KP - Hibs Voting Intentions

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Originally Posted by galahibee

Why not? Season tickets for all teams gonna sell or not sell regardless

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What about player contract situations? Do we play this seasons team on short term extensions for a fortnight then bump them for next seasons team? I don’t think your suggested solution is workable.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeard

God forbid that we ever get to the day whereby Hibs are run by fan power and polls like this one. What a load of Tom Kite.
I trust LD and the Board to vote in whichever way means the best balanced outcome for both Hibs and for the game.
I don't buy this theoretical parking of self-interest and votes being cast solely on what is best for the game overall. Fine in theory but it just doesn't work when it comes down to it. So an outcome that gives some balance for Hibs will be what LD votes for. She certainly will not be voting based on some on here threatening not to come back if her vote ends up in Hertz not going down. Wake up R Soles.

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I've only read a few posts but this sums it up for me as there are some bonkers attitudes out there. Really, you would give up your season ticket just because our vote didn't relegate Hearts? Radge.

I hope we adopt an adult attitude and don't vote with a look over our shoulders to Gorgie, but hope it's whatever Leeann and the rest of the board decide is best for us then the rest of Scottish football as we can't play in the league by ourselves.

We have to put aside our petty squabbles and get on with it. Hearts are in a mess due to their own mismanagement but I'd rather they were still around to beat.

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Originally Posted by James Stephen

I actually think her statement is reasonsble and pretty non-committal.

She also makes it clear that Budge has been lobbying her about voiding the season, something she has flat out refused to consider (maybe she gave Budge some tips...😉)

However i understand people's concerns, and the history of Hibs is littered with supposedly 'moral' decisions that have absolutely cost the club in the immoral, or amoral, world of football. Hibs are not a ruthless club, and that is not often a good thing in the dog eat dog world of football.

I also would like someone to explain to me the rationale and benefits of reconstruction. From memory, reconstruction that has happened in the past has been discussed ad nauseum, and planned a season in advance - and yet this version wasnt even on the horizon just a few weeks ago.

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Hibs decision will be based solely on which option is best for Hibs - as it should be. Nothing moral about that. Whether we like it or not, a decision that results in Hearts staying up will be to our benefit financially. If the situation was reversed Hearts would do the same - given the financial state they're in they'd hardly vote to get less money just in order to relegate Hibs.

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Originally Posted by Paisley Hibby

Hibs decision will be based solely on which option is best for Hibs - as it should be. Nothing moral about that. Whether we like it or not, a decision that results in Hearts staying up will be to our benefit financially. If the situation was reversed Hearts would do the same - given the financial state they're in they'd hardly vote to get less money just in order to relegate Hibs.

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I’ll remind you of that when hearts overspend next season to sign a player over us as per and finish ahead of us to qualify for Europe 👍 one derby at Easter road isn’t worth it.

Hearts would 100% vote to relegate Hibs.

The FTB episode was horrendous to be involved in, factor in the cheating Romanov era, then the word integrity, shouldn't be spouted by that mob.

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Hearts would 100% vote to relegate Hibs.

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Of course they would. They would have a Hibs are relegated fund raiser with paints and **** to get back the losses of a derby.

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Originally Posted by The Pointer

Hearts are in a mess due to their own mismanagement but I'd rather they were still around to beat.

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Which we couldn't do TWICE at home this season.

Send them down. If Hibs vote to keep them in it won’t make me hand back my ST. It’s a different scenario than the Oldco one. I wouldn’t have any trust in Gordon or Dempster again though. As for league reconstruction, I like the league the way it is and have no interest in a 16 team league with less games and more meaningless ones. Our crowds are good which suggests I’m not a lone voice.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...title-21843510

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Originally Posted by Greenbeard

God forbid that we ever get to the day whereby Hibs are run by fan power and polls like this one. What a load of Tom Kite.
I trust LD and the Board to vote in whichever way means the best balanced outcome for both Hibs and for the game.
I don't buy this theoretical parking of self-interest and votes being cast solely on what is best for the game overall. Fine in theory but it just doesn't work when it comes down to it. So an outcome that gives some balance for Hibs will be what LD votes for. She certainly will not be voting based on some on here threatening not to come back if her vote ends up in Hertz not going down. Wake up R Soles.

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Agree.
Some of the fan ideas over the years from the top of my head:

• Build a hotel in the car park. We’d make a fortune from away supporters staying there for European games
• pay Derek Riordan £20k per week to get him to stay
• Fill in the corners (even though we only manage to sell out the Current capacity twice a year max)
• tell Sky to take a run and jump
• Don’t sell away end tickets to the Old firm or Hearts.

Some really clued up members of our support there (not).

Also slightly disturbing to note that the “moral majority” of the pollsters seem to be quite happy that, so long as Hearts are relegated, the collateral damage of Partick Thistle’s situation is acceptable.

If Hibs do not support the proposals it would be the biggest PR own goal ever scored..........by a distance (like it or lump it, it's true).

Surely the club know this and won't risk ruining the current great relationship with the fans ?!

Lets hope the club see sense on this and do the right thing by the fans.

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Originally Posted by 90+2

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...title-21843510

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Embarrassing that we are seen as a no. Hope we don’t jeopardise the new SKY deal for no clear reason.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Embarrassing that we are seen as a no. Hope we don’t jeopardise the new SKY deal for no clear reason.


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We should have a statement out to the support for clarification regardless of what way we vote. I would love to see them justify keeping hearts in the league.

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

Hearts would 100% vote to relegate Hibs.

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99% of their fans would but not so sure about Budge .

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Originally Posted by 90+2

We should have a statement out to the support for clarification regardless of what way we vote. I would love to see them justify keeping hearts in the league.

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I still don’t believe we will do it. If we do it must be because we think it’s a good idea to complete the league in August/September and are happy to delay next season.
I’m not sure Sky would be keen to wait around until October. I’m not sure many clubs would make it to October.


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Originally Posted by erin go bragh

99% of their fans would but not so sure about Budge .

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Aye she would. She would come out with the almost fan owned and it’s the will of the fans.

With them putting the new stand up without the castle view, hiding the pitch from season ticket holders with the Police room.

Forgetting to order the seats, over running the build by years and there's plenty more, it wouldn't surprise me if she voted the wrong way and got them relegated.

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Originally Posted by 90+2

Aye she would. She would come out with the almost fan owned and it’s the will of the fans.

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Agree 100%

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

With them putting the new stand up without the castle view, hiding the pitch from season ticket holders with the Police room.

Forgetting to order the seats, over running the build by years and there's plenty more, it wouldn't surprise me if she voted the wrong way and got them relegated.

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Post of the day. Laughed out loud at that.

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

With them putting the new stand up without the castle view, hiding the pitch from season ticket holders with the Police room.

Forgetting to order the seats, over running the build by years and there's plenty more, it wouldn't surprise me if she voted the wrong way and got them relegated.

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

With them putting the new stand up without the castle view, hiding the pitch from season ticket holders with the Police room.

Forgetting to order the seats, over running the build by years and there's plenty more, it wouldn't surprise me if she voted the wrong way and got them relegated.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

I still don’t believe we will do it. If we do it must be because we think it’s a good idea to complete the league in August/September and are happy to delay next season.
I’m not sure Sky would be keen to wait around until October. I’m not sure many clubs would make it to October.


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If we do mate there must be a massive explanation/justification given to the support. I think we will wait until Aberdeen vote before deciding 😁

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

With them putting the new stand up without the castle view, hiding the pitch from season ticket holders with the Police room.

Forgetting to order the seats, over running the build by years and there's plenty more, it wouldn't surprise me if she voted the wrong way and got them relegated.

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😁😁

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Spiteful may be correct. There is a significant amount of bad blood in Scottish football that stems from the actions of Hearts and Rangers.
Hibs decision to look the other way then means they are not being given much leeway from fans now. You can call it spiteful if you like but it’s not without foundation.


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How did Hibs look the other way?

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Embarrassing that we are seen as a no. Hope we don’t jeopardise the new SKY deal for no clear reason.


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Embarrassing we still allow that paper to be linked on here never mind people actually believing anything in it.

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Originally Posted by 90+2

I’ll remind you of that when hearts overspend next season to sign a player over us as per and finish ahead of us to qualify for Europe 👍 one derby at Easter road isn’t worth it.

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Originally Posted by hibsboy69

If Hibs do not support the proposals it would be the biggest PR own goal ever scored..........by a distance (like it or lump it, it's true).

Surely the club know this and won't risk ruining the current great relationship with the fans ?!

Lets hope the club see sense on this and do the right thing by the fans.

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So basically we want rid of Hearts because folk are scared they will finish higher up the league than us, or because the fans want to see them suffer. If what Hibs do for the good of our club benefits Hearts it would be a PR disaster for the club would it .... utter pish.

If we relegate Hearts, that lets them claim they're being victimised.

Instead we relegate the worst team, and rub their noses in the fact that it's big spending Hearts who went down.

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Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

So basically we want rid of Hearts because folk are scared they will finish higher up the league than us, or because the fans want to see them suffer. If what Hibs do for the good of our club benefits Hearts it would be a PR disaster for the club would it .... utter pish.

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Again, why is it in our best interests to keep hearts in the league? Derby revenue? That’s it. There’s literally no other reason, one or possibly two derbies at Easter road? So let’s keep them up just for that regardless of them being the worst team in the league and regardless of them constantly overspending, sly digs at our club and manager and acting like pompous ********s since the beginning of time? It’s sod all to do with being scared of hearts either, it’s about gaining advantages over our city rival at a time our new owner has ambitions for us to be undoubtedly the best club in Edinburgh.

In life you meet all sorts of people, hard liners, pacifists, demonstrable types and liberalists etc, etc. Some people won't or cannot make judgements that may hurt or impair others so they try to pass themselves off as people who forgive those that have done wrong or they believe that people do in fact do no wrong. They often think they sit above the common man and have an intelligence that others don't. These people are dangerous!! Let HMFC reap what they sow and have done for years, ffs I can't believe we are even debating it. Never forget May 2012, surely that has to be the boot in the balls these liberal loonies need right now.

By the way, LD's words are holllow, she is playing the politics game. She wants the unwashed down just as much as most sensible Hibees do!