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He is a prick and one of the most disliked people in world rugby. I've said it before on this thread but England will Hoover up the best talent from all over the world as they pay the most money. And it is a joke for him to talk like that. Hartley, cokanasiga, underhill, Tuilagi, Vinupola x 2, Heinz all foreign born. And that's just off the top of my headQuote:
Originally Posted by nellio
Is it on TV at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by nellio
thank goodness for grandparents :greengrin
this seasons six nations squad foreigners
Scotland -16
Wales.......11
Italy............8
Ireland.......8
England.....4
France.........4
P.S. i freakin detest eddie jones :agree:
P.P.S. i fancy a french win today :(
hope we're nor in for a hiding here
great kick from weir 6-6
some stupid penalties here
don't see many drop goals nowadays 9-6 france
9-9
Good game so far.
what a freakin awful penalty to give away straight fron the restart, amateur, i feel for townsend
12-9 france,
has anyone ever saw a scottish side actually take advantage of a penalty advantage :rolleyes:
another great kuck from weir 12-12
great defence to stop a french try HT 12-12
It's quite interesting to hear the referee coming to then explaining a decision, and without any histrionics from the players.
French try within 2 mins of the restart, that'll be that
19-12. sigh
as i said earlier we never take full advantage of an advantage:rolleyes: anyways.. 19-15
even when we get a lineout we didn't deserve we make an absolute james hunt of it, i think ritchie has had a pretty poor game
my goodness even one last chance is totally ****** up with a terrible kick by hogg, dreadful kick
I'd like Wayne Barnes to never referee a Scotland game again. Some of his penalties against us were a result of him unable to contain himself in blowing the whistle (especially the not releasing and not rolling away penalties).
France deserved their win, no arguments - they were the better side when it counted.
said that to my wife during the game!! Barnes is a shocking ref and it went just the penalties he gave against us for me, it was the stuff he let go when he should have awarded pens to Scotland. Wasn't a bad game with two very solid defences, not much in it except for one bit of good attacking play from France. They are an excellent side at the moment so not too disheartened
Conditions in Glasgow for the Munster game are horrific. Unsurprisingly, lots of handling errors all over the pitch so far!
League grand final tonight at 8pm. Wigan v Saints.
What a game. The tackling is ferociousQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
First super league game I have watched in a while. Been decent.
I can not wait to get back to watching the Keighley Cougars.
Despite the score line its been a good game so far . I assume the half time hooter is automatically sounded if not the guy in charge would've been rather embarrassed if that penalty had' ever been missed
If missed in normal play it would have been a drop out. As HT hooter went prior to it been taken it was always HT as soon as it was kicked or missed.
A wee bit off putting for the kickers concentration though having it go off as your preparingQuote:
Originally Posted by HH81
1st try after an hours play. Some defending. One of the Saints players has made 62 tackles!
What a game. Saint Helens win on the last play. Sport at its best
astonishing finish, bet365 wouldn't let me cash out for £25 with 2 mins remaining....so they ended up paying me £57 instead :)
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
A brilliant game with an unbelievable ending.
Hardaker will be gutted after hitting the bar and then missing again with 2mins to go.
Both teams have it everything. Outstanding stuff.
all blacks back to winning ways this morning routing argentina 38-zilch
france v italy tonight
poor stuff from british airways this morning
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Especially considering they have a major facility at Cardiff airport!!Quote:
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Originally Posted by nellio
maybe the BA stands for Boris Airways :)
anyways...bit of a farce for the England v France final with the French having to field quite a youthful side and no experience or Dupont
Ireland v Scotland for 3rd/4th place
Wales v Italy for 5th/6th
but at least we finally get to see the Fijians play Georgia
Australia v Argentina early doors Sat
Gregor gone for a different look this week. Pleased to see Darcy back in though I am a little surprised to see Duncan Weir dropped. He's looked great in the recent games - having said that, Van Der Walt is a class act at 10 and I'm delighted to see him being called into the Scotland setup (though as an Edinburgh man, I'm probably biased).Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Van der Walt was always going to move Weir out. I like Duncy and he is a decent player but he will now be behind Russell, Hastings and Van der Walt.
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Originally Posted by Sylar
i've been surprised at how good his kicking has been :agree: he's had a couple of decent performances, i don't think i've actually saw van der walt but i always seem to forget whenever Edinburgh/Glasgow teams are on the tellybox
This referee is utterly, utterly dreadful. Two bull**** decisions = 2 Irish tries.
I don’t understand that last Irish penalty, how is Fraser Brown supposed to roll away when there are 2 players on top of him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Lack of discipline AGAIN.
I’d agree based on some of the penalties but Taylor should NEVER have been sinbinned, there was no clarity on grounding for Ireland’s second try and their third try was as clear a forward pass as you’ll see! And how Fraser Brown is expected to move anywhere is a total mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Some poor decisions from Scotland’s players (especially at the breakdowns) but the ref was appalling.
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Originally Posted by Sylar
also thought he was a bit blasé about the possible eye gouging incident - “I’ll have one quick look and then we’re moving on”
eye gouging is a pretty serious offence, and would normally be properly checked, but he seemed to be keen to move things on as fast as he could
I was surprised it wasn’t scrutinised as closely as Scotland’s overall discipline was in the breakdown of play, especially in the tackle.Quote:
Originally Posted by McD
Might just be the ones in my head but Ritchie seemed to cop it particularly badly today. Maybe a hard lesson to learn that they have to give the refs no excuses - we have the worst record in the ANC, so it isn’t one game and one referee.
Agree with all, hard lesson learned today, but as I said to McD our record is poor when it comes to silly things at the breakdown, we must take a leaf out of the books of others and learn to be more controlled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Have just seen the highlights and how on earth that knock on was ruled deliberate is beyond belief.
i think the french gave away 18 penalties in that game...the last one costing them dearly, brave performance though from their 2nd team, they still had the chance in regulation time by going 7 points ahead with just three minutes remaining but you just knew they would gift yet another penalty from the restart and they duly obliged by losing a converted try, all credit goes to the young french team though imo, a full french team would have won that i think
I think that the Taylor sin-binning was harsh, but I can see why the referee gave it. I said to myself when I saw the first replay that it looked like he instinctively stuck his hand out to block the ball. So hard to tell though, so I still think it was harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
On the grounding of the ball, the referee gave the try so he had clearly seen the grounding. If the on-field decision is a try then the TMO has to see clear evidence that it shouldn't be a try to reverse the decision, there was nothing clear so they stuck with the on-field decision.
If the referee had said that he couldn't see if it was grounded properly and asked the TMO to check the grounding, or if he had said "try, yes or no?" then the decision may have been different as the TMO could say there's no clear grounding and not award the try.
This is the correct way to do things, the referee is still in charge and should take responsibility and make decisions, so they should, wherever possible, make a decision and ask the TMO to check if there's any reason it should be over turned rather than going to the TMO to get a decision made.
The final pass to Earls certainly was caught in front of where it was passed, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was a forward pass according to how the laws are interpreted at the minute. It is currently interpreted by looking at the hands of the player passing the ball and not the motion of the ball. If the hands pass the ball backwards it is considered a backwards pass, even if the ball travels forwards. If a player is running forward, the ball has forward momentum, so even if it is passed backwards it can still travel forward because of its forward momentum, in order to give the benefit to attacking teams and try to boost try scoring, this forward momentum is allowed if the player passes the ball backwards.
To me it looked like O'Mahony's hands were passing the ball backwards, so even though the ball travelled forward it is classed as a backwards pass.
Superb game going on in Belfast just now - Heineken Cup - Ulster currently lead Toulouse 12-7, after racing into a 2 try lead.
very tough game for Edinburgh tonight v present french league toppers La Rochelle 8PM ko
Great to see us back to full strength, but deary me are La Rochelle an impressive side. They move the ball so quickly!
0-8 so far.
3-8 HT
La Rochelle by far the better side, but we've defended well to keep it so close. Hardly ventured into their 22!
Been looking forward to having us back to full strength for weeks, but this really is a challenging first fixture, post-internationals.
that was some scoreline from yesterday afternoon
Bristol 38 Clermont 51 long time i've saw one as high as that
Exeter v Glasgow this afternoon....stuart hogg and jonny gray in the exeter team
42-0 twas a hammering both Gray and Hogg scoring a try
meanwhile the draw for the WC in france takes place tomorrow...
- Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
- Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
- Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
- Band 4: Americas 1, Americas 2, Europe 1, Europe 2
- Band 5: Africa 1, Oceania 1, Asia / Pacific 1, Final Qualifier Winners
Very tough draw getting South Africa and Ireland need to play out our skin to qualify imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by JimBHibees
i'm saying right here, right now...we won't qualify :(
anyways, the Glasgow v Edinburgh fixture on 27th dec has been postponed with at least four covid cases and those still isolating in the glasgow squad, hopefully the return fixture on 2nd january will still go ahead.
van der walt misses a last minute conversion so glasgow hold out to win 23-22
then glasgow miss a last kick penalty in time added on
Thought Glasgow ultimately deserver their win - that restart in the second half was phenomenal, to get themselves well clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Some great young players in that Glasgow team too - young Ross Thompson had a great game tonight.
Really not been a great year from an Edinburgh perspective!
Six nations is back today. Won't be the same without crowds and I can't remember the last time didn't actually go to one of the games either home or away. Really looking forward to seeing Redpath in a blue jersey. Think it will be between England and France for the championship but Scotland will do well i think.
Italy are pretty poor, France on easy street for most of this game
So damned nervous. Never seen us win at Twickenham: this is a good team today...but im never confident against England.
Proud family today as young Cameron Redpath makes his debut. Come on Scotland!!!
Why are the players socially distanced for the anthems? They are literally going to be scrumming, rucking and breathing and sweating all over each other in 5 minutes time.
8-0 up after 32 minutes. Thoroughly deserved been a great start
We are the better team here, can't say I've ever watched Scotland at Twickenham play so well. England guaranteed to win now 😂
Scotland are all over England. Could be out of sight.
This is the best I have seen. You wouldn’t know we were down to 14 at the start of second half. Unreal
We should be 5 ahead on kicks and at least a try up.....like watching Hibs sometimes, gotta take our chances!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
We all know how this ends...Quote:
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Game over.
MOTM for the Hibs man as well.
fantastic result :thumbsup: well done Sconnie Botland
the cups coming home
What a weekend this is turning into!
We've not been ourselves today... that was a thoroughly professional performance. What a day!
What a result. Fact they kept mentioning it would be first win in England in my lifetime makes it even better
That was incredible. We p***** all over them!!
Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss. What a ducking performance. Could have been 6-25. Absolutely over the moon. What a day of sporting happiness
Brilliant! All of a sudden the world is feeling a better place! I think I'm entitled to a few wee goldies tonight. 🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃
Just wow !!!!!!
How complete a performance was that.
Completely dominated them. I would guess all the figures will show that England have never been so humiliated in the 6 nations at home, EVER 😀😀😀😀
Aye, Hoggy is a frequent visitor to Easter Road. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
only the 4th time Scotland has won our opening game in the six nations....and the first away from home
three home games this year, away to france
Wow. I don't understand how emotional I get watching Scotland's rugby team. Don't know half the rules. Been to only about 10 matches but still get sucked in.
Not a rugby fan at all but great result, well done Scotland.
The game grows on you I can assure you.👍Quote:
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Enjoy your Monkey’s Shoulder tonight, John. I’ll settle for two or three Highland Parks. :aok:
Italy 10 France 50
earlier today
Days like today make watching Scotland rugby worthwhile. So many frustrations in the past but that was immense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
The English must be shell shocked
Get it supremely right ****ing roond ye Eddie Jones.
Nothing better than seeing him come out with his usual pre match nonsense trying to be smart and then seeing it thrown right back in his face.
Pleasing doesn't do it justice.
Definitely entitled tonight Jim.Quote:
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Don’t know much about rugby but is Jones their equivalent of McInnes? (Asking for a friend)Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
Out of interest was there a reason so many players on each team didn't take a knee pre match? I think only 5 or 6 Scotland players did.
I'm not judging anyone, just curious as to whether it was a collective decision. It seems to have been universally accepted by football players and I had assumed rugby would have been similar.
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scotland have so many talented players, it’s great to see them all bringing that performance together, and also getting their just rewards
had that been an All Blacks/Australia/South Africa team instead of Scotland, it would be getting feted around the world as an ominous performance from a team looking to do damage at the World Cup - we should be taking this performance as an indicator that we can do that if we can nail the consistency
Billy Vunipola's take on things;Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
"A similar situation happened with the Black Lives Matter movement last week when we were asked if we want to take a knee or not.
"What I saw in terms of that movement was not aligned with what I believe in. They were burning churches and Bibles. I can't support that.
"Even though I am a person of colour, I'm still more a person of, I guess, Jesus."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spo...10206.amp.html
Elated. Im still high as a kite. It wasn’t a sparkling offensive performance (should have been more clinical) but defensively was incredible. Hope we can build on that next week against Wales.
The defence was magnificent, I'm no expert but, can't recall Scotland putting up a defensive effort of such gargantuan proportions before. (Pity I knew the outcome before settling down to watch it).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
I'm not a huge follower of rugby and (like a lot of people I suspect) only really watch the 6 nations and world cup matches - and that's when I remember.
However, I can't ever remember seeing England being dominated/tamed like that, especially at Twickenham.
what a chance blown right at the end for ireland, penalty on 84 mins obviously goes for touch and missed completely, terrible kick, still though a brave challenge considering they only had 14 players for an hour, first red card for an irish player in the six nations
FT wales 21 ireland 16
There was only one winner when Ireland were down to 14 for 65 minutes. Having played with a man short a few times it is a nightmare and as the game goes on you are totally knackered. Having watched Wales though I think we will be too good for them next week and I thought that way before our performance yesterday
I gather that there was a collective agreement prior to the autumn internationals that players wouldn't take the knee and that support for BLM would be shown by the rugby authorities in other ways eg there was an anti-racism message broadcast on TV screens as players lined up for the national anthems. I think it was assumed this would continue for the Six Nations (the same pre-match message appeared on screens) and while none of the Irish, Welsh, French or Italian players took the knee several of the England players for some reason decided to do so. A couple of the Scotland players noticed this and did likewise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
If we can play as cohesively as we did on Saturday then yes I reckon we have a great chance of beating Wales, but it would be fairly typical of Scotland to fall short after such a promising display. It's also a big ask in international rugby, even in the pro era, for players to get back to that level just a week after a game as intense as Saturday's.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Scotland V Wales tomorrow. First time I've missed this fixture at Murrayfield. I'm Welsh but I live here, work here got married here and my wife and Son are Scottish so even if we lose (which I think we will) I'd rather lose to no one else.
I shouted so loudly when you beat England last week I woke my boy up who was asleep in the other room. If (when) you beat us I will be right behind you for a grand slam. Mon the Scots.
I don't think there's any 'when' about it - this will be a tough game and you looked really resilient last week against Ireland. The loss of Ritchie and Redpath is unfortunate, but to bring in quality like Blade and Darcy is a good sign for us - Darcy and Duhan on opposite wings is great to have, especially with North missing out.Quote:
Originally Posted by nellio
Like you, I'll miss this game not being in person. In my personal opinion, there's no finer atmosphere in Edinburgh than when the Welsh are in town - I absolutely love them and many a great night has been had afterward with them in pubs across the Toon.
Try for Italy vs England two minutes in :faf:
Won't last but absolute pleasing.
poor old Italy though. You have to wonder how they keep going, getting pumped by everyone every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
Gruesome injury, thankfully not too many replays.
Ouch!
That looked absolutely awful. When you are hoping it's 'only' an ACL you know it's bad.
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I think they have to start considering a play-off or straight promotion and relegation, Italy just aren't developing and are being left behind.
How popular is rugby in Italy?Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
It's obviously the dominant sport in Wales, it's a large minority sport in Ireland, is huge in the south of France in particular, in terms of attendance it's behind only the top 2 football leagues in England and there are large rugby strongholds across Scotland.
Is there a desire to really invest in and improve rugby in Italy?
I feel for Willis. Very promising young player and it was a horrible tackle.