I'm reminded of the Kevin Rowland reply, "It's a mans dress."Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
https://youtube.com/watch?v=r54fZikFOu8&feature=share8
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I'm reminded of the Kevin Rowland reply, "It's a mans dress."Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
https://youtube.com/watch?v=r54fZikFOu8&feature=share8
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I see your Kevin Rowland and raise you...David Bowie!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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Unfair Play: The Battle for Women’s Sport by Sharron Davies review — women are being cheated of medals (thetimes.co.uk)
Davies certainly knows what she's talking about. Cheated out of gold by one of the testosterone-fuelled East Germans of that era, who essentially enjoyed the advantages biological males are now bringing to 'women's' sport.
This is 100% the issue. I, and most tolerant people couldn’t give a crap what other people do and have no issues whatsoever with people choosing to be trans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
The big problem here is that women’s rights, safety and privacy are potentially at risk and if woman don’t want someone born a man sharing a changing room then they should be fully entitled to that right.
Also the decisions (mainly in certain American states) allowing children to transition are completely irresponsible. In a country where you can’t drink until your 21 it is insane that irreversible life changing (and life ruining if you later regret it) changes are happening and being almost encouraged by a very vocal minority.
In Scotland we have (wrongly IMO) decided that until you are 25 you are not fully matured and therefore receive much more lenient sentencing at court.
This popped up on my twitter a few days ago.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12209919/amp/Full-audio-Student-rejected-classmates-claim-shes-CAT-scolded-teacher.html
Kids being scolded by a teacher, called despicable and told that they should find a new school for disagreeing that it is normal that their classmate identifies as a cat. The kids come over pretty reasonable and mature in the recording whereas the teacher is very stubborn.
Where do we draw the line? I’m all for people doing what makes them happy but a young teenager identifying as an animal probably needs a lot of help rather than endorsement and encouragement.
Do you even have the full context behind this? Perhaps the kid was just messing around, using their imagination. As kids do. The teacher dealt with that conversation poorly. But we don't know absolutely everything that led up to that conversation in the first place. Perhaps the children in that clip were bullying or belittling those who felt unsure about their gender identity, which is not ok either. Unprofessional from the teacher, but you have to wonder what part those kids parents play in their mindset to think that it's ok to single out other people and claim that they're somehow mentally ill, just because they're going through something that they can't fully comprehend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
And yet in this article, and others, no classmate identified as a cat. The young girl said something along the lines that if someone identified as a cat, that would be crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Guess you missed this from a year ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jun/19/transgender-swimmers-barred-from-female-competitions-after-fina-vote?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAg M%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16872685511738&ref errer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https% 3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fsport%2F2022%2Fjun%2 F19%2Ftransgender-swimmers-barred-from-female-competitions-after-fina-vote
I'm reposting this as it seems to have been missed by most.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e_iOSApp_Other
I didn't miss it, but that's not the issue. The link I posted is a review of her new book (out this week) where she recounts that disgraceful Olympic experience (the East German's gold has still not been rescinded) and the point being made is that those claiming a ban on trans women taking part in women's sports categories is transphobic are choosing to ignore the absurd and destructive advantage they enjoy as biological males.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
The abuse Davies has taken (and the loss of the majority of her work) since sticking her head above the parapet on this is outrageous.
Interesting.....
https://gayexpress.co.nz/2023/06/wor...-over-cis-man/
Not really. If you enjoy boxing you won't really look at the first 8 fights as they are exhibition in all but name. Your not a fan of biology if you think this is going to continueQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Boxing has been generally good in banning biological males from smashing females. Unfortunately mma not so. Fallon fox born a male broke her opponents skull, sick imo
Not sure whether this belongs here, or in the Tory-bashing thread.
Whatever, it's your Friday funny :greengrin
https://twitter.com/MrJohnNicolson/s...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Love this reply!Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
https://twitter.com/Mckendrick36/sta...TYdM0KLeQ&s=19
Helen Joyce explains very well why gender ideology is nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ysKQrRMMU
I got a letter from the NHS last week with my name as 'Miss Keith Mc.....'
I blame Nicola Sturgeon!
:grr:
The number of people who said they were not the same gender as their birth sex amounted to 0.5% of the population that responded, lower than polling by Ipsos last summer in which 3.1% of people said they were trans, non-binary, gender queer or gender fluid, a gender or another gender that was not male or female.
The tally is, however, similar to Canada, which in 2021 became the first country to apply a census to its transgender and non-binary population aged 15 and over, which found they made up 0.33% of the population.
The England and Wales census also recorded sexuality for the first time, with 1.5 million people aged over 15 – or 3.2% – identifying as gay or lesbian, bisexual or other sexual orientation. The charity Stonewall, which has long called for the inclusion of gender and sexual identity questions, described the results as “a historic step”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...for-first-time
Not everyone will like the author, but this piece explores the isue that some people had understanding the question https://unherd.com/2023/04/how-the-t...ooled-britain/Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
https://archive.is/KRY73
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Beast should go to a male prisonQuote:
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Trans charity Mermaids loses challenge against LGB Alliance - BBC News
Common sense prevails.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-fife-66542300
I'm surprised the original venues were able to cancel his show based on the precedent Joanna Cherry set.
It's absolutely mental . Who would have thought that free speech would be so viciously attacked in 21st century Scotland , at the Festival of all places .Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
I think Leith Arches is in for a tricky time. Their statement really damned them.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Cherry's threat of legal action saw the Stand beat a hasty retreat (tho we still saw absurd security measures having to be put in place for her show). I'm wondering whether Linehan considered similar against Leith Arches. Maybe that could still come.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
There's chat about it. TBH I think there was an element of trap about the booking that the venue walked smack into. In some ways I hope there isn't legal action because I suspect they don't have the resources. The Stand did, but saw sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Both cases, the venue was booked by third parties. It only became apparent later on who the 'acts' were. I think in both cases the 'agents' knew what they were doing by not naming who was to appear until after the booking was confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
I think you are right, though it wouldn't take a phd to work it out. I think the organisers knew there was a chance this would happen and the venue put their foot in the bear trap .Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
It's Fringe time. This was all about marketing, and Andrew Doyle has played a blinder here. Of course he knew what he was doing, with the "mystery act" and the "reveal" thereof.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
At the end of the day, everyone can claim a wee win:-
The venue (and I'm not sure there was ever more than 1) has satisfied their own integrity.
The punters (100 of them?) got their show.
The extremists got a chance to snarl at each other for a bit.
Linehan got a wee boost to his flagging career.
Comedy Unleashed got some PR for their upcoming London gigs.
Doyle got something to chat about on GB News.
I agree mostly, but the venue has exposure if legal action was pursued. I'm not sure they will be sued given the wider background.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod