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Hibs have had Alan Rough, Andy Goram and Jim Leighton on their books and won nothing, while the keepers in our three most recent trophy wins were John Burridge, Andy McNeil and Conrad Logan. Keepers just need to be competent and Pickford's more than capable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Interesting debate, so you won't be surprised that on this occasion I disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Totally fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
Genuinely asking. In which way do any of these guys better Messi?
Pickford has literally never let England down. Saved a penalty in every shootout he's played in for them too. And an excellent keeper for Everton. Plenty worse than him won a lot of silverware.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Anyone watch Jack Butland for The Rangers versus Ajax
Comedy gold
Almost as funny as Hearts’ triumphant march along the maroon mile led by pipe bands to celebrate their 150th only to get pumped by Leyton Orient 1-2 at Tiny
I'm sure I watched a video breaking down the stats behind messi and came away from it thinking if we go by stats and only stats, he's probably the best we will ever see.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
A genuine anomaly on every single level
Didn't know that score. Brought a smile to my face.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
He's also quite charismatic in a squad of players that - whilst immensely talented - can appear at times to be a bit bland.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Pickford's definitely not a problem for them - working out what they do down their left side, how they keep Bellingham's ego in check and how they balance playing their talented players and keeping those who are on the bench happy most definitely are.
Right back is also just a huge mess as well. Southgate didn't pick white, rate Trent and James is crocked. Walker was a mess this Euros.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Suppose if it's judged on World Cups, Pele has a far better record and performed better in them all round. Until Argentina won the last World Cup Messi hadn't always been at his best IMO. That grates on me, as I regard Messi as a truly brilliant player, but for me didn't perform as well in World Cups as Pele or Maradonna. Nowadays the Champions League is regarded as important as the World Cup IMO, but the European Cup before it, while still a hugely important tournament, doesn't seem to have the same kudos, and that's possibly down to money. So because we have access to more football nowadays, often our opinion of greatness is coloured by more recent teams and performers. It's just my opinion, and obviously you have a different one, but I should underline that I still regard Messi as one of the greatest footballers of all timeQuote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
All these clowns defending Pickford
Take your John Bull glasses off and do the one simple thing - look at the goals he conceded
Case in point France's opener in Qatar
Pickford loses the same goal A LOT
Exhibit B - the exact same goal v Denmark in Euro 2024
You win nothing with Bang Average goalies
He's at Everton for a reason. They are skint yet not one single big clubs wants to take him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Was there a reason why the tarts played Leyton Orient in their 150th celebrations? I would have thought that Barca, Real Madrid, Man U, Liverpool or possibly a world select including Messi, Ronaldo etc would have been invited to show reverence to the self proclaimed "famous"Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
12 ‘technical observers’ picked Walker in the team of the tournament.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Something to do with both clubs winning the war back in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Absolutely. He's comfortably the best English keeper available, recently broke Peter Shilton's record for clean sheets at international tournaments and has actually kept a clean sheet in almost half his England appearances.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
I think Pope is probably a better keeper in terms of his actual goalkeeping but Pickford is a presence and a character on the pitch, and for goalkeepers that matters massively.Quote:
Originally Posted by supermcginn
Even if Pope was fit I still think Southgate would have played Pickford.
2:20 and 4:00 in . Commentator says freekick one might have took abit of a deflection 😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
https://youtu.be/xEhco1uPIrQ?si=feYkjPhlaqAfKZZe
Apparently they were the first 2 clubs whose players signed up en masse for the war effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
I'd have pickford in my team, very good keeper. My criticism of him was how many times he hoofed the ball long. But I suppose that was the agreed tactics
What a bizarre way to choose a team to play. Just screams out heartsQuote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
Much as I can't stand the guy, pretty sure they had one of the best, if not the best, clean sheet record in the league last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by supermcginn
Your last couple of sentences there... heard that a few times before over the decades. England have improved beyond recognition from a decade ago for sure but that's now 4 tournaments in a row that this talented young team have had a very real chance of winning, and they've found a way of not winning any of them. Absolutely no guarantee they're going to win anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Airdrie beating East Kilbride 6-0. 35 mins played
Isn’t that clown Simon Ferry their assistant? Couldn’t happen to a better person.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
Airdrie winning 8-0 now
Dunfermline 2 down at home to forfar
Falkirk getting beat for first time in a while
Spartans five up at Cove.
Only 3 of the team for the 2018 World Cup semi-final started the game on Sunday. They've been steadily evolving and could arguably get even stronger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia