisSportSFA, SPL and SFL confirm talks have taken place re. league reconstruction. Consultation with all clubs 2 now take place
If the spl, sfa etc re structure to allow angers into anything but the bottom league it just proves that the authorities are corrupt. They wouldn't re write rules, re structure leagues if this was any other club. Rangers should be kicked out and made to apply to the sfl. The sfl should then follow all their rules and weigh up the application against all others. Allowing rangers to go into division 1 / spl2 is only slightly better than them being voted into the spl, but still very wrong!
The predictable self-pity of the Huns is beneath contempt. How dare they suggest in the media and on fans forums they are being victimised because they're the 'pyoor deid brilliant Gers an rat'.
Have they forgotten Livingston's fate or that of Dundee? Those clubs weren't liquidated yet were hammered. What the Rangers fans mean is that they should be above the law and that any attempt to sanction them for their plight is merely vindictiveness driven by envy. Erm, no, it's because the arrogance they displayed for the rules in the past amounted to gross criminality and cheating, and clearly their arrogance remains.
http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/2823858
Aberdeen fan votes 82.7% n oto newco
Sounds very much like the daily record story which sky have rubbished completely, not to mention why would they give such a groundbreaking story to a rival.Quote:
Originally Posted by fit o' the walk
I have no doubts sky are keeping a close eye on things, but active involvement? I'd be very surprised at that. A company that turned a profit of circa 1 billion pounds last year, very successfully run, just signed a deal to pay multiple billions to the EPL, won't be bending over backwards for a deal which is worth 80 million outlay, and hasn't even been signed yet.
I thought Alex Thomson had been a bit quiet recently, but lo and behold he's back with THIS Whether the neandertals listen is another question.
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Originally Posted by s.a.m
(I trust that wasn't a typo)
I have always looked on this situation as a Golden chance for the non OF clubs to restore some financial parity to the Scottish game. Its also a chance to get rid of the rediculous notions that ...... A ) We need the OF to survive and ..... B ) We cant have a bigger league.
This is what we should be aiming for:
A 14 or 16 club SPL with play offs ....... 3 Up 3 down.
A fair voting system which negates forever the notion that ANY club ( or two clubs ) can dictate to the rest.
An even distribution of TV money ... the TV deals are not negotiated by the OF the are negotaited by the SPL for the SPL.
If we get that I wont give a rats ass where the newco end up ... As long as its not the SPL. A change to a bigger league will also give Falkirk etc a fair crack at promotion even with a newco in the 1st division.
The great Italian match fixing scandal in the middle of the last decade ended with the following sanctions:
JUVENTUS ..... Relegated to the second division, deducted 30 points for the following season and stripped of 2 titles.
FOIRENTINA ... Relegated to the second division and deducted 12 points for the following season.
LAZIO ..... Relegated to the second division and deducted 7 points for the following season.
A.C. MILAN .. Deducted 44 points for the current season and 15 for the following season.
The Juventus punishment would be the one to hand out to newco rangers, if relegation to div 3 isnt on the table. I for one would be more than happy with that.
But reading some of the posts on here, it appears we have now moved from 'we must punish rangers' to 'we must get rid of rangers, in any form' with some folk saying ( or at least it appears that way ) that they wont be back to Scottish football if they are allowed to survive.
Hell .... nobody hates the current buns more than me ... but extinction, to the extent that even a newco cant be allowed to exist, so that I can hate them all over again ..... sorry, not for me.
I like a fannyQuote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
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Originally Posted by BOVRIL
Its not all about wanting them extinct, it's about the authorities following their own rules and not changing them to suit one club. Would this happen if it were hibs? I don't think so. The situation as it stands is a mess, and there is still more to come. Right now it seems the authorities are looking at ways to get round their own rules, to lessen the punishment, and in the end there could be more revelations about how rangers have cheated their way to success.
I added this to Facebook and a hun asked "why?" HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Bighoose
Do I really have to answer that!
I agree with you to an extent. But it looks now like a lot of clubs are prepared to do what for them was unthinkable a few weeks ago and for many of them it will be a big sacrifice. As I said .. I could care less where the newco start next season .. if its the 3rd division then great.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs13681
If its the 1st division, but we get the other changes we want, then thats a compromise I for one can live with.
But for some folk even the 3rd division doesnt appear to be good enough and they are talking about chucking it. IMO thats going too far.
17.3% hun infiltratorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Brando7
Where's the info about Aluko?
Rangers should be in the 3rd division. They shouldn't get put into the first or have reconstruction to let them slither in.
If leagues are increased etc it should be clubs being moved up. Not slotted in.
Why does there need to be a compromise?????Quote:
Originally Posted by BOVRIL
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I don't know? There is a compromise between banning them for one year and banning them 'sine die'!Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
I totally agree any reform for the better of scottish football will be able to happen now the biggoted brother cant veto everything but many are now saying that if we ge tthe changes then it will be ok for "the rangers" to start in div1.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
1. no the bloody shouldnt as no one else would be allowed
2 you cant have a little sporting integrity you either follow the current rules or you dont
Compromise ? Explain ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BOVRIL
It's 3rd Division minimum - no compromise there for the cheats.
The league restructuring is a side topic that just happens to be talked about at the same time all this mess with newco is unfolding and damaging the game in Scotland.
I dont mind compromise as long as its a new company applying to join the SFL, and any new company/team has to apply to join at the bottom.
Just follow the ****in rules you useless bunch of pricks.
yes, I would have taken him before he was at Rangers, and the same now, he seems a lot more consistent than he was at Aberdeen now too. But wages will probably rule out any move for us to get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mainboy19
I hate how the huns are saying they need to stay because Scottish football needs the money, saying its all about the money. It shouldn't be, if Scottish football was just about teams getting money, then what would be the point. It's about the traditional game of FOOTBALL!
Doing my head in, dunno why i am letting it get to me. Please just let them die!
3rd Div fur Newco at the very least. They would still have go be accepted/voted in. If they were to be put in DIV 1 the Livi/Dundee will take legal action against the SFL re the situation.
Get them tae ****. Hate the bigoted ****ers
I agree with you. However, I was told tonight by an SPL Chairman that Division 1 is the most likely penalty for Rangers along with a transfer embargo. A key factor for placement in Division 1 is that 3rd Division clubs do not have the infrastructure to cope with the volume of Rangers fans likely to attend games and would create stewarding and policing issues. Seems a lame excuse to me:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Hibee
Which we all know is complete nonsense, they are drawn against these clubs most seasons in the cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
But how do they manage to place them there within established rules and procedures?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
Surely since the rule book states this can't be done then all it would take is someone like Falkirk to take it to court ala Rangers transfer ban and it all goes belly up
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Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
How come these same clubs manage perfectly well when it's a cup game ?
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I think the campaign for supporters of the other 11 SPL clubs should now shift from 'No to Rangers in the SPL' to 'Rangers to the 3rd Division'.
I mean a compromise as far as I am concerned. I dont really care if the new rangers end up in the 3rd division or the highland league or the Glasgow pub league.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
But I as a Scottish football fan could live with it if they ended up in division 1 with hopefully a hefty points deduction. My main concern is to see the changes we have all wanted for years now take place.
Nobody ( least of all me ) is under any illusion that the things being talked about now by the SFA / SPL would have just been a pipe dream, to me thats what counts now .. just so long a rangers do get punished.
Surely the SPL can't tell the SFL where RFC should play next season. They can only eject them from the SPL.
It just means every away game has to be all-ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonHFC
Even Queens Park?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
I've thought from the start that rangers in the third would allow them to apologise to every club in Scottish football on the way up and bring money to each club in turn.... However I have in my desk a sealed brown envelope containing an attractive proposal from Forres mechanics ....:-)
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Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
Utter slavers.
Rangers will have people in right places to ensure they aren't hammered too much.
Folks like Jim McInally doing a grand job of trying to save the Huns from proper punishment in the tabloid press. What is it these ex-footballler's can't see that we can all see? FFS!
An SPL Chairman would have no say in the matter. The SPL have missed the chance to relegate Rangers.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
Now they can only expell them from the SPL. It is then a matter for the SFL and the SFA to sort out.
We all know that most SPL Chairmen would have loved to keep Rangers but the issue has been forced by the supporters.
I suspect that there is going to be a similar reaction in Division One. Partick Thistle have already threatened a boycott if Rangers are admitted. Falkirk have come out against. We already know John Yorkston's views.
In any event Division One club have no financial interest in getting Rangers back to the SPL in one year. The top teams will see Rangers as blocking the path to promotion for themselves. The bottom teams will see their prospects of avoiding relegation diminish since Aidrie United will not be promoted.
The Second and Third Division teams will probably want a share of the action so would hardly vote to let Rangers by-pass their Divisions.
A two-thirds (or three-quarters) majority will be required.
Not a hope that this will happen. More wishful thinking from the forces of darkness.
If the SFA, the SPL and the SFL have held a meeting for over 6 hours yesterday you can bet your bottom dollar that some backroom deals have been getting done, "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours".Quote:
Originally Posted by Geo_1875
All the authorities need to do now is bribe enough clubs in to accepting it.
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Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
Correct. Sensible reasoning. Their squirming for any kind of sanction that doesn't result in SFL 3 is pathetic. They will try every excuse and tactic in the book.......oh, but if it were any other club their tune would be different.Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
What happens if Rangers have a terrible season in division 1, and finished bottom of the league? Would there be another restructuring of that league to keep them up?:confused:
A ballpark figure for hun away supporters at an SPL match is, say, 4 to 5 thousand. The average ground capacity of SFL Div 3 grounds is around 3 to 4 thousand (some are bigger). These clubs will rarely get more than 1000 turning up. That means that an allocation of around 2.5 thousand tickets to the huns(around half they would get for an SPL game) could be made. Given that the number of huns travelling to these grounds will decrease, this seems a reasonable allocation to me. It is far from perfect but viable. That is off the top of my head and, I'm sure, could be challenged but I don't think it's way off the mark. Twice a year they would have to get their act together for policing and stewarding but it's hardly rocket science.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
If you really met a chairman and his view is correct - Scottish Football will have dug it's own grave and they will bring a slow death to the domestic game up here during the near future.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
The way forward -
Announce re-structuring - All under the Scottish Premier Football League (SPFL)
SPL 1 - 16 Teams - play each other twice a season (get rid of split!!)
SPL 2 - 16 Teams - play each other twice a season
SPL 3 - 14 / 16 teams - play each other twice a season ( teams from around the country enter which have the correct and proper facilities).
Pyramid system below that - Regionalised - playoff type system to get into SPL 3 if a team wants to go that way.
The SFL are the stumbling block as other posters have suggested but if the SFA, SPL and Sky TV want Rangers in Div 1 then it may well happen. A redistribution of TV cash amongst all SFL clubs may be the bargaining chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Well if the transfer embargo is upheld and mot of their stars walk, it is not impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
They said every away game...:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
Rightly or wrongly, the SFA/SPL view may be that if Rangers are out of the SPL for 3 years Scottish football is sunk which is maybe why they are so desperate to get them into Div 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Hibee
Well this is the problem - like many of the media myths being published daily. The chances are the SPL will grow with closer and more fair competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
Why will it sink ? Money ? This is the other problem with the game in Scotland - so reliant on the money. Live within the your means and you won't get another Rangers situation. The game here is controlled too much by the money people and if they want to re-grow the product they should think more about the fans and make it value for money to attend games and not expect people to pay EPL prices for a far inferior product.
Remember it's the backlash the SFA / SPL should be worried about as the majority of local Scottish clubs are on the edge right now - one bad move next and it's curtains - a fair punishment to Rangers and at least the football authorities have acted correctly and we can move on restructuring the leagues to make them competitive and fair both on and off the pitch (if we get any money from sponsors).
Nearly a million posts on this thread now, as far as i'm concerned i only care about the hibs, rangers cheated their way to many titles and now they've been caught out, anyone in the sfa or ex players who can't get a real job and talk drivel in our dreadfully biased press for a few sheckles are just as much to blame for the downfall of scottish football. A nation of jokers!! embarrassing as it may be we all know it. This is a great opportunity to redress the balance between business and football, how dare the powers at be threaten clubs outside the OF with scaremongering regarding tv deals, television has nearly killed our game!!!!. I buy a season ticket every year yet give up a lot of it due to re-scheduling because we roll over for telly rights.
Our once great game is not only a laughing stock but solely reliant on **** dictating tv schedules.
GOODBYE RFC YOUR TIIME IS OVER
BRING BACK 3PM SATURDAY KICK OFF
BRING THROUGH THE YOUTH
WE ARE ALREADY A LAUGHING STOCK SO FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES HAVE TO BE MADE THROUGHOUT SCOTLAND.
FOOTBALL IS MASSIVE IN SCOTLAND, AS A SPORT FIRST, THEN A BUSINESS.
F MONEY
F PUNDITS
F MEDIA
OH, AND FTHMFC
A NATION OF JUST OVER 5 MILLION WE HAVE MORE EXPERTS ON THE GAME THAN SOME COUNTRIES 10 TIMES OUR SIZE!!!!
ALAN HANSEN GTF!
GOOD LUCK PAT, I'LL BE THERE!!!
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I'm glad you're not my accountant! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Halifaxhibby
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Originally Posted by hibbyradge
eh? Over 900,000 posts?
If they feel that division 3 can't cope with them they should be taking cognisance of that fact when they are inviting applications for the vacant spot. That should mean that they vote someone in that the infrastructure can cope with, not just invent some rule to benefit the Huns and ensure they can keep their own snouts in the trough into the bargain.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
This proposed fudge will have the same detrimental effect on the perception of integrity, or lack of, in Scottish football and probably ensure that many punters, myself included, are lost to the game.
This is post number 13,292Quote:
Originally Posted by Halifaxhibby
900,000 views....13,000 replies...still pretty good...the entire thread should be published once its all over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halifaxhibby
sorry my mistake,but you get my drift!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
wish i had the time to pick over every post(is that right?) effing shattered, working 12 hours and 2 kids to put to bed.
thank you mr pedant.
Only 13500 according to my PC. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Halifaxhibby