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16-01-2014, 09:49 AM
greenpaper55

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Originally Posted by jacomoseven

'Other reasons' behind Broon's departure... I wonder what they could be.

And nice to see Fatty Foulkes back in the press to opine on the coaching structure at Hearts, what a windbag.

Ah yes, Baron Foulkes. The man who introduced Vlad to the Hearts , he knows a thing or two about football !, i suppose we have to thank that erse for the fun we are having right now.
16-01-2014, 10:00 AM
ano hibby

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Originally Posted by Dunderhall

Internal politics on the go according to Stuart Bathgate.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ding-1-3270117

#allverycomplexandfarfrombarry
16-01-2014, 10:03 AM
cabbageandribs1875

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Originally Posted by greenpaper55

Ah yes, Baron Foulkes. The man who introduced Vlad to the Hearts , he knows a thing or two about football !, i suppose we have to thank that erse for the fun we are having right now.

he has a heid like a football...one of the old style leather and lace yins that's been battered about the pitch for 90mins
16-01-2014, 10:04 AM
RyeSloan

Or #deckchairsonthetitanic
16-01-2014, 10:42 AM
hibeesathampden

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Originally Posted by Bill Milne

Saw a report that the SPFL board cannot convene till 3 February to discuss any request from Hertz about players to come in. Skacel, therefore, cannot play in the League Cup semi under any circumstances. Even better, they have to lose a player before that weekend to facilitate his arrival.

IF this is true then I have no problem with Skacel signing. Don't want him helping them get to the final but in terms of the league... They'll get relegated with or without him. Wouldn't even mind him helping them pick up a few points, delaying the inevitable until the 29th March. Plus would make them going down even sweeter if he was in the team.
16-01-2014, 10:58 AM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Dunderhall

Internal politics on the go according to Stuart Bathgate.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ding-1-3270117

It's going to get ugly.

Sorry, I mean it's gong to get even uglier.

If the big L is now approaching, you'd expect the blame game to begin now as each party points the finger at others for getting the strategy wrong.

I bet 'I am an MP' is searching for the eject button too - always a very high risk project for a politician to identify themselves with so closely, I think his ego got the better of him when he accepted the role and now he might be regretting it.
16-01-2014, 11:11 AM
Gus Fring

It seems the news from inside Tynecastle is as we expected.

Bryan Jackson is trying to save as much money as possible because he has no idea when the shares are coming from Lithuania. His concern just now is that as far as both sets of administrators are concerned Hearts aren't a priority so they'll be left waiting. BDO's attempts at finding out information are now largely being ignored by the liths.

BJ thought he would have Hearts out of admin by Christmas at the absolute latest. Additionally whilst he prides himself on not liquidating clubs the FOH complicates matters because when he does liquidate, it's not just a business transaction that won't be completed there will be a mess left behind with direct debits etc.

These cost cuts are the result of the need for yet more savings. They have no home game for 6 weeks and the Semi Final money isn't paid straight away apparently.

Jackson wants Stevenson and King gone so he can get the money but the 2 of them think they are helping the club by staying. King in particular is a thorn in BJ's side because he's not even in the squad. The tattooed freak has a clause in his contract that decides whether he stays or goes in this window and he's choosing to stay.

On the subject of the human colouring book, apparently he thinks of himself as some sort of saviour and that he's the best player on the park. Hamill has a major attitude problem and is apparently a right arse to the players, behaving like some sort of hardened veteran, barking orders etc. Apparently the youngsters all take the piss out of him behind his back.

One young player is quoted as saying "It's like when you're wee having a kick about and a couple of adults join in. They think they are amazing because they can skin wee laddies"
16-01-2014, 11:13 AM
Stevie Reid

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

It seems the news from inside Tynecastle is as we expected.

Bryan Jackson is trying to save as much money as possible because he has no idea when the shares are coming from Lithuania. His concern just now is that as far as both sets of administrators are concerned Hearts aren't a priority so they'll be left waiting. BDO's attempts at finding out information are now largely being ignored by the liths.

BJ thought he would have Hearts out of admin by Christmas at the absolute latest. Additionally whilst he prides himself on not liquidating clubs the FOH complicates matters because when he does liquidate, it's not just a business transaction that won't be completed there will be a mess left behind with direct debits etc.

These cost cuts are the result of the need for yet more savings. They have no home game for 6 weeks and the Semi Final money isn't paid straight away apparently.

Jackson wants Stevenson and King gone so he can get the money but the 2 of them think they are helping the club by staying. King in particular is a thorn in BJ's side because he's not even in the squad. The tattooed freak has a clause in his contract that decides whether he stays or goes in this window and he's choosing to stay.

On the subject of the human colouring book, apparently he thinks of himself as some sort of saviour and that he's the best player on the park. Hamill has a major attitude problem and is apparently a right arse to the players, behaving like some sort of hardened veteran, barking orders etc. Apparently the youngsters all take the piss out of him behind his back.

One young player is quoted as saying "It's like when you're wee having a kick about and a couple of adults join in. They think they are amazing because they can skin wee laddies"

Thanks, as always, for the information Bajillions. What a thoroughly enjoyable read :greengrin
16-01-2014, 11:17 AM
Aldo

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

It seems the news from inside Tynecastle is as we expected. Bryan Jackson is trying to save as much money as possible because he has no idea when the shares are coming from Lithuania. His concern just now is that as far as both sets of administrators are concerned Hearts aren't a priority so they'll be left waiting. BDO's attempts at finding out information are now largely being ignored by the liths. BJ thought he would have Hearts out of admin by Christmas at the absolute latest. Additionally whilst he prides himself on not liquidating clubs the FOH complicates matters because when he does liquidate, it's not just a business transaction that won't be completed there will be a mess left behind with direct debits etc. These cost cuts are the result of the need for yet more savings. They have no home game for 6 weeks and the Semi Final money isn't paid straight away apparently. Jackson wants Stevenson and King gone so he can get the money but the 2 of them think they are helping the club by staying. King in particular is a thorn in BJ's side because he's not even in the squad. The tattooed freak has a clause in his contract that decides whether he stays or goes in this window and he's choosing to stay. On the subject of the human colouring book, apparently he thinks of himself as some sort of saviour and that he's the best player on the park. Hamill has a major attitude problem and is apparently a right arse to the players, behaving like some sort of hardened veteran, barking orders etc. Apparently the youngsters all take the piss out of him behind his back. One young player is quoted as saying "It's like when you're wee having a kick about and a couple of adults join in. They think they are amazing because they can skin wee laddies"

Cheers for that Baj. Excellent news that all is still not well at the PBS.

Long may this continue.
16-01-2014, 11:21 AM
The_Todd

My question is, and excuse me if it's dumb, but why would direct debits to S.H.I.T be a problem for BDO? Just because surely the DDs would be for S.H.I.T to deal with internally Should the plan fail to come together?
16-01-2014, 11:22 AM
Gus Fring

Oh, a wee message for Kickback as well because we all know they read my info.

:giruy:
16-01-2014, 11:22 AM
Geebsy1875

Fantastic! These posts/this thread is what lunch time is all about - logging on and catching up on 2, 3 maybe even 4 pages of info on the latest goings on at the Wongadome! Love it!! :agree::thumbsup::flag:
16-01-2014, 11:25 AM
Gus Fring

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Originally Posted by The Governor

My question is, and excuse me if it's dumb, but why would direct debits to S.H.I.T be a problem for BDO? Just because surely the DDs would be for S.H.I.T to deal with internally Should the plan fail to come together?

They would be dealt with by FOH but we all know it won't be them that takes the fans anger when it happens, they'll vent all their anger at BDO. If BDO liquidate then Hearts fans will lose money.
16-01-2014, 11:27 AM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by The Governor

My question is, and excuse me if it's dumb, but why would direct debits to S.H.I.T be a problem for BDO? Just because surely the DDs would be for S.H.I.T to deal with internally Should the plan fail to come together?

BDO have to be comfortable that there is a viable business once the company exits administration. To have the CVA pass, and the money change hands, is not enough.

If, as Bajillions says, FOH's direct debits are in a mess, with no clear plan, that's not a viable business.
16-01-2014, 11:36 AM
The_Todd

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

They would be dealt with by FOH but we all know it won't be them that takes the fans anger when it happens, they'll vent all their anger at BDO. If BDO liquidate then Hearts fans will lose money.

Cheers, so it's not logistical, rather they've afraid of the baying hoardes. :aok:

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

BDO have to be comfortable that there is a viable business once the company exits administration. To have the CVA pass, and the money change hands, is not enough.

If, as Bajillions says, FOH's direct debits are in a mess, with no clear plan, that's not a viable business.

My original post was done on an iPhone and not typed out so well. I meant by would the DDs be a problem for BDO in the event of liquidation, but Bajillions has replied above saying why. Cheers anyway. :aok:
16-01-2014, 11:44 AM
Sergey

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

It seems the news from inside Tynecastle is as we expected.

Bryan Jackson is trying to save as much money as possible because he has no idea when the shares are coming from Lithuania. His concern just now is that as far as both sets of administrators are concerned Hearts aren't a priority so they'll be left waiting. BDO's attempts at finding out information are now largely being ignored by the liths.

Nice one, Bajillions - regarding the bit in bold, this ties in with what I've been told for over a year. Hearts are not a priority to either Ukio nor UBIG. Far bigger concerns that them to contend with :aok:
16-01-2014, 11:53 AM
Broken Gnome

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Originally Posted by hibees 7062

Well done that man , :jamboak:Kinda gives it away .

And the LTYF bit :giruy:

Just to stress, I didn't think you genuinely would have said that... honest.
16-01-2014, 12:01 PM
Broken Gnome

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Originally Posted by Sergey

Nice one, Bajillions - regarding the bit in bold, this ties in with what I've been told for over a year. Hearts are not a priority to either Ukio nor UBIG. Far bigger concerns that them to contend with :aok:

But... but... Lithuania hold the presidency of the European Council don't they? I thought the bastions of international politics at Kickback and the EEN assured us their first act would be to save this global institution in the interests of worldwide harmony????

No?
16-01-2014, 12:01 PM
StevieC

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Originally Posted by Dunderhall

Internal politics on the go according to Stuart Bathgate.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...ding-1-3270117

He has completely missed the point of the recent Brown/Southern/Murray news. It's absolutely nothing to do with results or form, and everything to do with cost cutting to provide a couple of extra weeks of grace in the desperate hope that news about the shares arrives from Lithuania.
16-01-2014, 12:06 PM
Hank Schrader

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

It seems the news from inside Tynecastle is as we expected.

Bryan Jackson is trying to save as much money as possible because he has no idea when the shares are coming from Lithuania. His concern just now is that as far as both sets of administrators are concerned Hearts aren't a priority so they'll be left waiting. BDO's attempts at finding out information are now largely being ignored by the liths.

BJ thought he would have Hearts out of admin by Christmas at the absolute latest. Additionally whilst he prides himself on not liquidating clubs the FOH complicates matters because when he does liquidate, it's not just a business transaction that won't be completed there will be a mess left behind with direct debits etc.

These cost cuts are the result of the need for yet more savings. They have no home game for 6 weeks and the Semi Final money isn't paid straight away apparently.

Jackson wants Stevenson and King gone so he can get the money but the 2 of them think they are helping the club by staying. King in particular is a thorn in BJ's side because he's not even in the squad. The tattooed freak has a clause in his contract that decides whether he stays or goes in this window and he's choosing to stay.

On the subject of the human colouring book, apparently he thinks of himself as some sort of saviour and that he's the best player on the park. Hamill has a major attitude problem and is apparently a right arse to the players, behaving like some sort of hardened veteran, barking orders etc. Apparently the youngsters all take the piss out of him behind his back.

One young player is quoted as saying "It's like when you're wee having a kick about and a couple of adults join in. They think they are amazing because they can skin wee laddies"

Great info again Bajillions.

Bits in bold had me snorting with laughter!
16-01-2014, 12:09 PM
Spike Mandela

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

They would be dealt with by FOH but we all know it won't be them that takes the fans anger when it happens, they'll vent all their anger at BDO. If BDO liquidate then Hearts fans will lose money.

Regards FoH does anything really change if Hearts are liquidate. In essence will they not just do the old pre pack deal as per Sevco and use the fans' cash for that?
16-01-2014, 12:11 PM
CyberSauzee

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

Oh, a wee message for Kickback as well because we all know they read my info.

:giruy:

Brilliant. :top marks They'll read it then :ostrich:
16-01-2014, 12:13 PM
LancsHibs

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Originally Posted by hibeesathampden

IF this is true then I have no problem with Skacel signing. Don't want him helping them get to the final but in terms of the league... They'll get relegated with or without him. Wouldn't even mind him helping them pick up a few points, delaying the inevitable until the 29th March. Plus would make them going down even sweeter if he was in the team.

Skatchel won't help them a jot, he is unfit, out of shape and above all not very good:brokenyam:
16-01-2014, 12:15 PM
Gus Fring

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Regards FoH does anything really change if Hearts are liquidate. In essence will they not just do the old pre pack deal as per Sevco and use the fans' cash for that?

We all assume that's the next stage but it's doubtful they have enough money for everything as it stands. I can't see BDO selling them the stadium for example.
16-01-2014, 12:19 PM
LancsHibs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bajillions

It seems the news from inside Tynecastle is as we expected.

Bryan Jackson is trying to save as much money as possible because he has no idea when the shares are coming from Lithuania. His concern just now is that as far as both sets of administrators are concerned Hearts aren't a priority so they'll be left waiting. BDO's attempts at finding out information are now largely being ignored by the liths.

BJ thought he would have Hearts out of admin by Christmas at the absolute latest. Additionally whilst he prides himself on not liquidating clubs the FOH complicates matters because when he does liquidate, it's not just a business transaction that won't be completed there will be a mess left behind with direct debits etc.

These cost cuts are the result of the need for yet more savings. They have no home game for 6 weeks and the Semi Final money isn't paid straight away apparently.

Jackson wants Stevenson and King gone so he can get the money but the 2 of them think they are helping the club by staying. King in particular is a thorn in BJ's side because he's not even in the squad. The tattooed freak has a clause in his contract that decides whether he stays or goes in this window and he's choosing to stay.

On the subject of the human colouring book, apparently he thinks of himself as some sort of saviour and that he's the best player on the park. Hamill has a major attitude problem and is apparently a right arse to the players, behaving like some sort of hardened veteran, barking orders etc. Apparently the youngsters all take the piss out of him behind his back.

One young player is quoted as saying "It's like when you're wee having a kick about and a couple of adults join in. They think they are amazing because they can skin wee laddies"

All very pleasing news. Shouldn't be any complications with regards to DD's if/when they are liquidated direct debits will just bounce back into the plumbs own bank accounts
16-01-2014, 12:19 PM
ScottB

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Regards FoH does anything really change if Hearts are liquidate. In essence will they not just do the old pre pack deal as per Sevco and use the fans' cash for that?

Presumably there'd be no guarantee of a quick sale?

FoH may have to set up a totally new club while the current one waits for the blender...
16-01-2014, 12:19 PM
K-Zazu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bajillions

It seems the news from inside Tynecastle is as we expected.

Bryan Jackson is trying to save as much money as possible because he has no idea when the shares are coming from Lithuania. His concern just now is that as far as both sets of administrators are concerned Hearts aren't a priority so they'll be left waiting. BDO's attempts at finding out information are now largely being ignored by the liths.

BJ thought he would have Hearts out of admin by Christmas at the absolute latest. Additionally whilst he prides himself on not liquidating clubs the FOH complicates matters because when he does liquidate, it's not just a business transaction that won't be completed there will be a mess left behind with direct debits etc.

These cost cuts are the result of the need for yet more savings. They have no home game for 6 weeks and the Semi Final money isn't paid straight away apparently.

Jackson wants Stevenson and King gone so he can get the money but the 2 of them think they are helping the club by staying. King in particular is a thorn in BJ's side because he's not even in the squad. The tattooed freak has a clause in his contract that decides whether he stays or goes in this window and he's choosing to stay.

On the subject of the human colouring book, apparently he thinks of himself as some sort of saviour and that he's the best player on the park. Hamill has a major attitude problem and is apparently a right arse to the players, behaving like some sort of hardened veteran, barking orders etc. Apparently the youngsters all take the piss out of him behind his back.

One young player is quoted as saying "It's like when you're wee having a kick about and a couple of adults join in. They think they are amazing because they can skin wee laddies"

Amen.
16-01-2014, 12:23 PM
Gus Fring

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Originally Posted by LancsHibs

All very pleasing news. Shouldn't be any complications with regards to DD's if/when they are liquidated direct debits will just bounce back into the plumbs own bank accounts

Minus a "processing fee" of around 15% allegedly
16-01-2014, 12:24 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Regards FoH does anything really change if Hearts are liquidate. In essence will they not just do the old pre pack deal as per Sevco and use the fans' cash for that?

The difference with Sevco is that, in their CVA offer, there was a Plan B offer on the table in case Plan A didn't work. There isn't a Plan B in Hearts' case.

In the event of liquidation, the stadium and land will have to go on the open market.
16-01-2014, 12:30 PM
LancsHibs

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Originally Posted by Bajillions

Minus a "processing fee" of around 15% allegedly

Pleasing:greengrin

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