That would be my preferred option.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenhibby
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That would be my preferred option.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenhibby
Given that Fenlon pretty much admitted Maybury was his second choice it's hard to get excited.
I think he will keep Clancy at right back for the season, only moving him as a last resort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Superb news. This should help our attacking options. wingers!!!
How would losing on Sunday leave us in a relegation battle?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcfly
He didn't. He said he was a very good player who it would be great to have but given he had priorities elsewhere he wasn't sure he would have the budget for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Alan Maybury? How can anyone get excited by this signing? A club with aspirations of top 6 finishes should not be buying an SPL has-been. He's past it. In fact, none of the signings we've made so far are worthy of a top 6 team. I've been biting my tongue through this whole transfer period, as I really, REALLY hoped that Pat would be the man to change our fortunes, but the recruits so far have been pretty awful, and hardly inspiring.
Ben Williams - Seems pretty strong so far. It's about time we had a keeper that wasn't complete bomb scare.
Leigh Griffiths - Semi-talented footballer who's plagued with the kind of attitude problems that have been rife at this club in the past few years.
James McPake - Decent, but nothing better than that. The fact that people were treating his signing like it was the second coming speaks volumes about the expectations our support holds these days. He was the best of an extremely bad bunch last season.
Paul Cairney - Remains to be seen, but signing players that are 'good' by first division standards doesn't exactly excite.
Tim Clancy - Did well in a good Motherwell team last season. Probably the best signing of the transfer period thus far.
Gary Deegan - Coventry fans seems to be more than happy that he's been taken off their wage bill, but it's too early for us to make a judgement.
One thing that all the signings have in common though, is that they are boring. So, so, so boring. No real marquee signings to bring some life into the fans and the club. For me, it's about time we started letting the youth players play a significant part in the make-up of our squad again. The club's 'fortunes' seem to have dwindled ever since we started buying players, instead of breeding them.
Have you been watching derbies since april 2009??Quote:
Originally Posted by Franck Le God
We don't compete - I'm hoping Sunday will change but I'm not confident.
Im happy with this signing, and it appears that the back 5 is more or less sorted for this season (in whatever combination).
I hope this isnt the only signing before Sunday however, we really need something extra going forward, whether that be a winger or a new striker (or ideally, both!).
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Originally Posted by cynic
it beats me :agree:
Not saying Maybury is an exciting signing however he will do a job IMO. Just for interest who would you consider an exciting signing?Quote:
Originally Posted by cynic
Think of anyone in your mind that YOU would actually want to go and pay money to see play football.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
That would be an exciting signing.
I think it is exciting but perhaps for different reasons than some. Firstly, it shows that he had a first choice and at least one backup. That puts to bed the theories that Hibs haven't been looking for players. On the contrary, Hibs have been looking for players but they've missed out for one reason or another. The reason for them turning us down is known only to those involved but that won't stop people making assumptions based on their own agenda. Secondly, if Maybury is better than what we have and allows Fenlon to play the team in the formation that he wants, with the players he wants in each position, then that has to be seen as a positive. Thirdly, it's another new player and one that some people regard as an improvement and what have people been screaming for? More players / improvements. I'm not saying he's the best player out there but he might be as good as we're going to get now. I'm sure it takes time to build the team that you want i.e., you get all your first picks at each position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
$0.02
So what you're saying is:Quote:
Originally Posted by cynic
Williams - good goalie
Sparky - Good footballer, did make mistakes last year he's said he's working on
McPake - Our best player by a country mile last year made permanent
Cairney - Time will tell as he's only played one game
Clancy - Good signing
Deegan - A club who are in the **** financially are glad to cut their wage bill a bit, plus we haven't seen him play yet.
PETRIE :grr:
What a lot of nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by cynic
Firstly, Maybury will be coming in at some position within the defence (RB or LB) to try and tighten things up. Whats the problem with that? Are you happy for us to keep conceding goals every single week? Im not saying hes going to be the answer, Ive not seen him in the team, but theyve seen him training over the last few weeks and must rate him enough.
You also suggest Cairney wont be up to it because he came from the first division. Do you watch Scottish football? Plenty of players step up from the lower leagues, some of whom are the best players in the SPL.
As for your last paragraph, you moan that we havent signed any marquee players, but then go on to say we shouldnt be signing those players and instead bringing through youth. Which is it? To be successful requires a reasonably good mix of both youngsters, and players brought in. I also dont think the 'marquee' signing is something we need right now. Weve been there and done that, it doesnt really work. Id much rather have a team that works as a unit, stops conceding stupid goals and actually wins games. It wont happen overnight but Fenlon seems to be trying to take us in that direction (whether he gets the time to do so is another question).
Mackay-Stevens, arguably the best prospect this season was signed from Airdrie. Templeton from Stenhousemuir and I'm well aware there is more. So the point you make on cairney doesn't really fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by cynic
So the recruits have been awful but yet you sayQuote:
Originally Posted by cynic
Ben - looks strong
Griffiths - semi-decent
Mcpake - decent
Cairney - remains to be seen
Clancy - did good, looks like the best signing
Deegan - too soon to say
I struggle to see how you come up with "awful" based on your own analysis of the players. They're either decent or it's too soon.
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
It's truly awful isn't it. Hibs aren't allowed to make good signings, if we pick up a talented player they are too much of a trouble maker than they are worth on the pitch. If we get an experienced professional, we are picking up the scraps left over from other teams. :rolleyes:
Honestly, I think if anyone with a brain were to judge Paddy on his signings alone, they'd find him to be a very good manager.
I really hope he is allowed to bring in 2-3 more of his targets, I then think we will be in good steed for the rest of the season.
Is that really necessary? Why do people feel the need to make disparaging comments like that prior to making a reasonable post?Quote:
Originally Posted by too_many_djs
Yes, they've seen him training and 'rate him enough'. Unfortunately, Kujabi was also 'rated enough', as was Claros (who could turn out to be OK), Doherty, Francombe, Doyle etc. An old player from a mid-table SPL club isn't exactly the signing we should be making to push the club FORWARD. The signing stinks of desperation; the kind of signing a club looking at another relegation battle would makeQuote:
Firstly, Maybury will be coming in at some position within the defence (RB or LB) to try and tighten things up. Whats the problem with that? Are you happy for us to keep conceding goals every single week? Im not saying hes going to be the answer, Ive not seen him in the team, but theyve seen him training over the last few weeks and must rate him enough.
I suggest that he hasn't hardly set the heather alight in the first division which could be an indicator that he isn't up to the standards of top 4 football in the SPL. Yes, the latter is true, but exceptions don't make a rule. I hope it comes to fruition that he is an excellent footballer, but for me it's a big gamble.Quote:
You also suggest Cairney wont be up to it because he came from the first division. Do you watch Scottish football? Plenty of players step up from the lower leagues, some of whom are the best players in the SPL.
I would like both, actually. A couple of marquee signings supplemented with talented youth. Look at the teams from the top 6 last season compared to ours. The quality is not there, and how anyone can argue that it is, is seriously beyond me.Quote:
As for your last paragraph, you moan that we havent signed any marquee players, but then go on to say we shouldnt be signing those players and instead bringing through youth. Which is it? To be successful requires a reasonably good mix of both youngsters, and players brought in. I also dont think the 'marquee' signing is something we need right now. Weve been there and done that, it doesnt really work. Id much rather have a team that works as a unit, stops conceding stupid goals and actually wins games. It wont happen overnight but Fenlon seems to be trying to take us in that direction (whether he gets the time to do so is another question).
Oh, sorry Einstein. Yes, I'm brainless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs-1875
In SPL terms they're decent-ish, but in relation to a club of Hibernian's standard, they're poor. I also said 'pretty awful', and not simply awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibsMax
We finished eleventh but yoiu reckon that they would be good at the clubs that finished above us?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by cynic
Williams - good goalie
Strong in comparison to Stack who was simply awful - I got lambasted for saying that too.
Sparky - Good footballer, did make mistakes last year he's said he's working on
Attitude problem and is inconsistent. Has talent but doesn't score enough goals. Massively overrated by our support.
McPake - Our best player by a country mile last year made permanent
Looked strong a lot of the time but was prone to the odd error. Definitely wasn't the messiah most claimed him to be, but I'm happy with him as part of the team.
Cairney - Time will tell as he's only played one game
Gamble
Clancy - Good signing
Potentially a good signing
Deegan - A club who are in the **** financially are glad to cut their wage bill a bit, plus we haven't seen him play yet.
They were happy to get him off the wage bill based on his prowess as a football player.
PETRIE :grr:
What? Hibernian's standards are not, or SHOULD NOT be 11th place. Just because we finished there one season doesn't mean that's where we should be. Based on the size of the club, the wages we pay and the facilities we offer, we should be aiming for no lower than 4th place with Rangers out of the scene. If you want to be facetious, that's fine, but I don't think anyone can argue with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
The mess that CC left us in, 11th was punching above our weight. By all means, CC's legacy should have seen us playing first division football this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by cynic
We're at a low ebb. We aren't a top six club by any means right now.
There is no devine right though. Hibs have been in a state for 3-4 years now.Quote:
Originally Posted by cynic
We are thus unnattractive to most players and Pat has a whole mentality and attitude problem to solve throughout the club, as well as improve things on the park.
I'm as depressed as the next guy about our current state and agree Hibs should be 'aiming' for top 5 finishes every year, but in sport you don't achieve anything unless you earn it. We have to let Pat get on with his job in hand and support him.
If anyone doesn't think Lee Griffiths is a good footballer, they need thier heid looked at. And Leigh's attitude problem was nothing to do with a lack of application - it's his tendancy for the red mist to come down, which isn't always a negative attribute when you gain a bit of maturity.
But we should be. The board constantly drill us with the message that that's where our target is, so we should be making signings to reflect that intention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I do support him, and if you look at my previous posts you'll see that I'm more 'happy clapper' than anything - my alias is incorrect, maybe? That doesn't mean I can't give opinions on, what are, highly uninspiring signings. I do think it's time we return to our policy of letting youth play a bigger part, and maybe supplement a less experienced squad with one or two bigger names. Guess that's not an option now, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
Red mist has nothing to do with maturity? In what way could anger that clouds one's judgement be portrayed as a positive attribute? :confused::confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by 500miles