Just the 71 killed post announcement. I suspect there will be hundreds more who die before any ceasefire takes effect.
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Just the 71 killed post announcement. I suspect there will be hundreds more who die before any ceasefire takes effect.
Deal could be stalled according to the news this morning. Israel saying Hamas has backtracked on a couple of points.
Although in an interview, a diplomat was saying these last minute tactics are quite common to try and gain some points here and there.
Hopefully doesn’t derail the whole thing
Seemingly its a dispute on the names of prisoners held by the Israelis that Hamas want released. Can’t see the deal failing though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
The news that the ceasefire is scheduled to start on Sunday means that the Israelis will still be killing Palestinians next week and blaming Hamas, claiming they broke the ceasefire
First of the hostages released. Hopefully this holds.
Israel now stepping up actions in the West Bank, and with crackpots in the US Govt openly say Yes to Israel having 'biblical rights' to annexing it, what's to stop them.
That’s Gaza ****ed, Lebanon degraded, Syria neutralised, time to move back to the West Bank. Trump will be giving a big thumbs up to Netanyahu to craic on.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
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Four ‘hostages’ being released by Hamas. Am I missing something but surely they are Prisoners of War as they are in the Israeli army. Good to see though. The ratio appears to be around one Israeli to around seventy Palestinians.
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Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee
They were part of the group kidnapped during the October 7th attack. There was no 'war' at the time.
It doesn’t feel like this is the end point the Isrealis were looking for. I think this is a pause and reset not a conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee
Apparently Michael Gove thinks the IDF should be give The Nobel Peace Prize.
https://www.thejc.com/opinion/the-id...prize-xmppkld8
No mention of the (minimum) 50,000 dead, many, many thousands injured, the total destruction of homes and infrastructure, murder of aid workers and a litany of other war crimes they have committed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Yeah, I can see why that may be provocative, Mikey boy.
I can only assume he's off his head on something.
Should the thread title now be changed to 'The Israeli Terrorist Invasion of Palestine'?
Snake, must be missing being in the spotlight and very likely some form of hallucinogenic is involved here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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https://braveneweurope.com/declarati...against-israel
All power to them.
Some excellent articles on this website, well worth a visitQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Meanwhile, it looks like the ceasefire is about to collapse. Trump,saying Israel should let 'all hell break loose' if the hostages are not released.
I assume he hasn't seen the current state of Gaza.
I don't know what the aim of Hamas is here by suspending the release but an emboldened Israel is just going to kill many thousands more as a result.
To be fair, when the other lot are bragging about you being ethnically cleansed soon then might be rethinking your options?[emoji2369]Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
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Israel cuts electricity to Gaza
very little food and now no electricity
over 61k murdered
over 14k missing
just shameful
It's despicable and not a word from Europe (I can only assume the US agrees) as Israel continues it's genocidal policies against Palestinians.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Yes completely shameful from Europe where has our ethical (no laughing at the back) foreign policy goneQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
I would expect as Europe decouples from the US that slowly but surely their govts will move more in line with their populations with regard to the Middle East and Palestine.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
The threat from Russia is what concerns everyone more just now though. Correctly IMO.
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I'm not sure that Germany would withdraw support for Israel under any circumstances, barring an AfD government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Was just about to post something similar.
I watch some fantastic TV shows in Germany that highlight and criticize the worst politicians, including the AFD, Trump, Putin, etc but never criticise Israel.... or even mention the atrocities in Gaza and the West Bank.
I've seen plenty of criticism of Israel in the media and even from some politicians, but hell will freeze over before a German government would side with their enemies. They do however send an enormous amount of non military aid to the Palestinians. It's all a bit schizophrenic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czje23jd779t
Israel bombing Gaza again and blame Hamas
No surprise there, I fully expected this to happen. The genocide continues, the denial of food, water and medical aid to civilians is a war crime and supported by our Prime Minister. Shame doesn’t begin to cover it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
In a shock to no one Israel admits to killing 15 aid workers and that the original account given by soldiers was a pile of lies.
I'm sure the soldiers concerned will be given medals for this particular crime.
The Western leadership has been sorely lacking and asleep at the wheelQuote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
I see the Israelis are now creating a 1km 'buffer zone' around the border of Gaza (on the Gaza side, obviously).
They're demolishing everything, and have free reign to kill everybody within this area, Red Crescent and UN aid workers included
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...stimony-report
Starmer, Macron, Scholz (and Merz), et-al... where is the criticism of these heinous events?
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Was just about to post this link. Good on the military personnel for speaking out and telling as it is. Absolutely brutal stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Starmer’s too busy shafting the poor, sick, disabled and elderly in this country. Not that he would criticise them anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Didn’t he advocate cutting the water and power to Gaza?Quote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
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When?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://x.com/MiddleEastMnt/status/1742919127290003852Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
When was this? Do we know that’s still his stance now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Bee
* edit I see its from Jan 24. A lot has changed in Gaza since then. Not that I’m defending that position even in the early days of the invasion.
He commented that Israel had a legal right to deprive the Gazans of food, water and powerQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Israel continues to block aid into Gaza, effectively starving civilians to death.
Why is there no international outcry?
What is Starmer doing about this?
The lack of any noticeable outrage over, or condemnation of, Israel's actions from our political 'leaders' is now depressing the hell out of me.
It's bad enough the nutjob far right leaders in the US are now actively banning protests against these atrocities, but the supposedly more open-minded, enlightened European leaders are nowhere to be seen.
Come on Starmer, et-al, bloody say something and stop kowtowing to the pro-Israel lobby!!!
Yep it is simply genocide with the west having no moral leadership and actively supporting it. Depressing as hell where we are todayQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
All legal and above board, according to the Zionist Starmer. Suggesting otherwise will get you labelled as an “antisemite”.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
This is the state of the party that people voted in to power. None of what the Labour Party does now should come as a great surprise to anyone. The signs were there long before the election of the direction they were heading.
I was at a ceremony marking the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Bergen Belsen Concentration Camp yesterday. I've been there before but a reminder at this time of the industrial scale of the extermination of groups of people deemed to be vermin, only makes it more baffling that a state built in the aftermath of such events can do what it is doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
My Aunt was stationed close to there so have been a few times. Weirdly I was more moved than Auswitz which is more intact, horrendousQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx27z0r8n5do
Another probable violation of international law by Israel but those government terrorists won't give a stuff.
Neither will our Govt.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvqr00278no
Pretty surprising that this remains possible, given how much US firepower has been launched into Yemen over the past few weeks.
They still manage to fire rockets from Gaza.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesie
The only two way to get rid of the problem is peace or genocide.
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Bit easier to fire a rocket into Israel from Gaza than a missile from 2,500km away, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Iranians provide both. Just a different rocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesie
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Seems like we have went to war with Yemen now. I can’t remember much debate in parliament about this?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy04km1zk0o
Israel approves plans to occupy northern Gaza and 'move' the civilian population south. A shameless land grab which is, of course, totally ignored (or perhaps backed) by our Government.
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Originally Posted by DaveF
Wir brauchen Lebensraum
If you haven't already, then watch Louis Theroux's "The Settlers" on BBC iPlayer. They're as close to pure evil as you can get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Starmer expresses 'deep concern' so that will send shockwaves down Tel Aviv way, right enough.
Indeed, horrific stuff, behind many atrocities lies religion, or people who claim the right to do it in the name of their particular religion or cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
The current Israeli leadership is practicing genocide on the "battlefield" and ethnic cleansing of a region simultaneously.
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The man who wanted to cut of their water and stop food getting in?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
No doubt he’ll make sure we arm them properly though.
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The very same. Our Prime Minister, the leader of a party once thought to be on the side of the oppressed. Beyond shamefulQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Cheers, I'll have a look.
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Starmer getting his wish.
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The sickening Israeli genocide continues, bombing a hospital.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqglvlwzx5o
I’m finding it more and more difficult to read and watch the news about this. It is ethnic cleansing. We had it in Bosnia and nobody did anything. Then Rwanda and now Palestine. It is totally sickening what is going onQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
It’s supported by Starmer and the Labour Party,Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorrie
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THE Co-op could stop selling Israeli products as early as this summer after board members voted in favour of a boycott.
A motion proposed at the Co-op AGM (annual general meeting) calling for a cease to all trading with Israel was backed by around 75% of members
The motion called on the board to demonstrate “moral courage and leadership” by removing Israeli goods from store shelves.
Citing the Co-op’s previous decision to “boycott Russian products” following the invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the motion read: “We urge the board to show moral courage and leadership, apply the same ethical principles and values it did to Russia, and take all Israeli products off the shelves.”
The board said it will consider the thoughts of members expressed by the non-binding vote.
A brave move, no doubt there will be accusations of the Co-op board being anti-Semitic as that seems to be the response if anyone is critical of the Israeli state.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
I can remember when a lot of consumers and retailers boycotted South African products back in their apartheid days. Unsure of what difference it really makes on the larger political stage but if the growers and farmers at the bottom of the food chain start to feel the pinch it might make those higher up take note.
Happy to move my shopping to them if they go through with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales
'This will make Jewish Shoppers feel uncomfortable' will be one of the (nonsense) responses.
I was never sure of the impact of the SA boycott. I tended to think that the real losers were the farmers themselves, the very people that the SA Government weren't interested in listening to.Quote:
Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales
A similar attitude probably prevails in the Israeli government ("we know better")
What does Israel supply in the way of foodQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...d-preparationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
I wouldn’t hurry as their shelves are empty after their cyber attackQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Been in a few Scotmid’s last week or so, and the stock situation is worse than M&S
As a resident of a small town that only has a coop it's been bad but getting better. Fruit and veg was almost full this morning, still gaps in the yoghurt, crisp and booze aisle. Even the staff don't know what is coming in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Yes it is, sorry to mention stocks of food, when I read what’s going on in GazaQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Breaks your heart
One pitta bread and a single rationed cooked meal a day for civilians to prevent accusations of 'war crimes' says the Israeli foreign minister.
They are total psychopaths.
It's something but I suspect it will end up being nothing more than hot air. As long as the US backs this genocide (and it will) then Israel's own version of Hitler, won't stop.
Disgraceful it’s taken this long. It’s only words though, no action?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
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Very big on words and no action is Starmer. There is nothing he, or the Labour Party, could do that would make me ever consider voting for them again, having done so for almost 50 years up until 2023Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
UK suspends trade talks with Israel and summons their ambassador.
I can only hope this is just the start of the actions otherwise it's absolutely worthless.
Golan’s remarks drew a furious response from Netanyahu, who accused the former general of “wild incitement” and “echoing the most despicable antisemitic blood libels against IDF soldiers and the State of Israel”.
If you need an example of how the word "antisemitic" has become meaningless, Netanyahu bouncing it at a former IDF general is surely the textbook case.
And, according to Israel, the UK, France and Canada are on the wrong side of history for taking a stand (of sorts).
The wrong side of history, for mildly opposing a genocide? Get me off this planet.
I have just watched Starmer and Lammy on the ITV news. Spewing,what a pair of hypocrites. A joint statement being issued with other countries? Effing pointless.
Any actions taken other than those taken by the USA are pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
At the very least we can stop selling arms/ arms components to Israel, freeze any assets any Israel’s have in the UK and a ban on goods imported from Israel. We could arrest individuals who come to the UK. And we can urge other countries to do the same.If we are not prepared to take some kind of practical action then just shut up, it has no effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY
I had an American customer who came in a large group who I began to follow on social media. Now blocked because of their unmitigated support for the genocide in Palestine.
Fantastic Hummus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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The Labour Party.
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FfsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
And it continues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0eq9lq7xr1o
Still this govt does nothing worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by DaveF
Don't worry, they'll be taking 'concrete action' very soon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y2kd1nkleo
How is this being allowed to happen?
What the **** is our Govt doing?
dunno the in and outs etc etc but Malta has announced it will recognise Palestine as a sovereign state on June 20th
Allowing arms to be sent to Israel and flying drone reconnaissance missions for Israel. Complicity at its bestQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Starmer is all in with Isreal. Remember he wants to cut of the water and electricity supply to Gaza. And like Blair before him he has no problem with bombing the Middle East.Quote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
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"Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reiterated on Tuesday plans to relocate Gaza's entire population to a "sterile zone" in the south of the territory while Israeli troops continue fighting Hamas elsewhere. He also vowed to facilitate what he described as the "voluntary emigration" of much of Gaza's population to other countries - a plan many view as forcible expulsion"
This war criminal just carries on regardless and still all the UK Govt does is stand by looking on.
Given the unduly powerful influence of Labour Friends of Israel and Starmer's deep personal connection to Judaism, no surprise that all we will get is British collusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Old link, but still relevant- https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis...f-israel-list/
"17 of Keir Starmer’s 31 shadow cabinet members are listed as LFI parliamentary supporters on the deleted page. That includes Starmer himself, shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves who is a vice-chair and shadow foreign secretary David Lammy. Labour’s national campaign coordinator Pat McFadden is also listed as a vice-chair.
"Reeves told an LFI vigil after the 7 October Hamas attack:
I also know that many of you have concerns closer to home, about the antisemitism, the anti-Zionism and the anti-Israeli feeling that is allowed to flourish in some communities in Britain.
And so we stand alongside you here at home as well and will ensure that the police do everything within their powers to hold responsible anybody who behaves in that way here at home.
She was later labeled “unhinged” on social media as she lumped in critics of Israel with antisemitism and appeared to call for police action for political opinion".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0k3d1y10pzo
All going to plan for Starmer and the Labour Party.
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Israel kills hungry civilians at distribution points set up and managed by Israel.
Modern day Nazis.