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Originally Posted by hibsbollah
on sky sports they did a wee tribute to him and were talking to the other guys on the podcast (they’re usually on anyway), and I remember some weeks ago Neil Reynolds asking them how Wesseling was doing through his treatment.
leaves a young son behind as well, terribly sad news
I had NFL game pass this year so didn’t watch any of sky’s coverage, but yeah it’s just awful news. I felt like I knew the guy and seems like lots of others felt the same way :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by McD
I'm sure I read somewhere that Brady over the course of his career is more likely to go to a conference championship game than the rest of the league's QBs are to complete a Pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Makes me wonder that if the Patriots had really gone all-in, boom or bust in the 2019 season, 2020 be damned, if Brady might have won his 7th last year.
Either way, I'm delighted for him, his achievements will in all likelihood never be surpassed, the greatest to ever play the game, and I've been fortunate enough to watch him play in the flesh back in 2012 in London.
I could see Tampa get back to the Super Bowl next year, this year's NFC contenders are all either right up against the cap or over it bar the Bucs.
I watched the sky coverage and I knew right away that Wess had passed. Neil is such a good presenter, but he was almost in tears at the news. Wess got married and had a kid during his fight against cancer. As you say the around the nfl podcast is brilliant and it’s a sad day that Wess lost his fight. RIP legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
By the way how good was the sky coverage of the super bowl, Dallas Clark was so funny.
As good as Brady was, mvp was the Wrong call.
I don't know if we learned that Mahomes is human, he had literally no protection all night and even them if his receivers had caught some of the many passes they dropped he would have completed some of the most spectacular passes I've ever seen. The one where he was diving forward and was almost horizontal was incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I don't know why the chiefs persisted with the same protection scheme all night, Mahomes had a free guy rushing at him on virtually every play.
Yeah terrible news. I feared the worst when he announced that his cancer had returned and as you say you could hear him weakening on recent appearances. Devastating for his wife and son and whole family, as well as the podcast guys. It must have been so hard for them over the last few weeks knowing what was going on.Quote:
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I agree that he did all he could, it was his supporting cast who let him down. Big drops by Hill, who is frankly a bit of a dick despite his talent, and Kelve. And credit needs to go to Pierre Paul Vea and the others. I’m not sure even the chiefs first choice linemen could have lived with that degree of pressure. That’s all I mean in the context of him being ‘human’. Brady, on the other hand...how he keeps winning...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio sledge
I'd agree with that :agree: Could have been worse though. Gronk could have got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
I dont know if its been mentioned on here before but a fun mobile game called Retro Bowl. I'm addicted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/56078300
Vincent Jackson found dead in a hotel in Florida - he was in my fantasy team at one point not too long ago!
Only 38 - what a shame.
Russell Wilson has not demanded a trade, according to his agent, but reportedly has four destination teams in mind :dunno: (Cowboys Bears Saints Raiders). Good sources in Seattle suggest he’s fed up and wants out.
Sounds like it’s either Pete Carroll or Russell Wilson for the chop in Seattle.
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It's gets rid of Pete before Russell imo.
That’s what most Hawks fans think too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
But Russell is also full of ****. PFF have the Seahawks 15th in Offensive line play, the best they’ve ever been since Russell’s been there! He’s been sacked the most this season because he holds onto the ball too long and doesn’t take what the defense gives him.
On the basis that the relationship is broken, I’d trade him to the Jets, get the 2 first round picks back we gave up for Jamaal Adams, and draft that Ohio QB or whoever else they want at #2.
Anyone but the Jets...Quote:
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JJ Watt to Arizona
And the Drew Brees Era has ended.
We've re-signed Cam. Why...?
Baffled me that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Tell you what I didn't half get get excited when I saw a tweet from a respected NFL journo starting "BREAKING: Texans and Pats have agree a trade for..."
Turned out we were trading them an OT.
And just signed Jonnu Smith at TE. Like that move!
Scored a good few TD’s last season despite not being targeted too much by Tannehill,Good pick up for NEQuote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
That’s a good acquisition. Seems a lot of $ but I suppose you’ve got the cap room so why not.Quote:
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FitzMagic signs for WFT
Titans get edge rusher Bud Dupree, that’s someone I was hoping Seattle would go for. Again, $85 seems like big money being spent for someone coming off a ACL. I thought free agency was going to be stingier post COVID?
Hunter Henry is now a Patriot! Loving this free agency
Andy Dalton. Andy. Dalton.
underwhelmed :rolleyes:
When did you last have a proper QB? :faf:Quote:
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I know, I know, doesn’t make it any easier :greengrin
Kyle Van Noy back in NE. I've lost count of players signing!
Reports today that Schneider and Bears owner met ‘secretly’, bears offered 3 1st rounders, 2 second rounders and 2 unnamed players, Schneider slept on it, and said no. :dunno: The Bears then pick up Dalton as sloppy seconds.Quote:
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Meanwhile all the best offensive linemen in free agency have been nabbed by the Chargers the Cardinals and the 49ers, which is like telling Wilson he’s not getting what he wants and then rubbing his nose in it afterwards .
Khalil Mack being one of the unnamed players apparentlyQuote:
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Originally Posted by Willis1875
would've been gutted to see him traded tbh... one of the few bears I’d be unhappy to see go
Will Fuller to Miami. I like that move, a genuine deep threat that we have been badly lacking.
A few big draft moves being reported.
49ers are trading up to 3 overall giving the Dolphins their number 12 pick plus 1st round picks in 2022 and 2023.
Dolphins are then trading back up to 6 with the Eagles, getting their 156 pick as well in exchange for 12, 123 and their own (rather than SFs) 2022 1st round pick.
My head hurts but on the face of it Miami are getting a pretty good deal there.
So it looks like overall Miami gets a first round pick plus one for moving from #3 to #6? Seems like a good deal. The really interesting thing is what are the 49ers up to. What is worth losing two first rounders for to get to #3? Maybe they want one of the qbs in the draft, are they trading Garropolo and what can they except to get for him?
Sam Darnold traded to the Panthers. Guess that means the Jets are 100% taking Wilson in the draft.
At least the top three picks will all be QBs.Quote:
Originally Posted by David_D
The deshawn Watson revelations look really bad for him. He’s clearly a nasty piece of work.
Yeah he's had some interesting few months! From "Free Drama in" to "send him to jail".Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Totally different thing to what he’s been accused of, but wonder if the team will regret not trading him
I've never had a massage myself, but I'd imagine most people find a massage therapist who they feel comfortable with and stick with them, why on earth does someone need to see so many different massage therapists in the space of just over a year?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Sounds like a total creep at the very least.
It’s surely more than just because he wanted to get his end away, it’s definitely that power dynamic that certain people get when they’re put on a superstar pedestal and are used to getting whatever they want their whole lives. Not that different to Jimmy Saville, arguably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio sledge
Moving on...I’ve been discovering PFF, what a great resource. (you know you’re bored when you start looking at offensive linemen grades). Does anyone remember last years draft the Giants took an offensive lineman in the first round, Anthony Thomas to widespread amazement, there were at least 4 guys including Tristan Wirfs and Bekton now at the Jets ranked way higher...but the Giants took him at #4 overall anyway, turns out PFF had him dead last in his position in his rookie year! Has to be one of the busts of all time, imagine using your top draft pick on a player and ending up with the actual worst player in the league in that position...Him vs Chase Young should be worth a watch for laughs again this season.
A podcast I was listening to was having a bit of fun by trying to come up with a European super league style NFL breakaway :greengrin
The unanimous big hitters they came up with for a 8 team breakaway were Patriots, Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, Chiefs, Ravens, Seahawks or 49ers, Saints, Giants also got a vote for the NY media market.
Granted it’s a stupid exercise but....Thoughts?
I’d probably swap the Ravens for the Bears other than that it’s pretty spot on IMO.
Day one of the draft, no one knows how well these players are going to adjust to the pros, but early takeaways are the Eagles and Bears made smart choices, moving up to get the heisman winner and the most accurate QB respectively, and the Giants got themselves a ton of picks for future years and probably came out of it well too.
Also seems to be a theme of pairing up QBs with favoured receivers they knew from college, Tua gets his favourite target from Alabama and same with Burrow and the rookie receiver from LSU both go early in the first round.
I think I find the three? day draft extravaganza perhaps the most bizarre event in world sport.
It is. And it also happens to be one of the most watched events as well (especially the 1st round)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancs Harp
It’s been a poor draft for stupid names, which is always what I look for first. Early favourites were both drafted by the Panthers, (clearly they like drafting just on the basis of names too) a running back called Chubby Hubbard and a TE from Notre Dame called Tommy Tremble. I’ll be watching their careers closely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
I'm in a few Dolphins Facebook groups and they make this place look calm and measured by comparison.
We had a good draft. We needed a weapon for Tua and after adding Will Fuller in FA, we took the best available receiver on the board at 6. We needed a pass rusher and if Jaelon Phillips stays fit we got a steal at 18. That was more pressing than a running back so passing on Harris made sense. We needed someone on the O line and we got one from Notre Dame who always produce in that position, we took a safety for depth. The tight end was the most surprising pick but with Gesicki and Smythe both potential free agents next year and the former likely to demand big money coming out of his rookie contract it makes sense. An OT and finally a RB in round 7, which based on recent years could well mean some success, rounds of a decent weekends work. Add to that we still have 2 1st round picks next year thanks to the trade with the 49ers and Eagles.
The moaning from some fans is unreal. People threatening to go and support other teams and predicting we are going 2-15, 7-10 and other doomsday scenarios. I get it we have under achieved or just been plain awful for years but everything is moving in the right direction. The AFC East will be competitive next season so it's hard to say with certainty we are a play off team but we were close last year and on paper look better now than we were then.
Seahawks.net and their Facebook page is very similar, absolute hysterics and drama queens in a cauldron of negativity. It makes me even more convinced that a cocktail of not being at games, explosion in social media use and mental health pressures due to lockdown is making ALL sports fans a bid madder than normal.Quote:
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Tommy Tremble is a New York Post headline waiting to happen...Quote:
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funnily enough, seen some Bears Facebook pages with a decent proportion of hysterics and whining. Just drafted what appears to be a franchise QB that few thought we’d have a chance at getting, and a cracker of an offensive linesman in an area of weakness, with several complementary players, and some folk still aren’t happy,
Tebow is back.
Sheer cronyism from Urban MyerQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Willing to bet Tebow is cut before the pre-season gets underway.
We doing fantasy teams this season?
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I’m hoping so NOLA,Are you still on the WhatsApp group?
There was interest for doing it again, we usually do a draft in July. Just use WhatsApp again?Quote:
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Some rumours kicking around in Vegas that Aaron Rodgers is set to announce his retirement.
Wouldn't surprise me.Quote:
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He’s behaved like such a prick the last offseason, definitely spoiled his legacy if that’s him walking away so close to the season.Quote:
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Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Think he’s on a mission to show the Packers that he’s the man in control, and because of the finances he has them over a barrel.
whether he stays or goes, he’s making his point to them
dont disagree with your assessment of his behaviour
The Mac Jones era begins...
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bold move by Belichick
Great game to open the season last night! Both teams looked very good offensively.
Gronkowski and Brady looks to be another potent partnership if the former can stay fit.
OK, it’s not too late for predictions.
AFC Champions: Buffalo, Cleveland, Tennessee, Kansas City
NFC Champions: Washington, Green Bay, Tampa, LA Rams
MVP Patrick Mahomes
Rookie of the year: Yon 49ers QB who’s name escapes me. Trey Lance!
First round pick 22/23: Houston
Super bowl Kansas City beat LA Rams.
AFC Champions: New England, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Kansas CityQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
NFC Champions: Dallas, Green Bay, Tampa Bay, San Francisco
MVP: Tom Brady
ROTY: Mac Jones
First Round Pick: NY Jets
Super Bowl: Tampa Bay beat Kansas City
Pretty much my thoughts except Dallas will win the NFC East, Justin Fields to win rookie of the year and the Rams to win the Super bowl.Quote:
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My mate in Chicago is getting very excited about Fields. They’ve literally never had a decent QB in living memory.Quote:
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Yeah he seems the real deal. Only a matter of time before he replaces Dalton.Quote:
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He was terrible yesterday, admittedly with no protection.Quote:
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Originally Posted by lord bunberry
its the protection thing that’s one of the 2 biggest issues, the O-line are a sieve. The other is the coach, who appears to be trying to force a style of play on the QB/offence that doesn’t utilise his strengths at all
They mentioned in the commentary that the coaches think he’s a bit slow to process things and that they were trying to play to his strengths, but he didn’t really get much of a chance to process anything at the weekend, he was either sacked or on his bike on almost every play. He’ll obviously have easier games, but it’s going to be a baptism of fire with that offence in front of him.Quote:
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i hope ruggs goes to jail for a long time Henry Ruggs was driving 156 mph before deadly crash: prosecutor (nypost.com)
an Uber would probably have cost $30 or sommit
horrific for that poor woman
Not even $30 dollars, the NFLPA have a free scheme offering rides to players any time day or night to prevent these things happening. They'll even run your car home for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Inexcusable to drink and drive in any circumstance let alone do 156mph in your car in a residential area.
See I was discussing this yesterday and saying "surely if you are a pro sports teams you get a car service on the books so all your players are safe".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio sledge
To find out the NFLPA has that in place and this asshole still got hammered and drove at 156mph and killing some young lady? Absolutely disgraceful. He's going to jail and he better be prepared to be there for a while.
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There’s a level of entitlement and ‘the rules don’t apply to me’ across some elite sportsmen, it’s not restricted to the NFL, there was Jack Grealish pranging cars during lockdown, Kyle Walker caught twice travelling beyond the allowed distance during lockdown, some of the tax stuff in Spain, sexual assault and worse across multiple sports, etc.
You wonder how much of it is driven by (nearly) a lifetime of being told you’re amazing, you’re wonderful, and people cutting corners for you and making allowances and excuses for you.
I should be clear, the vast majority of professional athletes appear to be decent, upstanding people
This won’t be a popular view but I feel sorry for Ruggs. I have no idea what he was thinking but that one night changes his whole life. God knows I did some stupid things when I was young?(granted I never drove at 156mph when drunk), and often it’s just luck when you escape without some sort of disaster. He’ll probably be 50 when he gets out of prison with his life in tatters and he’ll be chewed up with regrets and guilt.
I ordered a Rodgers Jersey at the weekend for my Christmas and it turns out the guy is a complete nut job, might return it for someone else lol.
The great MLK said: ‘You have a moral obligation to object to unjust rules and rules that make no sense,’” Rogers said, misquoting Martin Luther King Jr.Quote:
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He continued: “What about ‘My body, my choice?’ What about making the best decision for my circumstance? This idea that it’s the pandemic of the unvaccinated, it’s just a total lie.”
Very true. The egos on footballers I meet who have done zero in the game is unbelievableQuote:
Originally Posted by McD
I think his previous actions tell me in the grand scheme of things he's a decent/good person but thoroughly misguided here. It doesn't help when you speak to Joe Rogan for health advice. The choice to use MLK though is a bad one :hilariousQuote:
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Was down in London a few weeks ago and done the stadium tour at Spurs. Was set up for the NFL, which was interesting to see.
Caveat: I have no interest or knowledge of NFL, but thought the photos might be of interest to those that follow it.
Come on The Jets [emoji1184][emoji41]
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The Jets and Hibs.Quote:
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That's one way to avoid ever being called a gloryhunter....
Cracking pictures.
Great player obviously, but there’s something of the David Brent about Rodgers :greengrin That’s definitely something Brent would come out with. Russell Wilson not much better admittedly, with his current ‘Dangerruss’ chat.Quote:
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quite astonishing, too late now to wonder what on earth he was thinking
just about to put a few £ on Green bay @ Kansas and wondered why they were such a good price, ah well maybe not :greengrin thanks google
i'm convinced my £5 on packers back in october for the super bowl will happen :)
KC chiefs still big Fav's @ 9/2 with Green Bay @ 17/4
Tampa Bay @ 13/2
Patriots @ 11/1
It just feels like a total lottery, with key players on multiple teams getting covid all over the place. I wouldn’t be betting on anyone at this point.Quote:
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The covid situation is making a bit of a farce of the league.
I stayed up to watch the Miami v New Orleans game last night and the Saints roster was a joke. They had a guy in the offensive line who signed to the practice squad on boxing day and was elevated to the full roster yesterday to start. Not a single snap in practice. They had Blake Bortles as back up QB who signed on Christmas Eve. The rookie QB was sacked 9 times and hit a further 13 times, it was verging on abuse.
It puts us in a position where we can win out and be guaranteed a play off place so to that end I'm not complaining. There's little sporting merit in such a win though.
John Madden has died John Madden: NFL coach, broadcaster and video game icon dies at 85 - BBC News
Legendary American Football coach and commentator John Madden has died at the age of 85, the National Football League (NFL) has announced.
The league said he died unexpectedly and did not give a cause.
Madden led the then-Oakland Raiders to their first Super Bowl victory in 1977 and became a hugely popular television analyst after retiring from coaching.
He later became the face of Madden NFL Football, one of the most successful sports video games ever.
The Ravens were down to their EIGHTH choice cornerback against the Packers the other day (and still kept it close, amazingly). The NFL is always affected by injuries after a long season in any normal year, but the pandemic has just taken it to a whole new level. Its made a lopt of matchups a lottery.Quote:
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Him and Pat Summerall were two of the voices of my childhood. RIP.Quote:
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Very interesting game between the bengals and chiefs, took Kansas City out of the AFC top spot (Tennessee winning also contributed hahaha)
plus Antonio Brown doing Antonio Brown things
good luck to the guy :agree:
David Ojabo: NFL draft awaits for 21-year-old from Aberdeenshire - BBC Sport
As recently as 2017, David Ojabo had never played American football. After all, the sport wasn't especially big in Aberdeenshire.
Yet later this year, he is set to become an NFL star after declaring for the 2022 draft. In fact, by the end of April, the 21-year-old could be one of the most lavishly-paid Scottish athletes on the planet.
Almost impossible to predict where he will end up. So many teams in the middle of the draft need an edge rusher. Denver, the Giants, the Eagles (who have 3 picks in the first round)??Quote:
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i have to confess all that goes over my head for now :greengrin but, i've watched the superbowl without fail for 30+ years, only started watching the group games more regularly two years ago and starting this season i've watched games every weekend including the games that finish approx 4am on the monday morning, i'm starting to finally pick up on the rules and i even know what a drive and a hail mary pass is :greengrin i'm getting there, slowly
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NFL draft- Springtime Event where the best college players in the country get picked by the NFL pro teams. Worst NFL team from previous season gets first pick of the top young player in the first round, then in ascending order so the 32nd and last pick is owned by the previous years best team. Then you start another round, i think there’s now seven rounds in total(But picks get traded between teams, eg.if you want to trade for a player you can swap him for a pick). This lad who grew up in Aberdeenshire and went to college in Michigan is projected to go in the first round, which means he’s very very good.
Edge Rusher- the really athletic fast big defender who rushes at the QB from ‘the edge’ of the ‘line’ (the ‘line’ is the line of the biggest 5 players on the offensive and defensive units who line up and charge into each other when the ball is snapped back to the QB). He’s often crouching over the lineman when the other linemen are down in a 3 point stance (like a sprinter) or a 4 point stance.The edge rusher is one of the most important positions on the field because a good player here can disrupt the oppositions passing game.
Picks-players you get in the draft. Due to trading with other teams, the Eagles have 3 1st round picks this year, which is very unusual and should mean they have a good young team to work with in the next few seasons.
Mmmm ok ta :lips seal as for the eagles, jeezo they should get a lot more picks as they were absolutely dreadful in getting a hammering from Dallas Cowboys(just finished) 52-26 at home, cowboys 2nd highest score against them, they did get a consolation TD with under 2 mins remaining but lucky,very lucky, if there was over 1,500 remaining fans in a 69k stadium, and i think even they were probably just player family members :greengrinQuote:
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