Driving Pet Peeves

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Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2

Another day, another black cab driver swinging out to do a U-turn from a parking space without looking.

Considering how much black drivers like to big themselves up and tell everyone they’re professional drivers, the general standard of driving by them is appalling.

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Just had one literally inches from my back bumper whilst I was doing the speed limit.

My daughter is close to sitting her test and so I've been taking her out in the car loads over the last couple of weeks with the L plates on.

The lack of awareness from other drivers, or just sheer stupidity from them is unreal. Tailgating, pulling out in front of her, going onto roundabouts when they should be waiting... It's unreal.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

My daughter is close to sitting her test and so I've been taking her out in the car loads over the last couple of weeks with the L plates on.

The lack of awareness from other drivers, or just sheer stupidity from them is unreal. Tailgating, pulling out in front of her, going onto roundabouts when they should be waiting... It's unreal.

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I've had similar experiences.

My take on it is that learners get to know, quickly, that not all drivers are decent. That's a great tool to have IMO.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

I've had similar experiences.

My take on it is that learners get to know, quickly, that not all drivers are decent. That's a great tool to have IMO.

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Not specific to drivers, but I think there's a place for something like this in the part of the school curriculum where religious education, citizenship etc sits – the stuff that attempts to give kids a grasp of how the world functions and how other people might think and act.

I'd introduce a compulsory 10-week block called Some People Are Just Dicks.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

My daughter is close to sitting her test and so I've been taking her out in the car loads over the last couple of weeks with the L plates on.

The lack of awareness from other drivers, or just sheer stupidity from them is unreal. Tailgating, pulling out in front of her, going onto roundabouts when they should be waiting... It's unreal.

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Some people are just ********s around learners.

I was on the A6106 the other day heading towards Sherriffhall. It's a 60 limit starting after a drop to 30 then 40 through and after Newton Village. A learner in front of me was doing just over 50 on the 60 section. I was hanging back to give her plenty space. This tool tailgated me all the way through the 30 and 40 section (with the obligatory slam of the brakes at the speed camera). He then proceeded to fly into the wrong lane to try and pass but he was so close to me he couldn't see a car coming the other way. Got past me, didn't pull in to the sizeable gap between the learner and myself and must have been at well over 80 desperately fighting to get past the learner (who eased off significantly) as a car came the other way flashing lights and clearly braking hard. He got in front of the learner with inches to spare forcing her to slam on the brakes which forced me to brake hard and off he continued on his merry way.

If it wasn't for the fact he would have taken someone else with him and the whole host of other people it would have impacted I wouldn't have shed a single tear if his stupid BMW and the waste of space driving it had been wiped clean out.

Having only passed my test a couple of years ago, I make myself invisible when I see a learner on the road. I know what it’s like to be nervous behind the wheel, the last thing you need is some dick behaving like a dick and unnerving you even more.

My instructor had to near enough physically restrain me from getting out the car to banjo someone who was clapping sarcastically in the vehicle behind me and getting all up in my grill. Hope that wee fanny entertained a lamppost further down the road.

Yeah, I think there's probably a fair overlap between folk who are dicks to learner drivers, rude to waiting staff and cruel to animals.

There's a particularly warm corner of hell waiting for them.

People who assume an indicator gives them right of way. Yes, you did indicate before you moved out in front of me and I had to break to not crash into you, well done.

Sometimes it's people with the best of intentions trying to make more room for someone joining from a slip road by vearing into my lane, and sometimes they're just trying to overtake as well.

As I write that, I'm not even sure if I'm the one in the wrong and just need to slow down and let it happen...

Cars that indicate the wrong way. I think I've mentioned this before but I've encountered it lots in Corstorphine since. I'm not sure if it is the same person I'm seeing over and over again or whether its a wider issue in the area.

Indicate left, go right. Indicate right, go left. For example, I was at the junction of the road that takes you into the Lidl/McDonalds car park at Meadow Place Rd, waiting to turn right onto Meadow Place Rd. Car in front was indicating left even though they were positioned to the right and cars were to the left. Several drivers clearly thinking that this car messed up and was trying to get back to turn left. Nope, they turn right. They are again in front of me at the lights in the lane to turn right into Tesco. Initially no indicator on. Lights change and the left indicator goes on. Turns right. Get to the mini roundabout. Indicates right but positioned left and turns left and immediately puts on the left indicator as if to go into the petrol station. Nope drives past and turns right into the car park.

How they ever passed a test, I don't know.

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Originally Posted by overdrive

Cars that indicate the wrong way.

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Reminds me of this longstanding complaint: people not indicating at lights until the lights go green. Sat behind woman at lights outside Meadowbank Stadium heading East. She's in the right hand lane but no indicators. Lights go green and she then indicates that she wants to turn right towards the park. I'm sorry to say I lost my temper and sounded the horn. She had no idea what she had done wrong.

I think part of the reason from my overreaction was that I'd been sitting there thinking to myself, "I bet she decides to turn right".

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Originally Posted by grunt

Reminds me of this longstanding complaint: people not indicating at lights until the lights go green. Sat behind woman at lights outside Meadowbank Stadium heading East. She's in the right hand lane but no indicators. Lights go green and she then indicates that she wants to turn right towards the park. I'm sorry to say I lost my temper and sounded the horn. She had no idea what she had done wrong.

I think part of the reason from my overreaction was that I'd been sitting there thinking to myself, "I bet she decides to turn right".

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This bugs me too.

And it seems to be a more recent thing, people not indicating until they are actually turning not before they intend to turn.

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Originally Posted by hibee_girl

This bugs me too.

And it seems to be a more recent thing, people not indicating until they are actually turning not before they intend to turn.

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Folk that indicate right on the roundabout to exit it...



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Again one already covered, with all the temp light in Edinburgh, many roads are down to single lanes but you still get the knobend who drives all the way up to the roadworks and then indicates to join the rest of us. Always some eejit let's them in, if it was me they'd sit there all day in the wrong lane.

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Originally Posted by J-C

Again one already covered, with all the temp light in Edinburgh, many roads are down to single lanes but you still get the knobend who drives all the way up to the roadworks and then indicates to join the rest of us. Always some eejit let's them in, if it was me they'd sit there all day in the wrong lane.

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Do you mean when it filters? If so they're doing what you're supposed to do. It works like a zip. It's the people who queue for miles in one lane and won't let people in that cause the issues and tailbacks.

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Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy

Do you mean when it filters? If so they're doing what you're supposed to do. It works like a zip. It's the people who queue for miles in one lane and won't let people in that cause the issues and tailbacks.

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No, I'm saying when there are road works ahead with no lights but signs telling you the inside lane is closed with only the right to be used, they drive all the way up the inside lane right until the roadworks and then try to push their way into the right hands lane, most normal people see the signs saying 200yds, 100yds etc and move over to the proper lane.

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Originally Posted by J-C

No, I'm saying when there are road works ahead with no lights but signs telling you the inside lane is closed with only the right to be used, they drive all the way up the inside lane right until the roadworks and then try to push their way into the right hands lane, most normal people see the signs saying 200yds, 100yds etc and move over to the proper lane.

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Ah I see. I that case, twats [emoji1787]

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Originally Posted by J-C

No, I'm saying when there are road works ahead with no lights but signs telling you the inside lane is closed with only the right to be used, they drive all the way up the inside lane right until the roadworks and then try to push their way into the right hands lane, most normal people see the signs saying 200yds, 100yds etc and move over to the proper lane.

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I think the current advice is all lanes should be used until the merge point, then both/all lanes should zip in turn.
The 400, 200, 100 etc is to assist in timing the zip in turn.

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Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales

I think the current advice is all lanes should be used until the merge point, then both/all lanes should zip in turn.
The 400, 200, 100 etc is to assist in timing the zip in turn.

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No problem with that, it's the ones that drive all the way up to where the roadworks are and then try to force there way in instead of merging gradually like most folk.

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Originally Posted by J-C

No, I'm saying when there are road works ahead with no lights but signs telling you the inside lane is closed with only the right to be used, they drive all the way up the inside lane right until the roadworks and then try to push their way into the right hands lane, most normal people see the signs saying 200yds, 100yds etc and move over to the proper lane.

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I always get caught out with this when I'm in the UK, in Germany it's expected that you merge at the point where a lane closes and although the rules are the same in the UK, people don't seem to understand the advantages of using the "zipper" system. It's people who merge too early that cause the queue in the open lane to get longer.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

I always get caught out with this when I'm in the UK, in Germany it's expected that you merge at the point where a lane closes and although the rules are the same in the UK, people don't seem to understand the advantages of using the "zipper" system. It's people who merge too early that cause the queue in the open lane to get longer.

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I always find you get similar on motorway slip roads. People not realising you can use the whole length of the slip road and can get up to the speed of the traffic already on the carriageway. Instead they slow right down as soon as the entry area begins and try to find gaps in high speed traffic causing a big tailback up the slip road.

Not really a gripe but rather a comment. I’ve recently been driving a fair bit on the M74 and the M9 and nearly every overhead sign is saying ‘red cross is mandatory’ or ‘comply with red cross restrictions’. I understand what the warnings mean but there are/were no red cross signs above any lanes for miles and it seems like a long, protracted campaign and not particularly relevant, given the almost non existence or rarity of lane closures.

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Originally Posted by Jim44

Not really a gripe but rather a comment. I’ve recently been driving a fair bit on the M74 and the M9 and nearly every overhead sign is saying ‘red cross is mandatory’ or ‘comply with red cross restrictions’. I understand what the warnings mean but there are/were no red cross signs above any lanes for miles and it seems like a long, protracted campaign and not particularly relevant, given the almost non existence or rarity of lane closures.

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They went up after multiple attempts to test the measures to use the Forth Bridge if and when the Queensferry Crossing was unavailable. The tests failed because so many motorists ignored the red X in the sign.

You see it all the time, they do often have lanes closed using the red x on that road approaching the bridge, and folk routinely ignore it.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

They went up after multiple attempts to test the measures to use the Forth Bridge if and when the Queensferry Crossing was unavailable. The tests failed because so many motorists ignored the red X in the sign.

You see it all the time, they do often have lanes closed using the red x on that road approaching the bridge, and folk routinely ignore it.

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Is driving through a red cross the equivalent of running a red light? It is here in Germany.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Is driving through a red cross the equivalent of running a red light? It is here in Germany.

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by J-C

Again one already covered, with all the temp light in Edinburgh, many roads are down to single lanes but you still get the knobend who drives all the way up to the roadworks and then indicates to join the rest of us. Always some eejit let's them in, if it was me they'd sit there all day in the wrong lane.

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I’m not really sure that’s a problem. You could argue those that cut in at 800 yards are cutting in to early.

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Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy

Yes.

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Thanks

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Originally Posted by KeithTheHibby

I’m not really sure that’s a problem. You could argue those that cut in at 800 yards are cutting in to early.

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And causing the queues in the unblocked lane to get longer. If everyone merged at the obstruction then it would be a simple one for one transition.

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Originally Posted by KeithTheHibby

I’m not really sure that’s a problem. You could argue those that cut in at 800 yards are cutting in to early.

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If cars gradually move in as they should, traffic isn't affected but if they leave it till last minute, the car has to almost stop top let them in because they're coming from a standstill position. It's the same at say the underpass heading to the airport or any other merging lane.

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Originally Posted by J-C

If cars gradually move in as they should, traffic isn't affected but if they leave it till last minute, the car has to almost stop top let them in because they're coming from a standstill position. It's the same at say the underpass heading to the airport or any other merging lane.

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Not in heavy traffic. As soon as cars start queuing then the best way to merge is a simple one for one at the point where the obstruction is. All cars will at some point have to move to the lane that isn't blocked, if they do that early then all that does is cause an even longer queue in the free lane and block the lane where the obstruction is.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Not in heavy traffic. As soon as cars start queuing then the best way to merge is a simple one for one at the point where the obstruction is. All cars will at some point have to move to the lane that isn't blocked, if they do that early then all that does is cause an even longer queue in the free lane and block the lane where the obstruction is.

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