Where does she say that “Danny’s waving goodbye”, or is their a longer version on SkyQuote:
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Where does she say that “Danny’s waving goodbye”, or is their a longer version on SkyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
"Daniel made it clear to us when he joined us he didnt want to be managing in the Scottish Championship". That's enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Wasn’t there talk of a payment to him if they went down? I may have imagined this.
She's idiotic. If someone told me that I'd ask them to either email me a copy of the clause or tell me which clause and I'd look it up myself. She's got a cheek criticising part-time clubs when every hour is amateur hour with her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Left Peg
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Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Must have been a 2 parter, she has so much to talk about
Not sure about that, but this was a quote taken from an article 4 days ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
The former Barnsley boss said: “At the moment I have no contract in the Championship, where Hearts could play next season, but I will speak with Ann [Budge] in the next few days when the decision is over."
Panoramic windaes looking out on....a big effing hedge! 🤣🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
The Gillette offer is probably the best old Ann could get ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
GGTTH
Naw naw, that's the same castle view that you get from Tynie......Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudds_1
Does she live in Brechin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudds_1
Some razor sharp wit on display today on .net......Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaststand
She's so frustrated with the uncertainty she's created :greengrin She doesn't have a clue what she's doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
That's where I am at the moment. They are a laughing stock but that's usual, they are now making the rest of Scottish football the same. Just **** off you bunch of self absorbed, egotistical bellends. Every ****ing last one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
I've asked this before but didn't get a satisfactory answer. Why do we think Benny went away? B contributed £3.25m in the year to June 2019. We wont know about 19/20 for a long time yet so where did the info come from? Not picking on you, just the most recent comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
Didnt know she lived in Brechin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudds_1
Budge sounds like she has been on the vino before that interview.
But it’s classic Budge..rambling half sentence incoherent nonsense.
And clearly she is now well aware that her ‘proposal’ has zero chance of passing a vote so now she is busy denigrating the voting system and imploring the board to take over and impose a restructuring....
So they HAVE to turn down offers from outside investment?
😂 **** me it just gets better and better
I said to a Jambo mate that hearts would have had input and agreed to the league rules as a league member. This received an "aye but...."Quote:
Originally Posted by Estupendo
Even told him about budge saying the league was too big and that she wanted half that. That was met with "she's allowed to change her mind"
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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
She seems a bit confused. Keeping her in the public eye like this is starting to look like cruelty.
No we know where the much vaunted Glass Curtain Wall went and why Tiny looks like a library. Bet you the roof even keeps the rain out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Apparently relegating then would be a restriction on trade and the compo would be astronomical 😂😂😂
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Originally Posted by calumhibee1
I’m also concerned at the shady lawyers who are fleecing Budge for advice like this. She seems quite vulnerable.
So she is now saying the voting system in the SPFL is not fit for purpose, why, because she knows what’s coming.
Let’s just get this tedious affair done and dusted and we can move into the next episode.
She really died think that she is the messiah and what she says goes.
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I do hope Barnsley cone calling for the compensation before Daniel waves them goodbye. That would be embarrassing paying comp for someone who wasn’t there. :greengrin
I genuinely worry for her welfare, she seems to have fallen entirely off her rocker.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
No, it's Dave
Love it Eaststand! Sharp as a razor....Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaststand
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Originally Posted by Aldo
The voting system is a stitch up - everyone knows that. It is designed to preserve the status quo, ie the dominant position of the Ugly Sisters in scottish football.
But Budge sat on the SPFL board. So when did she propose changing the voting system?
Other club chairmen are seeing right through her. This is pure self-interest and nothing else.
She’s not the messiah, she’s a very naughty girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
That as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
The silence from the other clubs (I hope) says it all!
It’s a bit like reconstruction... never mentioned until they were in the keek!
I’m sooooo glad she’s not in charge of our club!
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This whole episode has confirmed what I already knew about what a skeekit club Hearts are and makes me thank my lucky stars my dad was a Hibby
This clause she mentions (emergency situation where board can overturn vote) does anyone know whether it exists?
The rules are online but I couldn’t find anything, although not sure if I was looking in right place!
I find it unbelievable that a club chairperson would refer to it in a media interview without checking its existence.
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Budge is all over the place. Changes her tune on loads of stuff depending on who she’s trying to influence. For instance - are they minted or are they skint?
She can't very well spend weeks bleating about integrity only to then pin her hopes on a democratic vote getting slapped down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief
What next for Ann if/when another catastrophic reconstruction plan fails on Monday?
But you know deep down this will have been explored and if there is a glimmer she will be all over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
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Did she mention why she didnt call clubs for feedback before releasing the plan?
I assume it’s because she thinks these other clubs are beneath her.
To me it looks like there is an appetite for reconstruction on some level but her refusal to listen and engage in proper discussions with all parties has cost her club.
Does this give you a clueQuote:
Originally Posted by Since452
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...pools-16900099
Sounds like a perfect fit for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMurdoch
Shouldn’t Anne be in self isolation due to her age? 😂
Don't mean to be to an auld radge wifie, but.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
What an auld radge.
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If the SPFL have such a rule it wont be to overrule democratic votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief
The clubs live and die by democracy.
It will most likely be there to sort out emergency situations.
Like organising quick votes to end the season.
You see Ann. The SPFL board have already dealt with this emergency situation.
I've been quite angry/incredulous about this whole sorry issue, but I'm now genuinely worrying about Ann's welfare. The statements have been becoming more erratic, and that interview... Well, I don't think she's OK.
Either she is Benny and she's gone in way too deep and is now totally panicking, or she needs some medical help.
All in my opinion of course.
The latest plan will be jettisoned tomorrow or Monday, and I hope she has a good support network around her, as I fear it's not going to be pretty.
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Originally Posted by McS****y
I think this is very possible.
She might even need to offload the yacht (or whatever share she has in it).
Ive thought that for a while as well. I don't know the financial ins and outs of it but why would anyone just hand over £Ms for no return what do ever, not a seat in the board, not a bunch of shares, not even a mention. If it is her I think she will be realising that she is in a total **** show with no chance of recouping that money when they go tits up. Big ego leading to big spending to stand still leading to big losses leading to big disaster. That is my hope anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
I think that must be it, without being told to the contrary Budge is the Benefactor...wow some benevolence for no actual control...totally explains why transfer of ownership has not happened!Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Apologies,not really been paying much attention to the Hertz circus, but am I correct in thinking that Queen B is looking for a way out, hence the interest in buying the club. From the BBC:
Hearts have rejected a takeover bid from the son of former Liverpool owner George Gillett, says chair Ann Budge.
Foster Gillett, who was on the board at Anfield, confirmed to BBC Scotland an email was sent on his behalf last week "regarding potential investment".
But he says no formal offer was made and there has been "no response" from the club or the Foundation of Hearts.
"I would welcome the opportunity to engage with the Foundation of Hearts to explore an investment," Gillett said.
"I am looking to acquire a football club with ambitions and I'm looking to invest significantly."
And in other news, it looks unlikely that they'll get enough votes from Leagues One and Two. Again from the BBC:
Hearts' league reconstruction proposal is "self-seeking" and a "non-starter", says Cowdenbeath chair Donald Findlay.
The Tynecastle club want a 14-14-14 SPFL set-up for the next two seasons - a move that would spare them relegation from the Scottish Premiership.
But Cowdenbeath are one of five sides in the bottom two tiers who have told BBC Scotland they will vote against it.
Should another join them, Clyde, Forfar Athletic, Peterhead, and Elgin City, the new plan would fail in any ballot.
While he did not declare his club's position, Stenhousemuir chairman Iain McMenemy said on Wednesday the proposal was doomed to failure. The move would also deny Cove Rangers promotion from the bottom tier.
Benny Budge.
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Originally Posted by Aldo
I get that Jambos feel grateful to her because she bailed them out of their last crisis. But it’s just a continuing pattern with them - get into debt, bail out, ignore alarm bells - repeat.
Who will be their next saviour?
At the stage now where I can’t stand this woman. Whinge, whinge whinge like a bairn that isn’t getting it’s own way. So now, and rightly so, a number of the lower league clubs can see through her proposals and are saying they won’t vote for them, all of a sudden the voting structure is wrong and they shouldn’t have a voice. Just F off, take your medicine and accept your relegation with some good grace. Oh and make up your mind, you either have loads of money or you don’t. Choose one and stick to it.
Cut throat business this pun game...Quote:
Originally Posted by Radge70
She'll probably appoint Craig Levein to sporting director to oversee the football operations side of things while she focuses on finishing the stand in time for the visit of Alloa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Wouldn't surprise me at all
Wouldn't put it past her at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by gloryhunter
If it was her I don't think she'd keep it quiet. My money's on it being the guys that created Grand Theft Auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesforever
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davi...ame_developer)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike...game_designer)
GTA is one of the all time highest grossing game franchises with $10 billion dollars of sales so they can probably afford to put a few million into Hearts without even blinking.
Remember the news story a couple of years ago saying the only condition of the benefactors was to relax the dress code in the directors box.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...ndition-184569
Casual dress code fits the profile of a game developer. As you can see, every day is dress down day.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Davi...h=725&dpr=2.63
https://www.google.com/search?q=mike...g-ss&prmd=isnv
The original owners were from Dundee and had subliminal images of Hibs and Leith as the good guys. Hearts as the bad guys. Think they have long sold up.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Yes the owners sold up in 1997 and left the company in 1999. They are US owned now. So highly unlikely them. This myth has been previously dismissed along with countless other red herrings.
CapirtalGreen who knows Stuart Wallace was told by Stuart at the start of this crisis that the benefactor would not be making further contributions because of the turmoil in financial markets and Hearts were well down the list if causes they help. This makes me think Budge's five year backing by the benefactor us bluster. Surely they would have stepped over salaries and keeping the club afloat and Budge would not be saying Hearts are in financial trouble. She has lied her way through this crisis. I think a big part of it is getting out of Hearts with the minimum of losses to her.
Fair enough. Definitely don't think it is Budge though.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
Why wouldn’t they need to declare where the money came from in their financials form a money laundering or financial crime perspective?
Given Anne's latest fudge seems doomed to failure, a big call is coming her way on whether to launch legal action. I suspect after the usual bluster she won't. It would cause massive aggro and create lasting hostility towards Hearts from the majority of clubs.
If she does, her chances of success must be slim given she would be trying to overturn the vote of a members organisation.
Even on the slim chance she succeeded, the best she would get is either a re-run of the SPFL vote (which would likely result in a bigger majority for, as clubs will be well p1ssed off with Hearts), or compo.
Their auditors will have checked the transactions and would be duty bound to report them if there was the slightest whiff of money laundering. As long as the auditors are happy Benny can remain anonymous.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
It is all just wind and pish. I don't think she wants to go ahead but the fans do so she'll shortly be under immense pressure from them to proceed. She knows they've got a weak case and probably the advice to her is not to go ahead which is why we are seeing repeated threats of court action as the threat of it is the only thing they've got left.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
Once the reconstruction proposal is knocked on the head I expect a statement saying, for the good of the game Hearts have decided not to go to court.
Today is Levein's last day at work. So long and thanks for the relegation Craig. I shall be raising my glass to you tonight in appreciation of all your good work (for the benefit of Hibs). Enjoy your seat in the stand next season watching as the Championship unfolds.
Is that Dr Mrs Ann Onymous do you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
No idea who it is, although did think it was her. Main thing is her plan is thrown out the window. Now I think there real situation will be laid bare as the championship unlikely to start before the start of 2021. Going to enjoy their pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
A special purpose vehicle or a family member could have been used. That would mean the contributions would not be reported as from a director. Sneaky but legal.Quote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
Exactly. She’s also turned decent hertz fans into blithering idiots forced to trot out the party line they know is utter Horlivka. She has adopted trumpian ways which is a terrible look in Edinburgh. The unbelievable garbage I’ve heard from hertz fans has actually taken by breath away at times and the few sevco fans I know have accepted that the leagues had no their choice. Budge will make their club pariahs if she doesn’t desist from her pathetic, childish behaviour. To say the structure is wrong when she has spent months trying to wriggle out of relegation when the vote isn’t going as she wants is unbelievably embarrassing for Edinburgh.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
I don’t wish them go bust but now have them as the same level of dislike as sevco. Tom English has lost any sense of balance during this debate and will struggle to get his credibility back and as for banderson and the evening news. Utterly cringeworthy. It’s been a very sad reflection of a lot of folk in Edinburgh which is what’s disappoints most.
It’s all a good laugh isn’t it?Quote:
Originally Posted by cocteautwin
So Legal action it is she has two QC on board no less.
Restriction of trading being one of the claims.
Enter the legal guys
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[QUOTE=Thief;6186975]This clause she mentions (emergency situation where board can overturn vote) does anyone know whether it exists?
The rules are online but I couldn’t find anything, although not sure if I was looking in right place!
I find it unbelievable that a club chairperson would refer to it in a media interview without checking its existence.
The board can’t overturn a vote of the clubs. She is just deluded. As Doncaster has said,many many times,the board acts on the clubs behalf and only the clubs can change anything. She’s like the queen mum at royal ascot after a sherry too many.🤣🤣
Me thinks Benny factor was hoping he could retire from saving them and is now upset he’s having to raid his piggy bank again.. Budges behaviour suggests Benny doesn’t want to help anymore and she’s facing reality for the first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
This really is the pick of the bunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
Restriction of trade - the straws are gone and she’s clutching at thin air now.
They are ripe for a dodgy takeover. I bet there are loads of unscrupulous businessmen hovering over Gorgie right now looking for a quick asset strip. The jambos are being sidetracked by budges bletherings and could end up in an even worse state. They never learn.
She’s had one too many QCs 😂 not a chance of success but I’ll love watching their efforts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
Quite a few of them seem to think lower leagues = league 1 and league 2. Lower league actually = any league below the top one. The one they arent and wont be part of for some time.
"Ahh but we are only looking at League Reconstruction for the benefit of Scottish football. But... if you dont keep us up we'll sue and stop youse all playing!"
I wish they would now just F off and shut up.
No the first QC did not agree withe second QC .Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Then they decided to team up , easy money twice the cost and Annie is left where she started in the championship.
I wonder could clubs vote the Hearts out of the SPFL set up completely [emoji16][emoji16]
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Very good...wonder if her adviser on her reconstruction proposals is Gerry Mander?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
Can they be docked points for threatening behaviour?
It’s what they’ve done.
Only thing she has got right is the SPLF voting system is not fit for purpose. But as she not proposing to change it it’s just more waffle from her
So now they’re attempting to bring the game into disrepute. At what point do the league decide they’ve had their fun and it’s time for them to **** off for good?
You couldn’t make this up. She should really take the appropriate advice prior to rambling on after one too many Gins.
The sooner this proposal is booted into touch the better.
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When she says it’s not fit for purpose she is specifically referring to her purpose. She wants to railroad her changes through and the voting system makes that difficult. She’s not been remotely interested that the voting system was heavily weighted to the premier league teams, specifically two teams, in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucky
She had the opportunity to challenge it when she was on the board but didn’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by CentreLine
Where does this restriction of trading nonsense come from? Its only been rumoured that Championship games won’t be able to start behind closed doors. Nothing confirmed as far as I’m aware. I’m assuming that’s what the restriction of trade is about.
It’s her latest nonsensical idea after her first three or four reasons for Hearts not being relegated have been laughed out of town.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
The next one will probably be “we qualified for the Scottish Cup semi final and may still have to play it. In the interest of fairness we should be kept in the Premiership as we were in that league when we qualified for it AND IT’S JUST NO FAIR!!!”
They’ve been doing that for weeks now. No attempting about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Yip, you can hear how that will go in court. "So Mrs Budge when you were in the SPFL board you will obviously have out forward motions at board meetings to change the voting structure and the minutes of these meetings will be available for the court to view" she is a fanny and what she means is that it's not fit for purpose as it doesn't fit into her own purpose. She will be laughed out of court if she even dares to go thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Kojock
I also see Hearts fans are frothing at the mouth that the Ayr chairman has said they finished in last place.!
“How stupid is he, doesn’t he realise the season wasn’t finished?!!!!”
Meanwhile, their own club voted for the season to... yup, you guessed it. Finish.
I’ve noticed something a bit unusual with the FoH accounts submitted to companies house.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
Tenon were their original accountants and when they went pop in 2013 Scot Moncrieff were appointed and produced their accounts until 2017.
Then the 2018 accounts have Scott Moncrieff’s name on the front cover and they are listed as the FoH accountants , but there is no report or signature from them. Also the spaces for the FoH directors signatures are blank. In other words they have submitted unsigned accounts.
The most recent accounts for 2019 have been signed by their directors but there is not reference to any independent accountants, so I presume they are doing their accounts themselves.
Nothing wrong with that, but when you consider the £ 100,000 s in d.ds and cow stuffing funds etc you would expect some kind of independent check.
Independent reviews are discretionary, at that level of income. The extent to which the accounts have been "checked" will be agreed between FOH and SM.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
On the lack of signatures issue, I suspect this is a presentation issue. Very few accounts of small companies these days have "actual" signatures on them, as most are electronically submitted. CH only seem to be insistent on there being a name and a date.
Spoilsport! Can you not retire again? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I think you'll find Companies House moved to on-line filing in their Beta site a few years back and companies can now complete and submit their returns on line with all documents essentially digitally signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Thanks for that Crops.
Are you saying Scot Moncrieff could still be checking their accounts even without any mention of their name ?
Have they no limited their own ability to trade by finishing bottom of the league?! They're behaving like they've been relegated after finishing 10th, fuds!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
I've just seen a headline saying budge will have hearts to the fans not sell it to fillet. Am I being thick but it's not hers to sell? Has it not already gone to foh and she's just the custodian on their say so?
They will probably be preparing them as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
There's no need to put one's name on accounts these days, either..... and some accountants might prefer to keep their name out of things.:greengrin
She still owns the shares, but there is a binding agreement to transfer them to FOH..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
[QUOTE=mjhibby;6187215]It is another feeble tactic, in amongst many other feeble tactics. She is trying to plant a seed in clubs' minds "If the proposal doesn't get the required votes, the SPFL will push it through anyway so we might as well vote in favour of it."Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief
Like every other tactic it will backfire as the CEOs/chairpersons etc will see through it and it will cost more votes than it will gain.
If there really was such a clause then she'd have been definite about it rather than the vague guff she spouted. Tom English and the other 'journalists' would have looked up the rules after hearing her interview and there would be umpteen articles today with it. In fact, as bad as journos are these days, I'm sure one of them would have found it before now and printed it.