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28-03-2021, 03:52 PM
Since452

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

Who is our best player?

It is Scott Allan for me all day long.

Not Scott Allan anyway. He's hardly kicked a ball all season after his career/life threatening condition. He's exceptional when fully fit and in top condition as we all know but he isn't right now.
28-03-2021, 03:54 PM
Allez Hibs

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Originally Posted by Tyler Durden

Nah I think the narrative will be that no team outside the OF has won more points than Hibs since Ross took over. Built a team with a solid defensive record this year and getting the best out of a squad that is improving every window.

How many times did Aberdeen or Motherwell beat Hibs last season? It’s irrelevant. The league table doesn’t lie.

Last season, Jack Ross was in charge for about 6 games and finished 7th? Hearts beat us 3-1 at home and beat us in a Semi Final that's the narrative.

We are ordinary.

I do think Jack Ross will be away at the first sign of a club like Preston wanting him.

Scott Allan is the main player at the club.
28-03-2021, 03:55 PM
WhileTheChief..

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

He might not - that’s likely due to not recovering from his condition though.

Agreed.
28-03-2021, 03:55 PM
Heisenberg

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Originally Posted by Since452

Not Scott Allan anyway. He's hardly kicked a ball all season after his career/life threatening condition. He's exceptional when fully fit and in top condition as we all know but he isn't right now.

Exactly. Scott Allan is nowhere near our best player in his current condition. Needs to get his fitness and match sharpness back and we can’t afford to let him do that in our league run in. This move makes perfect sense.
28-03-2021, 03:56 PM
FitbaFolkKen

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

Narrative will be that we aren't that convincing, I mean we could finish 3rd with only having beaten Aberdeen once with no Hearts in the league. And no Hearts in the league is important with our record in Derbies and points dropped.

It's a funny one, statistical fans will say we have finished 3rd on merit while more pragmatic fans will look at how we play and factor in Aberdeen have been poor along with the Semi Finals.

Doesn't Kyle Magennis need game time and time to prove himself more than Scott Allan?

You can only beat what is in front of you.

Why would you want to run with such a negative narrative? Give the club some respect.

We hopefully finish 3rd even with the following issues

- a national pandemic. We got slaughtered in the media at the start of the season for our handling. Aberdeen sold a lot of important players in January, perhaps their downturn is related to not dealing with things as well as we did earlier.
- Scotty being missing for the season.
- bids for Nisbet and Ryan
- gutting losses in the cup
- our number 1 announcing his departure at the end of the season
- Leeann moving on

It’s pretty amazing, consider how many issues there have also been at Rangers/Celtic/Aberdeen related to Covid. We’ve quietly got along with our business. Perhaps the inconsistency we’ve seen at times is due to the impact of the current situation. I know my work has been inconsistent in the last 12 months.

Why you would want to sit in misery and say “we only got third because Aberdeen were rubbish”. It is ridiculous. We’ve potentially got some amazing European football to look forward to next year because we may achieve a league position we rarely do.

We’ve made some great signings such as McGinn, Cadden and Irvine. The squad likely doesn’t need too much work so we might only see some real quality come in in the summer.

I salute the club, Jack, and Ron for everything that has been achieved this year. It’s been an awful year but imagine in 6 months reliving days like Brondby away.

Let’s stop being miserable and get excited!

GGTTH

P.S. I managed to not even mention the comedy show across the city.

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28-03-2021, 04:01 PM
Allez Hibs

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Originally Posted by FitbaFolkKen

You can only beat what is in front of you.

Why would you want to run with such a negative narrative? Give the club some respect.

We hopefully finish 3rd even with the following issues

- a national pandemic. We got slaughtered in the media at the start of the season for our handling. Aberdeen sold a lot of important players in January, perhaps their downturn is related to not dealing with things as well as we did earlier.
- Scotty being missing for the season.
- bids for Nisbet and Ryan
- gutting losses in the cup
- our number 1 announcing his departure at the end of the season
- Leeann moving on

It’s pretty amazing, consider how many issues there have also been at Rangers/Celtic/Aberdeen related to Covid. We’ve quietly got along with our business. Perhaps the inconsistency we’ve seen at times is due to the impact of the current situation. I know my work has been inconsistent in the last 12 months.

Why you would want to sit in misery and say “we only got third because Aberdeen were rubbish”. It is ridiculous. We’ve potentially got some amazing European football to look forward to next year because we may achieve a league position we rarely do.

We’ve made some great signings such as McGinn, Cadden and Irvine. The squad likely doesn’t need too much work so we might only see some real quality come in in the summer.

I salute the club, Jack, and Ron for everything that has been achieved this year. It’s been an awful year but imagine in 6 months reliving days like Brondby away.

Let’s stop being miserable and get excited!

GGTTH

P.S. I managed to not even mention the comedy show across the city.

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Love the optimism and you raise some good points 👍
28-03-2021, 04:03 PM
Brightside

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

Who is our best player?

It is Scott Allan for me all day long.

Scott Allan isn’t in our top 11 right now. How on earth can he be our best player? He’s a great player when he’s fit and on form. For no fault of his own that hasn’t been for a while.
28-03-2021, 04:05 PM
WeeRussell

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

Last season, Jack Ross was in charge for about 6 games and finished 7th? Hearts beat us 3-1 at home and beat us in a Semi Final that's the narrative.

We are ordinary.

I do think Jack Ross will be away at the first sign of a club like Preston wanting him.

Scott Allan is the main player at the club.

Wow - you really don’t like our manager do you?

Scott Allan is my favourite player at Hibs, and for me the most gifted midfielder since Latapy. But how is he possibly the “main player” right now having played about 20 minutes in the last 10 months?

If he gets back match fit then he’s every chance of being the main man again. Hopefully this loan spell helps that.
28-03-2021, 04:11 PM
Allez Hibs

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Originally Posted by WeeRussell

Wow - you really don’t like our manager do you?

Scott Allan is my favourite player at Hibs, and for me the most gifted midfielder since Latapy. But how is he possibly the “main player” right now having played about 20 minutes in the last 10 months?

If he gets back match fit then he’s every chance of being the main man again. Hopefully this loan spell helps that.

Where have I said I dislike the manager?

I am simply stating past results and giving my opinion on a decision.
28-03-2021, 04:12 PM
Brightside

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

Last season, Jack Ross was in charge for about 6 games and finished 7th? Hearts beat us 3-1 at home and beat us in a Semi Final that's the narrative.

We are ordinary.

I do think Jack Ross will be away at the first sign of a club like Preston wanting him.

Scott Allan is the main player at the club.

We are the 3rd best team in Scotland. That’s the narrative.
28-03-2021, 04:17 PM
WeeRussell

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

Where have I said I dislike the manager?

I am simply stating past results and giving my opinion on a decision.

You haven’t. I’m asking if that’s the case given you’ve called his team (who are going to have their best league campaign in many years) ordinary, highlighted two games against hearts from last season, and made an assumption that he’s the sort of person who is ready to bolt at the first opportunity.

It sounds like you’re not a fan of his. Apologies if that’s not the case.
28-03-2021, 04:20 PM
Tyler Durden

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

Last season, Jack Ross was in charge for about 6 games and finished 7th? Hearts beat us 3-1 at home and beat us in a Semi Final that's the narrative.

We are ordinary.

I do think Jack Ross will be away at the first sign of a club like Preston wanting him.

Scott Allan is the main player at the club.

And Hibs under Ross went to Tynecastle and won 2-0

Hammered Aberdeen aswell
28-03-2021, 04:22 PM
Since90+2

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Originally Posted by Tyler Durden

And Hibs under Ross went to Tynecastle and won 2-0

Hammered Aberdeen aswell

Wouldn't call 2-0 a hammering.
28-03-2021, 04:24 PM
Heisenberg

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Wouldn't call 2-0 a hammering.

I’d guess the poster meant our 3-0 win v them last season.
28-03-2021, 04:40 PM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by Brightside

We are the 3rd best team in Scotland. That’s the narrative.

Fact.
28-03-2021, 04:46 PM
Allez Hibs

This isn't being negative... but, we still need to finish it off and finish 3rd.
28-03-2021, 04:51 PM
WeeRussell

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

This isn't being negative... but, we still need to finish it off and finish 3rd.

Absolutely. The job is there to be done thanks to a good season so far., but needs completing all the same.

If we do go on and finish it off, what will the narrative be?
28-03-2021, 04:51 PM
Danderhall Hibs

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

I’d guess the poster meant our 3-0 win v them last season.

Often not included in the “big game” chat.
28-03-2021, 04:53 PM
WeeRussell

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

Often not included in the “big game” chat.

That’ll be because the majority of those obsessing over “big games” are those looking for ways to knock Jack Ross.
28-03-2021, 05:01 PM
jeffers

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Originally Posted by WeeRussell

That’ll be because the majority of those obsessing over “big games” are those looking for ways to knock Jack Ross.

We had two very winnable semis and he blew them both. I wouldn’t say it’s obsessing it’s valid criticism IMO.
28-03-2021, 05:03 PM
Since90+2

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Originally Posted by jeffers

We had two very winnable semis and he blew them both. I wouldn’t say it’s obsessing it’s valid criticism IMO.

Agreed.

I like Jack Ross but losing those two games are a blemish on an otherwise pretty impressive record at Hibs. The Hearts one especially was a really bad one to lose.
28-03-2021, 05:04 PM
Wilson

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Originally Posted by jeffers

We had two very winnable semis and he blew them both. I wouldn’t say it’s obsessing it’s valid criticism IMO.

Folk obsessing about people obsessing about ways to knock Jack Ross... are going to drag us back down this rabbit hole!
28-03-2021, 05:04 PM
Danderhall Hibs

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Originally Posted by jeffers

We had two very winnable semis and he blew them both. I wouldn’t say it’s obsessing it’s valid criticism IMO.

It’s a valid criticism but not a noose round his neck.
28-03-2021, 05:05 PM
jeffers

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

It’s a valid criticism but not a noose round his neck.

I agree.
28-03-2021, 06:22 PM
WeeRussell

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Originally Posted by jeffers

We had two very winnable semis and he blew them both. I wouldn’t say it’s obsessing it’s valid criticism IMO.

Maybe. My point was around people choosing to forget the ‘big games’ he has won when making those claims. That being because it doesn’t suit.
28-03-2021, 06:24 PM
Allez Hibs

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Originally Posted by WeeRussell

Maybe. My point was around people choosing to forget the ‘big games’ he has won when making those claims. That being because it doesn’t suit.

He has won 3 big games in about 16.
28-03-2021, 07:14 PM
Danderhall Hibs

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

He has won 3 big games in about 16.

It’s the “shock jock” nature of posts like this that get folks back up.
28-03-2021, 07:22 PM
Allez Hibs

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

It’s the “shock jock” nature of posts like this that get folks back up.

Might be a bit facetious but I do hope the players and managers backs are up going up to Aberdeen to get a result to prove we are the 3rd best side in the league. Chip on the shoulder to see it over the line.
28-03-2021, 07:36 PM
blackpoolhibs

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Originally Posted by Allez Hibs

Might be a bit facetious but I do hope the players and managers backs are up going up to Aberdeen to get a result to prove we are the 3rd best side in the league. Chip on the shoulder to see it over the line.

I hope we finish 3rd by one goal, just to annoy the hell out of folk like you.
28-03-2021, 07:37 PM
Allez Hibs

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Originally Posted by WeeRussell

You claiming Jack Ross has won 3 big games in “about 16” is now a stat?

Stat, fact, result, reality or hypocrisy you decide 😂

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