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13-01-2014, 06:45 PM
QMU-1875

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

As I have said before the likelyhood is Hibs may sign 1 or 2 players but at least 3 or 4 are free to leave. Most other clubs will at least balance their transfer dealings.

In essence if Hearts use this loophole by selling players or terminating young player's contracts and bringing more experienced in they effectively don't have an embargo at all.

They have a ban on signing players over the age of 21, also the 'loophole' isn't really one, it can only be used in emergencies and even then football associations tend to be reluctant, it's normally only for goalkeepers.
13-01-2014, 06:47 PM
Aldo

Remember the last time they signed 2 in loan from Liverpool. Ended up being really cheap as they didn't pay Liverpool what they were due - over 40 grand.
13-01-2014, 06:48 PM
The Green Goblin

If they brought one in, a more experienced player, how on earth would they pay them anyway?
13-01-2014, 06:51 PM
greenginger

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Originally Posted by Skol

Was the 1 in 1 out for Wilson not his original loan signing last winter.....which ironically they didnt ever pay Liverpool for and it stands as one of their debts

Correct ! Their reserve goalie/coach and Mcgowan off to China went out and they were allowed to sign Wilson and Ngoo as loans from Liverpool as long as the wages were no more than the outgoing pair.

Well the last part of the deal was kept, ..... paid Liverpool F.A. :greengrin
13-01-2014, 06:52 PM
lord bunberry

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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin

If they brought one in, a more experienced player, how on earth would they pay them anyway?

They're hearts, they wouldn't. If they can't even pay for a wreath at their own memorial why would they pay for loan players.
13-01-2014, 06:53 PM
GoldenEagle

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Originally Posted by MyJo

Make up your mind spfl??

Winter 2014

Stating that the rules would not be changed, he added that Hearts could apply to register a new player under the "one in, one out" principle.

It is understood that the Edinburgh team have indicated they wish to bring in at least one player.

Doncaster said: "Last summer Hearts applied for Danny Wilson to be brought in and they made it clear which player he was replacing.

"The board looked at it and sanctioned Danny Wilson’s registration at that point.

"If Hearts wish to register an individual player then the process is very clear and there’s no question of changing the rules.

"The rules are clear, it has been the case since last summer and these were the rules we used last summer.

Summer 2013

An SPFL statement read: "The SPFL player registration of Heart of Midlothian FC player Danny Wilson would, had he not agreed a contract extension, have terminated on 30 June.
"The SPFL has now received documents extending the contract of the player.
"As a result, the player's existing SPFL registration is automatically extended and is not affected by the embargo on new SPFL player registrations currently in place on Heart of Midlothian FC as a result of Heart of Midlothian plc (in administration) being in administration."

So was he signed on the one out one in rule of was he signed because his registration was still with hearts when he agreed a contract.

Doncaster is a mug

Whoops, wonder how Neil will explain this one.

We demand transparency! :greengrin
13-01-2014, 06:53 PM
tamig

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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin

If they brought one in, a more experienced player, how on earth would they pay them anyway?

Because a load of their former heroes are queuing up to play for them for nowt. So the KB'ers would have you believe.
13-01-2014, 06:54 PM
Spike Mandela

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Originally Posted by QMU-1875

They have a ban on signing players over the age of 21, also the 'loophole' isn't really one, it can only be used in emergencies and even then football associations tend to be reluctant, it's normally only for goalkeepers.

This part appears to be urban myth QMU. Apparently they can bring in a like for like player on a similar or lesser contract than the one departing.
13-01-2014, 06:57 PM
Hermit Crab

Skacel can't sign as he's over 21 have I got that right?
13-01-2014, 06:58 PM
tamig

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

This part appears to be urban myth QMU. Apparently they can bring in a like for like player on a similar or lesser contract than the one departing.

I don't think the rule says anything like that. It says one out/one in which the board will consider on a case by case basis. Don't think there's anything about the contract. That was part of their punishment at the end of 2012/start of 2013 - that they could only replace "like for like." I'm sure that was a one-off punishment made up at that time and not part of the new rules which came into play in the summer.
13-01-2014, 06:59 PM
Spike Mandela

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Skacel can't sign as he's over 21 have I got that right?

Nobody knows. Depends on the SPFL fudge factor used.:cb
13-01-2014, 07:00 PM
TheReg!

I hope they do sign big nose so he gets relegated with the tramps!
13-01-2014, 07:01 PM
Aldo

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Maradona knows the script

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13-01-2014, 07:06 PM
Biggie

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Originally Posted by Aldo

Maradona knows the script

Attachment 11796

:not worth:top marks
13-01-2014, 07:09 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Nobody knows. Depends on the SPFL fudge factor used.:cb

One man can't save them anyway. Goodwin will blooter him anyway.
13-01-2014, 07:10 PM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by tamig

Because a load of their former heroes are queuing up to play for them for nowt. So the KB'ers would have you believe.

If that's the case, hopefully Zaliukus will be one of them as his current going rate must be nothing. What a performance for Leeds at the weekend, error strewn and never tried a leg. Suspect he has played his last game for Leeds - fans don't appear that happy with him.
13-01-2014, 07:35 PM
Spike Mandela

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Originally Posted by tamig

I don't think the rule says anything like that. It says one out/one in which the board will consider on a case by case basis. Don't think there's anything about the contract. That was part of their punishment at the end of 2012/start of 2013 - that they could only replace "like for like." I'm sure that was a one-off punishment made up at that time and not part of the new rules which came into play in the summer.

I'm sure I heard/seen Doncaster say that today.

Edit here it is......

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/h...xisting-rules/

However SPFL rules allow for teams under the embargo to apply to replace players who have left on a comparable or lower salary, at the league board's discretion.
13-01-2014, 07:37 PM
Jack Hackett

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Originally Posted by Aldo

Maradona knows the script

Attachment 11796

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You're on fire tonight Aldo
13-01-2014, 07:37 PM
Kato

It's a common theme in the MSM, especially Ewan Murray, when talking about the reason for Hearts downfall that they put forward euphemisms like "business problems", "UGBIG's profits fell" and the ultimately vague "Global recession".

No one from their side is interested at all that Romanov is a fugitive, wanted for serious financial fraud.
13-01-2014, 07:39 PM
Jack Hackett

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

If that's the case, hopefully Zaliukus will be one of them as his current going rate must be nothing. What a performance for Leeds at the weekend, error strewn and never tried a leg. Suspect he has played his last game for Leeds - fans don't appear that happy with him.

He's got his extended contract. he doesn't gie a **** now :wink:
13-01-2014, 07:40 PM
happiehibbie

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25710173

simple really lets try another way can we sign a player pls EH NAW !!

wonder if the player they want is they guy with the big nose of course it is WHY because the dafties will think it will put bums on seats to get there crowds up too 16k
13-01-2014, 07:42 PM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett

He's got his extended contract. he doesn't gie a **** now :wink:

Aye, he should be alright as long as he stays in all week and disnae go anywhere near Elland Road on match days. Or maybe those nice Leeds fans will go easy on him because he used to play for a big team.
13-01-2014, 07:43 PM
Jack Hackett

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Originally Posted by Kato

It's a common theme in the MSM, especially Ewan Murray, when talking about the reason for Hearts downfall that they put forward euphemisms like "business problems", "UGBIG's profits fell" and the ultimately vague "Global recession".

No one from their side is interested at all that Romanov is a fugitive, wanted for serious financial fraud.

....and it was the recession that showed him up for the lying cheating fraudster that he is, otherwise they'd still be singing his praises

"Stay safe, sweet Prince"
13-01-2014, 07:50 PM
brog

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Whoops, wonder how Neil will explain this one.

We demand transparency! :greengrin

I saw Doncaster on TV tonight perpetrating the myth that everyone associated with the Yams' misdemeanours has left the club. That would be everyone except the Chief Executive, self-sufficient Southern who has been there for 40 months, ie nearly 3 years before Yams entered Admin. We demand transparency & accuracy!
13-01-2014, 07:59 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett

....and it was the recession that showed him up for the lying cheating fraudster that he is, otherwise they'd still be singing his praises

To an extent. I think the failure of Vlad's plan lies very much at his own door. His stated plan was to filter players through Hearts/Kaunas to the EPL, with the hope being he could return the money to UKIO - and the ordinary/corporate investors there would be none the wiser that he splashing their cash. The most productive part of his "empire", the Birac Plant failed (as you say because of the recession) hamstringing him, but he did far more damage himself with his behaviour at Hearts. If he had left a professional to manage the club he could have coined in some dough with transfer fees, far more than he actually did. The tampering, tinkering and faxing he got up to ensured Hearts underperformed, they should have done far better given the money spent - the up and down nature of their form and shoving too many players through the club meant the transfer money dried up after the male lesbian and the guy they sold to the Baggies. Then again maybe such a plan didn't exist and he was happy to tinker with everything as he was only washing others people's money.
13-01-2014, 07:59 PM
Hibernia Na Eir

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Originally Posted by TheReg!

I hope they do sign big nose so he gets relegated with the tramps!

Now that WOULD be hugely amusing :-)
13-01-2014, 08:10 PM
Jack Hackett

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Originally Posted by Kato

To an extent. I think the failure of Vlad's plan lies very much at his own door. His stated plan was to filter players through Hearts/Kaunas to the EPL, with the hope being he could return the money to UKIO - and the ordinary/corporate investors there would be none the wiser that he splashing their cash. The most productive part of his "empire", the Birac Plant failed (as you say because of the recession) hamstringing him, but he did far more damage himself with his behaviour at Hearts. If he had left a professional to manage the club he could have coined in some dough with transfer fees, far more than he actually did. The tampering, tinkering and faxing he got up to ensured Hearts underperformed, they should have done far better given the money spent - the up and down nature of their form and shoving too many players through the club meant the transfer money dried up after the male lesbian and the guy they sold to the Baggies. Then again maybe such a plan didn't exist and he was happy to tinker with everything as he was only washing others people's money.

The actions of a true sociopath....nah, I'll use the old word, it rings truer....psychopath
13-01-2014, 08:11 PM
poolman

There really is some mind-boggling posts on Yakbak tonight

My vote goes to David Attenborough who has to be the biggest
Numpty who really should not be out without his full-time carer
13-01-2014, 08:31 PM
Www1875hfc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHgQCwjJJY
13-01-2014, 08:36 PM
SurferRosa

http://www.teamtalk.com/scottish-pre..._medium=twitte

" Doncaster is adamant the embargo will remain in place until Hearts exit administration, but he insists the club can register new players on the one in, one out policy which applied to the signing of defender Danny Wilson in June last year. "

" Hearts can bring forward an application to register an individual player," Doncaster said, "and to do so, simply need to let us see the contract and to make it clear which player they are replacing, as they did with Danny Wilson last summer. "

There`s a registration embargo in place but they CAN sign players. Says nowt about 'exceptional circumstances' there. Says they just need to let the SPFL see the contracts.

So....the point of this embargo is what, exactly?

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