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Obviously not a football clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Admin 2 is facing them in the puss right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
I don't know which ones, but I’m sure I read somewhere that there are another one or two clubs intending to go to court.Quote:
Originally Posted by EI255
Just read quite a good analysis of Heart's current plight in the Evening News
Four Years In The Making
Amiens in France apparently suing for compo. Dutch teams lost their court case.Quote:
Originally Posted by EI255
There have been rumours that some lower leagues around the world, might not even start when the BIG leagues start, due to not being worthwhile money wise.
Now that would be a really really BIG shame if that happened in Scotland. :fibber:
Have you got a link re the Dutch teams? Googled but couldn't find anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
Shall we have a sweepstake on when Budge throws in the towel?
It would be much funnier if she announces legal action, with a crack team led by conveyancer Leslie Deans, but even she must see the problems with that.
So, when will the least dignified relegation ever finally end?
If they have been officially relegated and if reconstruction is voted through, then why is it assumed they would automatically get one of the places in the new setup? It would appear that the other 9 championship clubs would have as much right to a place in the premiership, given none of them will have played any games to determine who comes up. Are the championship clubs going to vote for Hearts to come back up even though it would appear that they have as much right as Hearts to grab the additional places.
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Originally Posted by Keith_M
Yes, Joel Sked at least remembers that he is paid to be a journalist and not a Jambo cheerleader like Banderson.
But does he also work as Budge’s statement writer? The grammar in this piece is awful.
That article is just sheer joy for the eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Joel Sked - a better writer than I first thought.
Oh dear, the bitterness continues lol
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Some 9iar (not 9ira, as I accidentally posted the other day😁).
The first in 2012 by default, the next four up against opposition whose combined budget's they dwarfed and now an awarded, incomplete title.
Hollow doesn't begin to describe this "achievement".
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Anyone seen hearts have kept the livi ticket money, been kept very hush hush.
Nobody’s seeing any of that cash again, other than maybe Budgies Hibby brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by percy veer
Hibs emailed me today, to say that a refund for Hamilton away, will be in my account by the end of the week, this was for away season ticket holdersQuote:
Originally Posted by percy veer
So Livvi quite rightly have passed this onto Hearts
Only at tinycastle could the clubs official manager be working for free while the previous assistant manager and manager who have both been sacked from these roles continue to receive their full salaries. and they moan about financial difficulties when relegated 🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser1962
Thats it. If the league did (unbelievably) get increases to 14, ICT and Dundee should be in front of hearts. Dundee would certainly be within there rights to claim the place rightfully and legally before hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikers110
Some things just don’t changeQuote:
Originally Posted by percy veer
Today just keeps getting better. Vintage Hearts.Quote:
Originally Posted by percy veer
Wouldn't surprise meQuote:
Originally Posted by percy veer
Gary Mackay on sportsound tonight saying he wants Tommy Wright to steer them out the championship next season. Says he has 'proved' he's got what it takes 😂😂😂😂 Honestly what planet are these fuds on
To be fair I think Wright is a decent manager and his horrible style of play would be no problem at Tynecastle.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcohibs
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Is he not the new Northern Ireland manager?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I’m all for taking the piss but is that not quite a sensible shout by Medals?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcohibs
Aye but why on earth would Tommy Wright who has just walked away from a top flight job and is being touted as the next possible Northern Ireland manager even consider taking a job at that absolute basket case of a football club. They are delusional beyond beliefQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Skybet paid out on this today :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Maybe missed this but what was the vote result today? Did it need the usual 11-1 to get the season ended?
Naw it's the classic 'big team' chat. Apparently Wright has 'proven himself'. As if he is at some minnow team from league one and that moving to Hearts would be a massive step up for him and he'd be lucky to get the job. It would be a huge backwards step for Wright but they're talking as if it's a dream job for him. Their illusions of grandeur know no boundsQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Said it before I don't get the she is a great business woman , she may well have been decent then lucky that someone bought her out at the right time.
She is like the emperor with no clothes on , they are all afraid to say anything against her. She liked the publicity right from the start taking every opportunity to get her photo taken wearing that old maroon checked carpet.
She is a great business woman ? Has anyone else heard of a club forgetting to order seats for their new stand , they forgot about the police box during design , had to move directors box cause the plebs could get them and journalists get soaked .
After the seats fiasco they have got staircase to nowhere and best of all they don't know what they are going to do with the 2nd floor yet !!!. Stand is not finished yet and is millions of pounds over budget.
Her undying love for Craigy 'on the lavvy' Leven and all his signings has cost them an absolute fortune and she had him showing the new manager around the wonderful unfinished stand and the rented training facillites.
They are still paying a hefty wad to Mr Natural Order while Daniel' I once finished above Jack Ross in the league ' Stendel gets nothing.
The good thing is she has given her Hibs supporting brother millions of pounds of contracts allegedly without a proper tender process who in turn with the money sponsors Hibs golf days and Hibs players.
Hopefully all the flumps will get right behind her and give her more money she has taken legal advice from Leslie Deans and he says they have got a watertight case.
Good work. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool_Hand_Luke
Wonder if Levein and McPhee will get to lead the rebuild haha
Had forgotten about that. £50 I wasn't expecting, shame I only bet on them being in the bottom 2. Lost my Hibs in top 3 bet though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool_Hand_Luke
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Originally Posted by h1bs4life
for the love of god man, i've still to eat
jeezo :ill:
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Originally Posted by Irish_Steve
This is a comfort blanket for the Rangers.
Our neighbours really are diet Huns.
Just drove down Roseburn along from the Roseburn bar and just outside her house they’ll have to get the police first of all there’s a big and angry crowd gathering dressed rather strangely and with pitch forks and torches shouting something like “burn the witch ,burn the witch very strange :greengrin
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Originally Posted by Cool_Hand_Luke
haha me too. a paltry 2.96 @ 5's for finishing in the bottom two. not a great deal but almost £15 to throw at the German footballQuote:
Originally Posted by 007
There’s no way St Mirren and Hamilton are going to vote yes to reconstruction when Dundee Utd are coming up and spending cash and Hearts couldn’t possibly be as bad next season. It would put them more at risk of relegation next year as it could be 2 straight down.
It might not even get to a vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdawg
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
You weren't drug driving [emoji28]Quote:
Originally Posted by Garymcl
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....in a Ronald Villiers voice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Garymcl
The more they ramp up the threats of court action in the run up to a vote on reconstruction, the more convinced I am that it is just a tactic to put pressure on clubs to vote for it.
It is a very risky tactic that could backfire. On one hand they're looking for sympathy continually going on about how unfair it is (forgetting how they've been the worst team in the league) and on the other they're holding a gun to clubs' heads by threatening court action. Feel sorry for us or we'll f*** you up. There's every chance that sort of tactic will cost them as many, or possibly more, votes as it will win them.
It's a hail Mary play from the Jambos and hail Mary's have a less than 10% success rate.
😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
BBC Breakfast just led their football section with Hearts threatening to take legal action even before they talked about Celtic winning the league. Utterly embarrassing. Talk about coercion and threats !!
Why are the clubs allowing Hearts and Budge to fanny about with reconstruction, when they are openly threatening legal action if they don't get their way ? Who does that ?
I don't think there will be a BBC Scotland after next year's indyref, either way. It' is no longer fit for purpose, since Brexit, whatever your views.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
If the narrower pro-UK forces win the 2021 Indyref vote then the control of the BBC will be shifted to HQ down south & Scottish content systematically reduced.
If the more internationalist-looking independista side emerges with the future in its hands, a more European future, it's hard to see what BBC Scotland will offer.
Either way, it's probably in its end stages, and (if we're honest) it kind of shows
Great post keeping the thread firmly on track :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
They’ve got their blankies out this morning!
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We probably shouldnt concern ourselves with what lower division teams do though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
It would be three down one in play off to return to present format.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdawg
I know we shouldn’t but I have the misfortune of having them as chums on Social Media!Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
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Just go ahead and remind them what division they're in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
I don’t need to... their silence on the subject tells me all I need to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
No bites yesterday!
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Thank you Joanna Cherry !Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Were you anywhere near the Dean Bridge? Heard is was roped off again. Lot of suicide attempts over that way just now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garymcl
Ahh. No way are clubs going to agree to that. So it’s unjust for hearts to face the financial consequences of relegation but fine for 3 teams next season. 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpdhfc
If Hearts were to save themselves with temporary reconstruction, it is absolutely guaranteed we’d finish third bottom in the season they relegated 3 to get it back to 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpdhfc
The temporary proposal seems to have disappeared. Not mentioned in Budgie's latest ramblings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heckys Wheel
I'm not even sure we should be discussing the rantings of those lunatics. I seriously doubt the football authorities are, and I think the press are only doing so as there's no real football related news with covid, and are mischief making. If I was a sports editor on a paper I'd ben giving Budge as much of a voice as possible, and encouraging her to go more out there. It's all there is.
Could it not be potentially 4 teams to be relegated? Surely the Championship aren’t going to give up their playoff place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdawg
2 to even up the number of PL teams back to 12
1 in exchange for the promotion of the Championship Winners
1 (potentially) if the Championship team wins the playoff.
Realistically, taking the Old Firm out of the equation. it’s 4 out of 12. That’ll be some scramble.
All because this season’s rightful relegation candidates threw their toys out of the pram.
Or 4 teams from the bottom 8. Image ending up in the bottom 8 in February knowing half the teams down there could be relegated. There’s no way Dundee Utd will take that chance after spending 4 years trying for promotion and that goes for all the other teams below the old firm. Total madness and no way Hearts would go for that in any other circumstance.Quote:
Originally Posted by monarch
There is already a backlog in the Law Courts, realistically it could be the end of next season before they could progress any legal action. Also surprised that no journalist has written about the complexities of bringing legal action against the SPFL.
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Anyone seen this, the inside story of Hearts 2012 cup win ? not one apology for all the folk who were left short because of their spending on players, they deserve what is happening to them now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48371210
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
She's nothin' but trouble anywiy, wi' her broomstick and her black cat and aw that.
I recommend not reading it if you value your blood pressureQuote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
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You have to wonder why the BBC would post this propaganda right now ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
Over on Keekboak some punter tried using words he didn't understand in a poorly thought out analogy...
"A genuine threat of a Judge lifting the bonnet on the Celtic run canal"
...I am no rocket scientis but surely if you lift the bonnet in a canal you would flood the carburetor?
Of course, the BBC will have a feature on Thurs about 21.05.16. all ready to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
Won't they...?? :Ummm:
It's the anniversary of that game today. I wonder if they'll do the same on Thursday for the last time a team that wasn't Celtic won a major trophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
Might give it a missQuote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
Cheers though
Its today. Our tainted win with kickings in two days time.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
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No doubt this story is given full coverage by the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
https://en.delfi.lt/business/romanov....d?id=83386289
Might give it a missQuote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
Cheers though
I dont understand Hibs fans getting upset about people, Hearts fans or otherwise, looking back at that game.
It was a huge game, and they got a landmark result (that they rightly celebrate, as we would if it were us).
Taking the hump about it just makes us look a bit churlish, and dare i say, a bit hunnish in trying to shout down anything that isnt a puff piece about Hibs.
Tbh I don’t really care. (Them bottling it and us winning in 2016 healed that wound) I can understand why folk would though. The way they won it, Black should have been sent off and then the penalty that never was. We still may not have won but it was the manner in which it was won that sticks in folks throats.Quote:
Originally Posted by James Stephen
But calling folks huns and churlish says exactly where your coming from and is out of order!
Got the reaction you wanted btw! [emoji112]
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Relegation seems to have put their gas at a peep today a little bit. My Facebook timeline is very quite on the subject for the first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
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There's an Ian Black/Allisbarry piece in the EEN today which takes slavering pish to new levels.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...hearts-2857313
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Craig Levein is the 'root of all problems' at Hearts
Ex-midfielder says too many want to ‘line their own pockets’ in Scottish football
By Barry Anderson
Tuesday, 19th May 2020, 7:40 am
The 35-year-old backed supporters to rally and help Hearts survive the drop but also savaged those running Scottish football, said they are only concerned with "lining their own pockets".
Black watched Hearts toil all season and feels former manager Levein is largely responsible. He was sacked in October and replaced by Daniel Stendel after the Edinburgh club fell to the bottom of the Premiership.
The Scottish Professional Football League yesterday officially ended the top-flight campaign and consigned Hearts to relegation.
Although admitting owner Ann Budge must shoulder a portion of the blame, Black said the majority of it must lie with Levein.
"I think it's ridiculous," he stated. "Ann has come in and saved the club, to then have to take some blame for a bit of the mess having kept Levein in the job for the amount of time she did.
"On a personal note, I think he's the root of all problems for the state Hearts are in."
Levein capped Black for Scotland whilst managing the national team but endured an unfulfilling second spell as manager at Tynecastle Park.
He has been working in a background role since being relieved of his duties as manager and director of football. He is due to leave officially on May 31 when his contract expires.
"The club will always survive because the fans will support them through thick and thin," said Black. "They dug them out of a hole once and they will dig them out again. They will bounce back from relegation.
"It's soul-destroying to watch – having achieved what they did to see how they are now."
Black won the Scottish Cup with Hearts eight years ago today in the famous 5-1 victory over city rivals Hibs. They were relegated two years later after lapsing into administration but recovered with aplomb to qualify for Europe in 2016.
This recent fall from grace comes after the SPFL and clubs agreed the 2019/20 season could not be completed due to the coronavirus pandemic.
Hearts had eight games remaining and were four points adrift at the bottom of the Premiership. Black even suspects the decision to end the campaign at this moment might have been timed to dampen the 5-1 anniversary.
"The people who run Scottish football are a bit of a shambles anyway," he said. "They've probably looked at this decision knowing it's today that Hearts are going to celebrate the greatest result in their history.
"To demote them and end the league on the day that they have, I wouldn't put it past them organising that. I've always had an issue with the way Scottish football is run."
He feels the Scottish Football Association don’t offer enough help to the SPFL, clubs or grassroots development.
"The people who were on the board when I was there were more interested in lining their own pockets than looking after the youth," he added.
"I've played in England and I still get contact from organisations down there. They send you links about wellbeing and offer you opportunities. I've played most of my career in Scotland now and I haven't heard from the Scottish FA once."
Thanks Ian Black, now the timing of the SPFL announcement all makes sense...Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
“The people who run Scottish football are a bit of a shambles anyway," he said. "They've probably looked at this decision knowing it's today that Hearts are going to celebrate the greatest result in their history.”
Trumpet.
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So why not announce it today if they wanted to piss on his parade?Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor
The hurt is strong in this one! :thumbsup:Quote:
Black even suspects the decision to end the campaign at this moment might have been timed to dampen the 5-1 anniversary
He's not the sharpest paint brush in the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by McS****y
There's also the nonsense about people 'lining their pockets".
Anyone who might be making money in Scottish football will do so regardless of what league Hearts aree in.
The vast majority however struggle just to break even. Are they meant to take an even bigger hit (on top of the Covid-19 stuff) just to help Hearts?
First Leslie Deans the guy convicted for fraud now Ian Black, the guy caught betting against his own team 😂 the big guns are coming out in forceQuote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
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Originally Posted by Kato
We should just gloss over it
Easy Tiger Leslie The Laundryman was only charged never convicted let alone tried. You might want to retract that before he sues you for a 4 figure sum...Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
£15.15Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
They obviously meant to, but the "SFA" is such a "shambles" (according to Sevco, HMFC & Inverness) they must have got their dates wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Absolute classic. The spfl were so determined to humiliate Hearts on the anniversary of their greatest result they got the date wrong. :faf::faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor
I didnt call anyone a hun or churlish i dont think, i said that getting wound up about them or others celebrating that match is churlish and hunnish (meaning the behaviour, not the people).Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Not an AST but got the Hamilton away tic in my wallet still. Will email the clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Don't think anyone is getting wound up? The fact that a Beeb journo can write a piece on it but fail to mention they were overspending so much they went bust within a year seems a bit odd though, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by James Stephen
Can you believe that? Black must be off his nut !Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
I think they are still hurting lol
manaliveits105 (such a catchy username!) quoted:
We should canvas Oxford dictionary for a new word -
celticing = cheerfully celebrating a meaningless victory whilst your fellow country people die around you
Drama queen anyone?
Must be the paint fumes :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
It’s all Levein’s fault but he admits that Budge must take a portion of the blame ! What, you mean like hiring the guy three times perhaps ? The way they are all trying to deflect the blame for this clusterfeck from where it actually lies, with Budge the Fudge, is astounding, but very comforting because the longer this sad old biddy is in charge over there, the better it will be as they slump deeper into the mire, lovely !Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Taking the hump about it just makes us look a bit churlish, and dare i say, a bit hunnish in trying to shout down anything that isnt a puff piece about HibsQuote:
Originally Posted by James Stephen
[emoji1312]Is what you posted.
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Originally Posted by delbert
"I think it's ridiculous," he stated. "Ann has come in and saved the club, to then have to take some blame for a bit of the mess having kept Levein in the job for the amount of time she did.
"On a personal note, I think he's the root of all problems for the state Hearts are in."
So whose fault is it? is it Ann or is it Craig?
That's some conspiracy theory. I assume they didn't do it today because that would have been too obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor