Driving Pet Peeves

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Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee

Cyclists with no lights, reflective clothing or indeed anything that makes them visible at night. Encountered yet another one last night on my drive home just before midnight. Absolute idiots just asking to be in an accident.

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Cyclists on the pavement with helmets and high viz jackets.

Christ, it's us pedestrians who should be wearing the helmets!

Cyclist who insist on cycling on the road when there's a multi million pound cycle lane running along the length of the road they're on (West Coates to Roseburn)

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Originally Posted by J-C

Cyclist who insist on cycling on the road when there's a multi million pound cycle lane running along the length of the road they're on (West Coates to Roseburn)

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Saw a cracker today, a cyclist peddling along, with his helmet dangling from the handlebars

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Originally Posted by J-C

Cyclist who insist on cycling on the road when there's a multi million pound cycle lane running along the length of the road they're on (West Coates to Roseburn)

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I raised this one a while back, there are a couple of roads near me that are very difficult to pass cyclists so traffic builds up behind them, plus some of them are fast roads so carry more risk for everyone. All served with a cycle path and you still get cyclists on the road. I don't get it?!

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Originally Posted by J-C

Cyclist who insist on cycling on the road when there's a multi million pound cycle lane running along the length of the road they're on (West Coates to Roseburn)

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Originally Posted by matty_f

I raised this one a while back, there are a couple of roads near me that are very difficult to pass cyclists so traffic builds up behind them, plus some of them are fast roads so carry more risk for everyone. All served with a cycle path and you still get cyclists on the road. I don't get it?!

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I haven't been on the new lane, but some of the others are pretty poor in terms of space and safety. I can understand some cyclists feeling safer on the road.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

I raised this one a while back, there are a couple of roads near me that are very difficult to pass cyclists so traffic builds up behind them, plus some of them are fast roads so carry more risk for everyone. All served with a cycle path and you still get cyclists on the road. I don't get it?!

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Some cyclists are arrogant self entitled half wits is the answer.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

I raised this one a while back, there are a couple of roads near me that are very difficult to pass cyclists so traffic builds up behind them, plus some of them are fast roads so carry more risk for everyone. All served with a cycle path and you still get cyclists on the road. I don't get it?!

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It's almost always the case that the road offers a faster route for the cyclist than the cycle lane does. Sometimes much faster, sometimes only a little.

The Roseburn-Coates link is only very slightly slower and in good nick because it's new, but Leith Walk heading north is much slower and some cycle lanes are so full of potholes that they're borderline uncyclable (A7 from Sheriffhall to Danderhall).

True fact that some cyclists are selfish ******** though.

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

It's almost always the case that the road offers a faster route for the cyclist than the cycle lane does. Sometimes much faster, sometimes only a little.

The Roseburn-Coates link is only very slightly slower and in good nick because it's new, but Leith Walk heading north is much slower and some cycle lanes are so full of potholes that they're borderline uncyclable (A7 from Sheriffhall to Danderhall).

True fact that some cyclists are selfish ******** though.

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Add in that most cycle lanes will have at least half a dozen parked cars or vans blocking them at some point along the route.

When you complain about that you get a load of drivers calling you a grass, making excuses and moaning about you being on the road though.

True that some drivers are selfish *******s😂😂

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

It's almost always the case that the road offers a faster route for the cyclist than the cycle lane does. Sometimes much faster, sometimes only a little.

The Roseburn-Coates link is only very slightly slower and in good nick because it's new, but Leith Walk heading north is much slower and some cycle lanes are so full of potholes that they're borderline uncyclable (A7 from Sheriffhall to Danderhall).

True fact that some cyclists are selfish ******** though.

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Aren’t all facts true? 🙃

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Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee

Aren’t all facts true? ��

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Not since the invention of Alternative Facts, copyright KellyAnne Conway

Got a new Kia Sportage last week, the constant bleeping when going over the speed limits by 2mph, bleeps to tell you you are in wrong gear, bit of a nightmare that wasn’t mentioned when ordering car.

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

Got a new Kia Sportage last week, the constant bleeping when going over the speed limits by 2mph, bleeps to tell you you are in wrong gear, bit of a nightmare that wasn’t mentioned when ordering car.

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Surely you can turn the warnings off?

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

Got a new Kia Sportage last week, the constant bleeping when going over the speed limits by 2mph, bleeps to tell you you are in wrong gear, bit of a nightmare that wasn’t mentioned when ordering car.

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Aw surely that can get turned off?

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Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee

Surely you can turn the warnings off?

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Nope, can’t be turned off, just got to have loud music to drown the bleeping noise out, spoke with salesman yesterday and his advice was you just have to stick to speed limits, :rolleyes: :greengrin and Google isn’t much help either, most folk wanting to know how to turn the bleeping noises off.

Kia say within 5 years they will have cars fitted with a breathalyser in the car, over the limit and it won’t start, doing that every time would be a nightmare.

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

Nope, can’t be turned off, just got to have loud music to drown the bleeping noise out, spoke with salesman yesterday and his advice was you just have to stick to speed limits, :rolleyes: :greengrin and Google isn’t much help either, most folk wanting to know how to turn the bleeping noises off.

Kia say within 5 years they will have cars fitted with a breathalyser in the car, over the limit and it won’t start, doing that every time would be a nightmare.

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Tried this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPw6d_cK2n4

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Originally Posted by sleeping giant

Tried this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPw6d_cK2n4

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That says “permanently” it isn’t, every time you switch the car off you have to go through all that again every time, loud music is the only answer. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

Nope, can’t be turned off, just got to have loud music to drown the bleeping noise out, spoke with salesman yesterday and his advice was you just have to stick to speed limits, :rolleyes: :greengrin and Google isn’t much help either, most folk wanting to know how to turn the bleeping noises off.

Kia say within 5 years they will have cars fitted with a breathalyser in the car, over the limit and it won’t start, doing that every time would be a nightmare.

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That would be going straight back to the dealer. Have been looking at a new Kia Ceed but **** that if that’s gonna happen .

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

That says “permanently” it isn’t, every time you switch the car off you have to go through all that again every time, loud music is the only answer. :greengrin

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You've got me curious because I've a kia niro, less than a year old and that's something I've not noticed. You would think that all new kias would have the same technology. The lane assistance was annoying to begin with but there is a button on the steering wheel to switch it off.

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Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee

That would be going straight back to the dealer. Have been looking at a new Kia Ceed but **** that if that’s gonna happen .

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Any car after July 2024 MUST be sold with this tech. Thank the EU regulations for this.

It also cannot be turned off permanently and can only be turned off each and every time you start the car. Some manufacturers might be helpful and give a shortcut button on their infotainment system to do this, others like Kia obviously don’t!

All cars will also have a black box that will record how often the system is turned off. Again no choice for the owner on that being recorded.

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

That says “permanently” it isn’t, every time you switch the car off you have to go through all that again every time, loud music is the only answer. :greengrin

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Is it literally as soon as you go over 70 on the motorway it kicks in?

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Originally Posted by RyeSloan

Any car after July 2024 MUST be sold with this tech. Thank the EU regulations for this.

It also cannot be turned off permanently and can only be turned off each and every time you start the car. Some manufacturers might be helpful and give a shortcut button on their infotainment system to do this, others like Kia obviously don’t!

All cars will also have a black box that will record how often the system is turned off. Again no choice for the owner on that being recorded.

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I haven't fact checked this but I was told the other day that beyond a certain date, new cars will have speed limiters on them as well to help reduce speeding.

I immediately thought of how much more dull cinema car chases will become as the baddies get to the motorway in front of the polis and they both scoot along at a steady 70mph until one of them runs out of petrol.

The Steady Pace and the Furious.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

You've got me curious because I've a kia niro, less than a year old and that's something I've not noticed. You would think that all new kias would have the same technology. The lane assistance was annoying to begin with but there is a button on the steering wheel to switch it off.

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Which button? I have a year old Niro and it doesn’t seem to have a button to turn it off other than going through the menu each time to turn it off. Same on my Rio. My first Kia (a Rio) that had lane assist had a button to turn this off then they got rid of it in future models.

As someone who has driven Kia cars for around 11 years, it is very annoying that they change the tech around. Even the placement of standard controls.

The audio controls and menu controls on the steering wheel are on opposite sides of the steering wheel on the Niro vs the Rio - both bought at the same time!

Added fuss when you are regularly driving two different cars, particularly when it is bad enough when one is automatic and one is manual anyway.

Interesting that some of these “safety” features are becoming mandatory. Some of them I think are less safe than just leaving it to the driver. Lane assist is one of those. The pulling effect on the car is awful. The collision detection thing is even worse. Forces an emergency stop when there is absolutely zero danger of a collision.

Not a safety feature but the warning that the driver in front has pulled away but you haven’t is tiresome when driving on congested streets. Aye - he’s pulled away because the light was in the middle of changing in heavy traffic and this now red.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

I haven't fact checked this but I was told the other day that beyond a certain date, new cars will have speed limiters on them as well to help reduce speeding.

I immediately thought of how much more dull cinema car chases will become as the baddies get to the motorway in front of the polis and they both scoot along at a steady 70mph until one of them runs out of petrol.

The Steady Pace and the Furious.

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Was that not a plot point in one of the new Star Wars films as a ham-fisted way to give urgency to what other characters were doing? The ships were going the same speed so the Imperials couldn't catch up to them, but eventually they'd run out of fuel. It was thrilling stuff.

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Originally Posted by overdrive

Which button? I have a year old Niro and it doesn’t seem to have a button to turn it off other than going through the menu each time to turn it off. Same on my Rio. My first Kia (a Rio) that had lane assist had a button to turn this off then they got rid of it in future models.

As someone who has driven Kia cars for around 11 years, it is very annoying that they change the tech around. Even the placement of standard controls.

The audio controls and menu controls on the steering wheel are on opposite sides of the steering wheel on the Niro vs the Rio - both bought at the same time!

Added fuss when you are regularly driving two different cars, particularly when it is bad enough when one is automatic and one is manual anyway.

Interesting that some of these “safety” features are becoming mandatory. Some of them I think are less safe than just leaving it to the driver. Lane assist is one of those. The pulling effect on the car is awful. The collision detection thing is even worse. Forces an emergency stop when there is absolutely zero danger of a collision.

Not a safety feature but the warning that the driver in front has pulled away but you haven’t is tiresome when driving on congested streets. Aye - he’s pulled away because the light was in the middle of changing in heavy traffic and this now red.

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My car is electric so might be different.

Left side of the wheel, a button with converging lines and a steering wheel between them.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

You've got me curious because I've a kia niro, less than a year old and that's something I've not noticed. You would think that all new kias would have the same technology. The lane assistance was annoying to begin with but there is a button on the steering wheel to switch it off.

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My last car was Kia Sportage 21 year, it had the lane assistance but soon found out how to switch that off, the new model is just the same with more safety features, I done the settings stuff to switch it all off, it worked, but as soon as the engine is disabled it resets back to bleeping again :rolleyes:.

Back to loud music to drown it out.

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Originally Posted by Jones28

Is it literally as soon as you go over 70 on the motorway it kicks in?

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If you are in 20 mph zone and go 22mph it will bleep, same for 30 40 60 & 70, a nightmare in Edinburgh as you are continuously hitting different speed limits every few minutes, a soothing bleep to tell you what gear you should be in :rolleyes: crash collision when you get to close to a car even though there is no chance of a crash and the grinds to a halt, it even bleeps to tell you the car in front of you has moved on.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

I haven't fact checked this but I was told the other day that beyond a certain date, new cars will have speed limiters on them as well to help reduce speeding.

I immediately thought of how much more dull cinema car chases will become as the baddies get to the motorway in front of the polis and they both scoot along at a steady 70mph until one of them runs out of petrol.

The Steady Pace and the Furious.

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Funny you say that but have noticed that if you are doing 28 in a 20 zone and take your foot of the accelerator it slows down very quickly to 20mph.

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Originally Posted by overdrive

Which button? I have a year old Niro and it doesn’t seem to have a button to turn it off other than going through the menu each time to turn it off. Same on my Rio. My first Kia (a Rio) that had lane assist had a button to turn this off then they got rid of it in future models.

As someone who has driven Kia cars for around 11 years, it is very annoying that they change the tech around. Even the placement of standard controls.

The audio controls and menu controls on the steering wheel are on opposite sides of the steering wheel on the Niro vs the Rio - both bought at the same time!

Added fuss when you are regularly driving two different cars, particularly when it is bad enough when one is automatic and one is manual anyway.

Interesting that some of these “safety” features are becoming mandatory. Some of them I think are less safe than just leaving it to the driver. Lane assist is one of those. The pulling effect on the car is awful. The collision detection thing is even worse. Forces an emergency stop when there is absolutely zero danger of a collision.

Not a safety feature but the warning that the driver in front has pulled away but you haven’t is tiresome when driving on congested streets. Aye - he’s pulled away because the light was in the middle of changing in heavy traffic and this now red.

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And bizarrely enough my new Kia doesn’t detect speed cameras, but seems to detect everything else, there should be a button somewhere to turn off your stay in lane nonsense, either down at right side of ignition or on the steering wheel.

I will say that my new Kia is a lot better than the last model though, last one was sluggish where new model can shift, I’m doing 20mph in 2nd gear easily and then the bleeping kicks in.

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

If you are in 20 mph zone and go 22mph it will bleep, same for 30 40 60 & 70, a nightmare in Edinburgh as you are continuously hitting different speed limits every few minutes, a soothing bleep to tell you what gear you should be in :rolleyes: crash collision when you get to close to a car even though there is no chance of a crash and the grinds to a halt, it even bleeps to tell you the car in front of you has moved on.

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Are you sure R2D2 isn't riding shotgun?

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Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish

Was that not a plot point in one of the new Star Wars films as a ham-fisted way to give urgency to what other characters were doing? The ships were going the same speed so the Imperials couldn't catch up to them, but eventually they'd run out of fuel. It was thrilling stuff.

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😂😂😂 After dead Leia had flown in space. What a film!!