All fair and well saying that but those clubs dont need a complete first team overhaul...
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Hearing sandaza has signed for "The Rangers Football Club".
That's forsyth I'm talking about, no idea on Maybury.
Fenlon saying post match yesterday that whilst he hoped to add more faces this week nothing was close, didn't sound like there were many irons in the fire.
Look at the lack of SPL signings - we are ahead of most. But the SPL has the further disadvantage that it starts well before English leagues which paying more will have players waiting to see if they get offers from there first before they then consider the SPL as a back up...not ideal but its the financial situation we live in.
Hopefully another couple like Williams will take account of other things like facilities / Edinburgh / our potential :rolleyes: where there is not huge financial differences
Just heard a whopper. Goodwillie to Hearts.............:applause:
What about Deeko is he not a free transfer right now he could partner Griffiths up front:top marks
GGTTH !!:flag:
There is something seriously wrong at hibs, petrie and co know that we are in desperate need of reinforcements yet as per usual **** all is being done about it.............free transfers and sub standard signings seem to be the norm for us.........hearts have been seriously weekened yet are still a far stronger team than us,.......surely it would make more buisness sense bringing in 2 or 3 big signings in order to sell more season tickets. If we finished second or third then we could make the money back
There is something seriously wrong at hibs, petrie and co know that we are in desperate need of reinforcements yet as per usual **** all is being done about it.............free transfers and sub standard signings seem to be the norm for us.........hearts have been seriously weekened yet are still a far stronger team than us,.......surely it would make more buisness sense bringing in 2 or 3 big signings in order to sell more season tickets. If we finished second or third then we could make the money back
Yes you are right but the time to have done it to max ST sales was a month ago, not when the season has already started. We are now left trying to arrange deals as the transfer window deadline approaches with players that have not been signed by anybody else!! Worrying times.
We did have players signed a month ago.
Our problem is we need a lot of them and getting the right quality of players to come to us or to Scotland just now is not easy.
Fenlon has said in the last few days that 3 or 4 real quality players have turned us down. We can only keep at it but what we don't need right now is just to sign anyone for the sake of having bodies in so he needs to get on with working through the list of people he does want.
We've had to be patient and persistent with the likes of Deegan, Williams, McPake and Griffiths whilst if you went with the approach on here these guys would have had to be passed by as we chased people who would have been able to sign there and then.
I'd love five new players today the same as anyone but there's no point maoning about it when the guys involved are aware but actually have to work with the reality of getting it done.
Any word on Maybury, Kerr and Sheridan yet?
Define a big signing. The one signing that many were demanding was that of James McPake. Motherwell couldn't afford to match our offer for Clancy, a good solid performer in the SPL. We have paid a fee for Deegan and he will be on a decent wage. I think we are well short of having the players we need at the club but to suggest that **** all is being done is absolute nonsense.
Befroe McPake signed a permanent deal the argument was that it would be sound business sense to snap him up in terms of season ticket sales. How many do you think renewed on the back of that? Think back to other 'marquee' signings. How many extra season tickets were sold when Stokes arrived? I am willing to bet you that it wasn't enough to cover his wages. Nothing in Scottish football ever makes sound business sense except to the lunatics who want somebody else to spend money for them.
It was clear to see at the end of last season that a complete restructure of the team was required. Not blaming Fenlon if he hasn't been backed and 'real quality players' are turning us down but it is showing a lack of ambition and shortsightedness that we have started the season with flops from last season in the starring 11 like Stephens, Stevenson, Wotherspoon & Sproule! As I say worrying times! I just hope that Pat is able to bring in players that are better than the above named and not just however we we can find last minute who will come to Hibs.
Fenlon has been left with all these guys still being under contract though, along with the likes of O'Hanlon and Galbraith.
He's shown last year they wouldn't all be playing for him if he had a choice.
He is trying to get better and it's taking some time, we've signed six decent players, which is more than most teams but the scale of what we are trying to do is an issue.
Yes, we are fed up of being told to be patient but a rebuild this size isn't going to take place in a matter of weeks.
At the time of the SPL vote most were saying they could accept a new reality and - what a load of tosh that was, one game in and it's clear that we want everything delivered today.
I am finding it frustrating like everyone else but agree with Andy74.
I tend to think that, prior to close season signings being made, there was no-one at the club that PF would consider as definitely 1st team quality.
I'd like to think that some of the youngsters will make the step up - I do think Booth has got what it takes and I was impressed with Caldwell against Huddersfield. I haven't seen Stanton or Scott Smith but hopefully they can progress too. From the Huddersfield game Handling looks a bit away from it at the moment IMO.
However, it's not ideal to throw loads of kids in at once - especially when the team's under pressure.
I am encouraged by the signings that Fenlon has made. Williams, Clancy, McPake, Cairney and Griffiths all look good quality so far and hopefully Deegan too. However, because of where we started from there is still a massive job to do and, IMO, at least three quality players are required for us to be talking top six.