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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
don't think he can, it’s a 2 term limit
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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
don't think he can, it’s a 2 term limit
No that doesn't appear to be the reason. I'm guessing Trump has some influence on giving them the green light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
No he could only do four more years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
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Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
It might be the end of Trump (assuming he doesn't run again, which seems unlikely though not out of the question for somebody like him) but it's highly unlikely to be the end of 'Trumpism'.
Trump himself may be a bampot and we might like to write off his presidency as a one-off abberation, but it doesn't mean the 70 million Americans who voted for him are just going to roll over. Many of his ideas were clearly highly popular with a massive swathe of the population and it's easy to forget in the midst of a pandemic that pre-Covid the American economy was in robust shape, which raised wages for many low-skilled workers.
Trump's biggest allies were actually the intellectual left/liberal/metropolitan elite (call them what you will) who ignored the very voters who should have formed their natural heartland, but who ended up seeing Trump's offer as something mainstream politics had failed to provide them with. A similar 'forgotten majority' to those who ended up voting Britian out of the EU.
If the left continue to make the same mistakes (and they must have feared they'd done so as their expectations of a Biden landslide evaporated on election night) there's every chance of another populist surge.
https://twitter.com/lispower1/status...457391107?s=21
Shows how powerful media companies can be. Two weeks ago Fox would not have batted an eye and the allegations would have credibility simply by being aired. Taking the stream off and highlighting the lack of evidence exposes the weakness of the conspiracy being peddled
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Murdoch has always had the ability to switch horse when it suits his business interests. This is a clear sign that he sees Trump as dead in the water now. He’ll move very quickly to try discredit him as much as possible because he does not want Trump setting up his own network and taking all the crazies with him.
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:agree: Times running a story against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
There are a number of people, mostly politicians and newspaper columnists, that are suggesting that now is the time to heal divisions between the warring sides and try to build bridges with the Trump side and his supporters.
I totally agree that's the best approach... but Trump is currently making that impossible with his (totally predictable) Toys Out The Pram behaviour.
Surely most people that did vote Trump are embarrassed by the stuff that's coming out of his Twitter posts, and from his entourage?
This is alway my concern when those on the left (not that the Democrats are much to the left) win. They are told they must embrace the country, listen to those that didn't vote with them, be moderate and compromise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
The right win and go for a hard Brexit, troll the left as Trump has done for years, and generally do what they want.
Right now Biden needs to govern as he believes is right, and worry less about Trump supporters. As you've noted, he and his team aren't allowing that to happen. I want to see the Democrats aggressively push their agenda and pursue whatever legal means they have to ensure crimes committed by Trump and his team are brought to justice.
It's a disgrace that Nixon was pardoned and it shouldn't be allowed to happen again.
Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico for a start. Try and balance the Senate out a bit.
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I've still got this horrible nagging feeling...
Have you seen a doctor? 😷😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Interestingly I’ve still got a cash out option on my Republicans winning the election bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
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Really? I'd have grabbed that a couple of days ago but now I'm not so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Nah.Trump's not getting re-elected. All this legal pish is just the orange moron coming to terms with his grief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
And squeezing some cash out of the populationQuote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Let's hear it for the grifter!Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Yep think I read it says in the small print on all these fundraisers that it can be used to pay off campaign debts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
I know some people that are spouting out trumps rhetoric and claiming the vote was rigged Dead people voted and Trump is the winner and the Courts will find fir him
One is losing friends as they believe they are speaking the truth and others are wrong
Frightening stuff
Can’t understand why someone is getting so worked up about the American Election when the Tories are acting the way they are ffs
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We have a guy in our work who has always been seen as a little odd (quite religious though not that this would explain the oddness:greengrin) however one of my colleagues who he barely knows said the guy was discussing the election and he was very exercised by it all on how Trump was being badly treated in the media and that it was hugely important that he were to win. Seems strange to be that bothered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
Trump's hold on some people does seem messianic.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
The claim so far seems to be they cheated so I lost
Wheres is should be
Here evidnece that shows I've been cheated and hence why I lost
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It does as he is an intelligent person but apparently wouldn't consider any of Trumps weaker points at all when questioned about them. Very strangeQuote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Hadn't realised that he claimed all the same sort of stuff in 2016, when he wasn't a complete :loser:Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
From the Washington Post then:
"President-elect Donald Trump spent Sunday ridiculing Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign for joining a recount effort in Wisconsin, ending his day on Twitter by parroting a widely debunked conspiracy theory that her campaign benefited from massive voter fraud.
As his senior advisers engaged in an escalating feud over who the next secretary of state should be, Trump focused publicly on Clinton’s tally of 64 million votes — more than 2 million beyond what he garnered — by suggesting without evidence that millions of people illegally voted in the election.
“In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally,” Trump tweeted late Sunday, one of more than 10 tweets on the recount issue.
That accusation — spread by conspiracy sites such as *Infowars.com and discredited by fact-checking organizations — gained traction among some far-right conservatives disappointed that Trump lost the popular vote."
He has a magnetic appeal to a whole range of weirdos because he panders to their racism, bigotry, extremist religious views, paranoia, conspiracies and greed. They are all desperate to be legitimized and the best thing they can all hope for is to be able to say "My views are not weird because the president shares them". It doesn't bother them in the slightest that he probably doesn't really hold similar weird views, it's enough that their weird views are legitimized.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
In the 'paranoia' category ... https://twitter.com/jonvoight/status/1326323889417322497Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
He starts with the words "I stand here...."Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
He's sitting down, no? :greengrin
And then quotes a Muslim.....:cb
His eyes are jumping about as if the cue cards his captors are making him read aloud are too big.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Sad to see that, great actor, Runaway Train is a particular favourite. You just want to ask these people; where is the actual evidence? That’s the obvious question.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
:tsk tsk: Satan works in mysterious ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah