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13-01-2014, 04:57 PM
Spike Mandela

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Originally Posted by ShadesLongThrow

May be stating the obvious but the rule is 'one out, one in' so they need to get rid of someone first. That means they'll not get any emergency cover for the likes of Walker and any of the other wee laddies that are feeling a bit poorly.

And what a fantastic bargaining position Swansea now find themselves in. I wonder if Rod is phoning them now with negotiation techniques?

As I have said before the likelyhood is Hibs may sign 1 or 2 players but at least 3 or 4 are free to leave. Most other clubs will at least balance their transfer dealings.

In essence if Hearts use this loophole by selling players or terminating young player's contracts and bringing more experienced in they effectively don't have an embargo at all.
13-01-2014, 04:59 PM
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13-01-2014, 04:59 PM
Jack Hackett

The vitriol being spat out on keekboak at the news is a fair measure of the total delusion coursing through their veins. Most of these welts actually BELIEVED they'd get a reprieve

:lolyam:
13-01-2014, 05:01 PM
AltheHibby

"The SPFL obviously dont care about the integrity of the league so why should we"

"Just don't field a team on away days! F them".

"See once we are allowed to fight back though... I want every single employee of HMFC and every single supporter to hold a bit of animosity to our league mates when we are back in the Premiership"

Bitter Hobos.

Oh, hang on, that's us. :greengrin
13-01-2014, 05:03 PM
Onion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

As I have said before the likelyhood is Hibs may sign 1 or 2 players but at least 3 or 4 are free to leave. Most other clubs will at least balance their transfer dealings.

In essence if Hearts use this loophole by selling players or terminating young players and bringing more experienced in they effectively don't have an embargo at all.

Nothing has changed. This whole thing boils down to what the SPFL regard as "exceptional circumstances". As many have said before, there is very little in the Hearts squad set up that's exceptional - other than them having to live within their means for a ****ing change :greengrin
13-01-2014, 05:03 PM
the_ginger_hibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Hackett

The vitriol being spat out on keekboak at the news is a fair measure of the total delusion coursing through their veins. Most of these welts actually BELIEVED they'd get a reprieve

:lolyam:

Kickback is great reading tonight.

Haven't heard this kind of seethe since Oldco existed, just waiting for Gary Locke to demand who these faceless wonders are who refused to discuss the situation...
13-01-2014, 05:04 PM
Gus Fring

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Originally Posted by Golden Bear

So now they can get rid of the entire first team squad and replace them with a team of world cup superstars.

It will happen I tell ye.

:rolleyes:

All those World Cup superstars will need to take less wages than the guy who is leaving.

I just finished reading the equivalent thread on Kickback. Was brilliant watching them get all excited at the prospect and then getting the rage when they found it it hadn't even been discussed! How dare they not discuss the woes of the famous!

Reminds me of reading the thread they had for the semi against Falkirk.
13-01-2014, 05:04 PM
Onion

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltheHibby

"The SPFL obviously dont care about the integrity of the league so why should we"

"Just don't field a team on away days! F them".

"See once we are allowed to fight back though... I want every single employee of HMFC and every single supporter to hold a bit of animosity to our league mates when we are back in the Premiership"

Bitter Hobos.

Oh, hang on, that's us. :greengrin

PLEASING :thumbsup:
13-01-2014, 05:05 PM
WeeWendy

Wilson

I wasn't aware that Wilson was brought in on a like-for-like - I thought it was a loophole in relation to his registration not having been transferred back down south.
13-01-2014, 05:05 PM
MyJo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

http://sport.stv.tv/football/260219-...xisting-rules/

Make up your mind spfl??

Winter 2014

Stating that the rules would not be changed, he added that Hearts could apply to register a new player under the "one in, one out" principle.

It is understood that the Edinburgh team have indicated they wish to bring in at least one player.

Doncaster said: "Last summer Hearts applied for Danny Wilson to be brought in and they made it clear which player he was replacing.

"The board looked at it and sanctioned Danny Wilson’s registration at that point.

"If Hearts wish to register an individual player then the process is very clear and there’s no question of changing the rules.

"The rules are clear, it has been the case since last summer and these were the rules we used last summer.

Summer 2013

An SPFL statement read: "The SPFL player registration of Heart of Midlothian FC player Danny Wilson would, had he not agreed a contract extension, have terminated on 30 June.
"The SPFL has now received documents extending the contract of the player.
"As a result, the player's existing SPFL registration is automatically extended and is not affected by the embargo on new SPFL player registrations currently in place on Heart of Midlothian FC as a result of Heart of Midlothian plc (in administration) being in administration."

So was he signed on the one out one in rule of was he signed because his registration was still with hearts when he agreed a contract.

Doncaster is a mug
13-01-2014, 05:05 PM
The_Todd

Hearts already embarrass Scottish football, since when did they need an excuse?
13-01-2014, 05:06 PM
bawheid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Hackett

The vitriol being spat out on keekboak at the news is a fair measure of the total delusion coursing through their veins. Most of these welts actually BELIEVED they'd get a reprieve

:lolyam:

It confirms that the medicine they've taken to date still hasn't worked.
13-01-2014, 05:07 PM
blindsummit

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Originally Posted by bawheid

It confirms that the medicine they've taken to date still hasn't worked.

Indeed! We may be reaching the point where the life support machine has to be switched off, as the patient appears to be brain dead :greengrin
13-01-2014, 05:19 PM
SanFranHibs

2 Players wlling to play for nothing?

We all think we know one of them, but what a dangerous precedent this is.

I sincerely hope this is just delusion on their part but they seem quite convinced they can find players that not only will play for nothingt for the remainder of this season but also for the entire 2014/15 season in the first division.

I would like to know which players can afford to go unpaid for even half a season. Even if it were to happen you know there is some dodgy money being promised them.

Maybe it is Foulkes and Salmond! Locke said he need a couple of experience heavyweights !

:flag:
13-01-2014, 05:22 PM
ShadesLongThrow

There's already a thread over the road about who they want to kick out so they can get some has-beens back. Must be hugely motivating for the younger players.
13-01-2014, 05:24 PM
CallumLaidlaw

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Originally Posted by DaveF

King out, Gonzo in? ****** cheek and the SPFL board should hit them with a fine (never to be paid) for wasting time.

The player coming in would surely need to be under 21 if it's before 1st Feb?
13-01-2014, 05:24 PM
Spike Mandela

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanFranHibs

We all think we know one of them, but what a dangerous precedent this is.

I sincerely hope this is just delusion on their part but they seem quite convinced they can find players that not only will play for nothingt for the remainder of this season but also for the entire 2014/15 season in the first division.

I would like to know which players can afford to go unpaid for even half a season. Even if it were to happen you know there is some dodgy money being promised them.

Maybe it is Foulkes and Salmond! Locke said he need a couple of experience heavyweights !

:flag:

KT did it for us.
13-01-2014, 05:25 PM
SaulGoodman

Quote:

Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw

The player coming in would surely need to be under 21 if it's before 1st Feb?

:agree:

It's fine though, Satchel's signing a pre-contract with them so they can tear apart the first division next season
13-01-2014, 05:25 PM
HFC 0-7

If they are allowed the 1 in, 1 out scenario what must be made sure of is that they are not strengthening as a result of it. As it stands it could be the young guy King on the way out who is not experienced and only played about 3 games being replaced by a player with SPL experience probably playing every game.

If its allowed to happen I would imagine a like for like basis in the eyes of the SPFL / SFA is someone on the same money.

The rules are there as a punishment, they should be able to make gains in this situation.
13-01-2014, 05:34 PM
SunshineOnLeith

What does it say about Hearts fans that they'd see a promising 20 year old home grown player getting injured as a good thing, should it enhance their chances of signing a 35 year old mercenary?
13-01-2014, 05:34 PM
Jack Hackett

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyJo

Make up your mind spfl??

Winter 2014

Stating that the rules would not be changed, he added that Hearts could apply to register a new player under the "one in, one out" principle.

It is understood that the Edinburgh team have indicated they wish to bring in at least one player.

Doncaster said: "Last summer Hearts applied for Danny Wilson to be brought in and they made it clear which player he was replacing.

"The board looked at it and sanctioned Danny Wilson’s registration at that point.

"If Hearts wish to register an individual player then the process is very clear and there’s no question of changing the rules.

"The rules are clear, it has been the case since last summer and these were the rules we used last summer.

Summer 2013

An SPFL statement read: "The SPFL player registration of Heart of Midlothian FC player Danny Wilson would, had he not agreed a contract extension, have terminated on 30 June.
"The SPFL has now received documents extending the contract of the player.
"As a result, the player's existing SPFL registration is automatically extended and is not affected by the embargo on new SPFL player registrations currently in place on Heart of Midlothian FC as a result of Heart of Midlothian plc (in administration) being in administration."

So was he signed on the one out one in rule of was he signed because his registration was still with hearts when he agreed a contract.

Doncaster is a mug

He probably thinks we are as well, considering he kept his job after the Sevco fiasco AND got a huge pay rise to boot
13-01-2014, 05:57 PM
SanFranHibs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

KT did it for us.

Good point !!!

Although he thought we were staying up....lol And he's on his way out now. Bet he won't do that again.
13-01-2014, 06:15 PM
DaveF

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

What does it say about Hearts fans that they'd see a promising 20 year old home grown player getting injured as a good thing, should it enhance their chances of signing a 35 year old mercenary?

I'd say it tells us that that to a man, the inhabitants of sickbag are banjo playing ****wits.

Hardly ground breaking news :greengrin
13-01-2014, 06:15 PM
Saorsa

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

@Euanmc1: Hearts transfer embargo not discussed by SPFL Board! Embargo stands.

Never even discussed it http://i43.tinypic.com/2wdtses.gif

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13-01-2014, 06:22 PM
Jack

If 15 years olds aren't allowed to play in the Premiership then they won't be registered.

The yams can't register players.

Anyone else see the problem here for them fielding a team of 15 year olds to embarrass the league?

Embarrassing!
13-01-2014, 06:23 PM
Skol

Was the 1 in 1 out for Wilson not his original loan signing last winter.....which ironically they didnt ever pay Liverpool for and it stands as one of their debts
13-01-2014, 06:27 PM
Keith_M

A bit off topic but....

Coming soon to a Stadium near you.

In Hearts case, very near :wink:
13-01-2014, 06:30 PM
Kaiser1962

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyJo

They are a long looooong way beyond embarrassing the league already,

They make The Rangers look dignified.
13-01-2014, 06:35 PM
GreenLake

Quote:

Originally Posted by keekaboo

A bit off topic but....

Coming soon to a Stadium near you.

In Hearts case, very near :wink:

Staincastle would come down with a few swings of a wrecking ball. The main stand would fold up like a cheap suit with a couple of dozers.
13-01-2014, 06:42 PM
Jack Hackett

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenLake

Staincastle would come down with a few swings of a wrecking ball. The main stand would fold up like a cheap suit with a couple of dozers.

Beat me to it :greengrin

I'd just add that it won't be with a bang, but a whimper.

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