Share Transfers Agreed/Cooling off period

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Originally Posted by truehibernian

In my opinion what we are seeing at Hearts are frantic behind the scenes planning - I'm utterly convinced that when BDO took the job on they had it in their heads that the 15 points would be overhauled and that they would have a fighting chance of staying in the SPFL - and their business model was all geared to being in the same league next season. Now that it is looking highly likely they will be relegated in last place, I think they are in a panic big time. If you sit back, breath, take it all in and listen to the reason they are now giving - health and safety of young players - you simply have to laugh, and I do mean laugh out loud. The Championship next season will include The Rangers. It may include Dunfermline (now out of admin). It has clubs like Alloa, Hamilton/Dundee, Queen of the South and perhaps will contain a current SPFL side if they fail to win their play off - that is a very very hard league to come out of first time of asking. I honestly dont think BDO, or indeed FoH, planned for this worst case scenario - but maybe that's just me.

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I think you may of hit on something there TH. And I concur that they thought they could overhaul the points deficit and have no problems staying I. The SPFL. I say this because they think that they are a 'Big Team' and have the 'Best Youngsters' in the country.

How wrong they have been.

If they sell a few and leave the squad threadbare then that's surely up to them.

If this embargo is lifted (and I suspect it won't) then there would be carnage and a free for all for teams to do as they please and bend the rules to suit their own scenario.

As for the championship - if they think they will win it or even finish 2nd at a canter then they are in for a shock. Some very well organised teams in that league.

I sit smiling as I type this knowing and expecting yet another 'whinge/moan' from the yam management team after yet another defeat this weekend.

I'd lift the ban if they agree to take Rowan Vine. Maybe in a swap for Walker.
Otherwise, no deal.

Just heard that big nose Satchel might be signing for Alloa :lolyam:

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...king-1-3263518

£200k for a youth player - never seen him play so dont know if he is any good or worth it.

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Originally Posted by Benny Brazil

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...king-1-3263518

£200k for a youth player - never seen him play so dont know if he is any good or worth it.

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If they can let a player go, they're obviously no' needing to have the transfer embargo lifted! :greengrin

Even if the Swans consider letting him stay on loan, I doubt they would want one of their young players exposed to the H&S hazards at Yams FC! :greengrin

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Originally Posted by GloryGlory

If they can let a player go, they're obviously no' needing to have the transfer embargo lifted! :greengrin

Even if the Swans consider letting him stay on loan, I doubt they would want one of their young players exposed to the H&S hazards at Yams FC! :greengrin

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Regarding hearts getting him back on loan, Would that not count as a signing?

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Originally Posted by Sconaldo

Regarding hearts getting him back on loan, Would that not count as a signing?

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Don't think so as they already hold his registration.

It seems a silly deal from Swansea, either that the news article is bollocks as per. Why sign a player for 200k and loan him back when you can sign him on a pre contract and get him in the summer for a 150k development fee?

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Originally Posted by matty_f

Don't think so as they already hold his registration.

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But if they sell him, would the registration not move to the swans? Then if they wanted him on loan that would mean reregistering as a yam, and this would be blocked? But tbh I don't have a clue :greengrin

As I mentioned last night - the yams scenario usually has some attempted good news then bad news - that's what previous history has shown to keep fans morale on side.

This news about King I think is actually neither - 200k is good money for someone who ha played 3/4 games this season!! Swansea have had scouts watch him previously and must see something which longer term will benefit them. I would imagine if we leaves he will go on loan to get game time in the future. I don't think he can leave and register for Swansea then go back to the yams as his registration will be with the English FA.

The yams losing another player and not being able to replace him isn't ideal for them. What confuses me though is if he's worth 200k now what are players like Walker or out Jordan Forster / Paul Hanlon worth.

I do agree though BDO are panicking after trying to be calm
and no coincidence March is approaching and with crowds and income dropping - they need to raise money somehow.

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Originally Posted by vince1973

But if they sell him, would the registration not move to the swans? Then if they wanted him on loan that would mean reregistering as a yam, and this would be blocked? But tbh I don't have a clue :greengrin

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That's what I thought but maybe that's how they were able to sign Wilson, as they still had his registration?

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Originally Posted by Kato

#chestswellers

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the chestswelling sparryheids

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Originally Posted by Sconaldo

That's what I thought but maybe that's how they were able to sign Wilson, as they still had his registration?

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The Wilson one was a typical yam con. Any normal loan would end with the players registration being returned to the parent club. As Wilson's contract with Liverpool ended a couple of weeks after the loan period they told him he was being released and hertz "forgot" to return his registration. Cue SFA turning a blind eye.

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Originally Posted by Sconaldo

That's what I thought but maybe that's how they were able to sign Wilson, as they still had his registration?

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I think maybe the fact that he hadn't registered anywhere else was their loophole?

BJ has probably just noticed that after tomorrow theyve nae home game until 22/2, cue a wee bit of panic!

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Originally Posted by BarneyK

I think maybe the fact that he hadn't registered anywhere else was their loophole?

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As I have said before, he was talking to Dundee Utd and had agreed a deal with them until they were gazumped by Hear7s at the last minute. Dundee Utd were furious and I doubt they will be doing any favours when it comes to Hearts requests. You will note that they were one of the first clubs not to offer FoH money for visiting fans.

If King us worth 200k I find it hard to believe he can't get a game for a team stuck 19 points adrift at the bottom of the league!!!!!

Who ?! And how much ?!

Will they claim to have a "Special Relationship" with Swansea now, like Liverpool...

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Originally Posted by greenlex

If King us worth 200k I find it hard to believe he can't get a game for a team stuck 19 points adrift at the bottom of the league!!!!!

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I suspect dirty dealings.

i believe there will be more to the deal than what is being made out.

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Originally Posted by Hibercelona

I suspect dirty dealings.

i believe there will be more to the deal than what is being made out.

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He has to finish all his veggies and do his homework every night for the duration of his contract ?! Then they get the £200k :shrug:

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Originally Posted by CB_NO3

It seems a silly deal from Swansea, either that the news article is bollocks as per. Why sign a player for 200k and loan him back when you can sign him on a pre contract and get him in the summer for a 150k development fee?

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Beginning to think "£200K" could be figure only if conditions are met - e.g. after 10 first team games, etc. Which may or may not happen.

£200k in this day and age to an EPL team is basically nothing. Shame that's not the case for them.

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Originally Posted by GloryGlory

Beginning to think "£200K" could be figure only if conditions are met - e.g. after 10 first team games, etc. Which may or may not happen.

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He's not worth £200k. The lad is a good player (tin hat on) and a prospect but lets be honest, £200k to Swansea is nowt. They wont even see it as a risk.

Is it allisbarry that have that figure? What's his track record like for getting figures right when reporting on the yams?
Didn't a seven figure sum he reported turn out to be 90k or something like that?

Poster on -19pointsback

"If Hamill and Robinson were getting picked at Centre mid before me then I would want a move as well. " - to be fair he has a point :greengrin

As stated - 200k is nothing to an EPL team - he could rise in value over the next few years or he may not.

How can sky sources say he would remain at the PBS till the end of the season though ? As the registration would transferred - unless it's a pre-contract and it's an up front development fee they would get which would go straight to BDO and not possible future owners come the end of the season - basically losing FOH a possible 200k?

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Originally Posted by Hibercelona

I suspect dirty dealings.

i believe there will be more to the deal than what is being made out.

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It suggests that even if he moved under freedom of contract Hearts would be entitled to more than £150K in terms of development fee.

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Originally Posted by greenlex

If King us worth 200k I find it hard to believe he can't get a game for a team stuck 19 points adrift at the bottom of the league!!!!!

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£150.000+ is development fee, even I wouldn't grudge them that :wink:

I have just been informed by a Jambo in my work Hearts had 5 players lined up to sign for them had their transfer embargo been relaxed...this is brilliant the names were Skacel, Goodwillie, Gomes from Dundee Utd, Boyd and some young guy from Liverpool :rolleyes::faf::crazy:

They always say in the best murder/mystery tales, Follow the Money!! Everything with Yams has followed that truism for the last 20 + years, from Mercer trying to asset strip ER & PBS, through Robinson's deal/no deal with Cala & Vlad's protracted shenanigans. The current embargo appeal nonsense is no different. I believe that Yams budget is blootered. We all know their attendance figures are fiction, there's probably no more than about 1 to 2,000 walk ups each home game dependent on away support. Its not coincidence that the only game where they have to show a correct attendance, cup vs Celtc, they get just over a measly 10k through the gate, only 6,000 Yams turn up! I would think BDO would have expected at least 15k for that game, that's a shortfall in region of £150k. We've all seen & Bajillions has told us about problems in selling hospitality & they have no gate income now after tomorrow for 4-6 weeks. They desperately need to sell players to help them limp through the season but can't do so ( without bringing some old duffers in ) while complaining they have no players! Catch 22 or in this case -15 I believe! Pleasing doesn't begin to cover it!!

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Originally Posted by CB_NO3

It seems a silly deal from Swansea, either that the news article is bollocks as per. Why sign a player for 200k and loan him back when you can sign him on a pre contract and get him in the summer for a 150k development fee?

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The EEN is nothing but a Hearts comic - probably just wishful thinking from Banderson.