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It's a dreadful new manager bounce! Losing your first game to the side sat bottom of the table doesn't happen too often/ever! Hamilton away on Saturday has become massive for them, lose that and Stendal's honeymoon period will be well and truly over and the gunts will be questioning his every decision guaranteed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
As everyone knows, Hibs live rent free inside every one of their heads every day of the week. Most of them will see Hamilton on Saturday as an irrelevance, all they’ll be interested in is beating us on Boxing Day.
If we beat them, then it will be the beginning of the end for Herr Stendel.
Yep. I’m not confident at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
I would think losing to Hamilton would make them Extreme jittery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
It’ll be as tough a game as usual, only this time I think if we took the lead they would implode.
Hearts always raise their game against Celtic at Tynecastle. Did Levein not end Celtics unbeaten run? They'll raise it against us too that's a certainty. The real questions for them need answered against the likes of Hamilton this weekend
How many times have we actually opened the scoring at tynie? Only one i can remember recently was cummings in 2015. Think you would need to go back to Riordans penalty for the last time before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
I see Celtic fans complaining about getting into tynecastle last night. Usual shambles it seems. Not sure how hearts get away with it. Be the same on Boxing Day. At least it’s daylight!
How much did they spend on that pitch again? It was looking lush last night.
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We've scored the first goal at Tynecastle five times in the last twenty years. The two you've mentioned, the Brian Kerr game and in two draws (1-1 and 4-4).Quote:
Originally Posted by we are hibs
In the same period, Hearts have opened the scoring at Easter Road eleven times.
What got me was not only was it looking yellow and bare in huge swathes but how poorly it drained.Quote:
Originally Posted by McS****y
The rain only really started heavy half way through the second half but by the time they finished the whole thing had surface water on it. Maybe just a matter of it being half mud and the floodlights making it look worse than it was but boy did it look terrible.
I can't believe they're happy with that! They could have lost 5 or 6 goals last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
Without a word of a lie, there were points last night where my son and I laughed out loud at how bad they were.
If we beat them on the 26th we need a rousing rendition of “One Daniel Stendel”.
I don’t know if he’d recover from that with their fans.
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Originally Posted by Since452
Losing 2-0 to Celtic at home is no big deal to them it is usually more than that.
Hamilton is a dodgy one for them as they are both in the scrap at the bottom.
Hertz and their fans only interested in one game over this period, Boxing Day - beat Hibs and all is well.
We really need to be handing out a few doings to them on a regular basis, that puts them back in their boxes AND will flame the depression that will set in should we do so.
We need to take these games as seriously as they have done for the last 40 years.
Just noticed a gem from their FOH AGM;
"The question of how funds are spent was raised in questions in relation to how to motivate people to continue to pledge and engaging with people.
Ann mentioned having our own training centre."
Must be the first time they've ever admitted that they don't have one.
For the first 20 minutes they got stuck in about Celtic not allowing them to play.
Once Celtic got going they really exposed them defensively. He doesn't have the players to play that type of game and I would like to think with the pace of Boyle we could exploit them.
That pitch though is utter dug *****.
Is their pitch problem not due to staging a pop concert there, shortly after it had been laid?
"One Ann Budge" might be even betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
I think we have to get over ourselves and salute their fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilT
If they hadn't been so up their own jacksies, they would never have fallen for any of this.
There has to be something we can do to thank them.
Easy to be up for the Celtic game. The test for stendel is the Hamilton game. Can he motivate them and get it right tactically. Hamilton will be up for the battle,that's for sure. I know beating us means everything to them but this is in reality their biggest game over the holiday period. Lose and they have a real dogfight. Win and that might just ease the pressure. Not for the faint hearted.
Boxing Day will be a tough one for us, make no mistake.
Would rather avoid this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Can remember hearts fans singing stubbsy stubbsy at 2-0 up as the teams left the park for HT in February 2016. Look how that ended up..
Joel Sked of the EEN reckons Hearts will pick up because he kicks every ball on the sidelines. Whats that, 12 games without a win as manager? Need to do more than jump around on the sidelines
It's a pity that their problems are on the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Its got Stendels 1st win written all over itQuote:
Originally Posted by Baader
I think one of their players tried to pass to him during the second half last night. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
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Originally Posted by matty_f
That was the start of the problems, at the AGM I believe they said the current problem was to do with over seeding :confused: and lack of sunlight. £1million that cost, one million quid gone on a pitch that is no better than the old one they ripped up to put this one in :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
It's like they're actually trying to waste money. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
I still think the pitch fiasco is deliberate. They will do anything to bring teams down to their level. Did they not grow the grass extra long to play Celtic recently? A bowling green surface means they would have to try and play football which we all know isn't the Hearts way. It's like Budge spent a million quid in good faith then somebody told her a tattie field would actually gain more points after all.
The pitch situation is just another sign of incompetence. They spent a lot of (other people's) money redeveloping their pitch and just haven't looked after it properly. They hosted a vanity concert during peak growing time and whatever artificial lighting system they're using to compensate for the lack of sunlight, it isn't adequate. The bottom line is that they've pretty much wasted another £1million to get themselves a no better situation than they already had. Long may it continue.
They are certainly getting desperate. There is even a thread on KB saying they should go for Griffiths!! :faf:
Thought the hated him for calling an ex player a refugee?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barman Stanton
The fickle world of a football fan eh. I more found it hilarious any of them thinking Griffiths would go near them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Jeez, all that money spent trying, and failing, to create a castle view when it's a sun view they really needed all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
I'm pretty sure Mrs doctor Budge can reposition the sun and get it to stay out a bit longer.
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So does them getting beat 2-0 by Celtc as well mean they're on a par with Hibs?
I thought they already owned the sun, as they can control who is in the shadow, and who isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Only if the handicapper allows them a completed 20,000 seater stadium, their own training facilities, a grass pitch, 10 points and somehow finds a way to disregard all those millions headstart we keep hearing about.[emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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So... keep the sheep motivated by giving them another project they can throw their cash at. Vlad showed them how to fleece the 'simple' fans, and they've learned their lesson wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Sioux
Point scored but a point less. 1-1 in our corresponding fixture...Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
True, but they'll be using that kind of logic to re-assure themselves
I think we all do.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Away doon in Georgie at Tynecastle Park,Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
There's an area of pitch that is kept in the dark,
It's been damaged aplenty with hosting the arts,
The grass was destroyed by those publicity tarts
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Originally Posted by Iain G
Mmmm. Funny you should say that given the guy that owned them before Mrs Breath-of-fresh-air. That is exactly what Romanov was doing. It's the Modus of money laundering. Seen from that perspective "Mad" Vlad, doesn't look mad at all, he's just doing what he does. I have doubts that is what is going on at the moment and remain convinced it's sheer cack-handedness.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Tee-Hee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
Maybe Dr Football sabotaged it, it's all in the percentages for him. Having a decent surface at their gaff has never been popular.
Derby games are always tough, irrespective of who the Yams put out. Stendal will be getting trained up in Yamish mind games by Levein, so expect some creative German interpretations of the Yam classics. He'll also be in notice that Hibs games are all that matters to the average dumb Yam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baader
No doubt it’ll be a tough game but it’s winnable.
It’ll be about taking our chances.
Hopefully we don’t get sucked into a hoofing/kicking match but we need to keep our discipline.
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A canny believe all the ***** in the media today about how hearts are now on the straight and narrow after their display last night.
I must be missing something. After the first 20mins they were pish. Game could’ve easily finished 5 or 6 and probably should’ve
If that’s what their standards have lowered to then that’s PLEASING
Sssh. Let them blow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
We'll get a better idea on SaturdayQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Their players ran about a lot for 25 minutes but there was no quality evident and they never looked like scoring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Once Celtic scored Hearts went to pieces for the rest of the 1st half and were lucky not to be 4 down at the break after some bizarre plays.
I flaked out early in the 2nd half so can't comment on that :agree: although I believe young Mr Clare played a horrific pass near the end.
Standel still sorting the wheat from the chaff which is plentiful.
Can't see them being much of a team for the next month.
Hopefully Stendel makes it 13 without a win on Saturday
I'd give them Saturday as long he gets back to losing ways again on boxing DayQuote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Give them nowt!Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
That would be my preferred option!! But if I had to choose........Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe6-2
All I will say is doesn't matter how pish they are,
they will raise there game 1000%,we have to start the game at a high tempo which I'm sure we will,but as we all know the luck they have against us is unbelievable
There was me thinking Christmas was coming up .......... it has to be April Fool. On KB they’re discussing the chances of going after Leigh Griffiths. :faf::faf::faf:
The stars are aligning for us to make a tit of ourselves on Boxing Day. Only 6 wins there in 20 years should focus the minds on the task in hand. Regardless of their predicament, going there is never any easy game.
LG would rather retire than sign for them. In fact there is more chance of becoming a Mormon than signing for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Nah, we will pump them on Boxing Day.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Was that not Deeks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Think Leigh was caught singing the Skacel song on a grainy video in the Roseburn was he not?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbyfraelibby
I would take a rerun of the millennium derby tbfQuote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
I remember only about 700 hearts fans being in the ground for the final 7-8 minutes
Some more of that on boxing day would work for me👍
Whenever there’s a chance to kick them when they’re down we generally spurn it! There’s been plenty of examples over the past 20 years. Probably 4 occasions alone where Levein was on the brink and we could’ve delivered the Coup de grâce..
Are Mormons not allowed loads of wife's? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
Not far off it was the Ferry Boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by wallpaperman
Leigh Griffiths made his ill thought out chant in the Roseburn before a derby (I was present at the time)Quote:
Originally Posted by green with envy
It was maybe the Ferryboat for Deeks’ rendition.
If they really are talking about LG signing for them then they are more delusional than I thought. They hate him, he hates them. His current manager hates them. Yip, definitely a deal to be made because they are famous after all. Knobs
If they draw then we get the chance to put them bottom on Boxing day :flag:Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Here’s a wee gem on Kickback in a thread about that Jamie Walker, which shows the delusion levels of some are still off the charts. I’ve not pasted the full post, but this part is not taken out of context in any way.
Look at John McGinn. Not exactly what many people would call a "football player", but he's got himself a good move playing in the premier league and seemingly one of the first names for Scotland now. It pisses meoff because we all know how much ability Walker has. He'd piss all over McGinn if he had even half of his ambition or determination.
There you have it ladies and gentlemen, if Jamie Walker ran about a wee bit more and trained a bit harder, he’d be better than John McGinn. :wtf:
This is why they think they've got a glass curtain, a castle view and a £1m pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by wallpaperman
Romanov seriously dulled their brains and the good doctor is doing a fantastic job keeping his legacy going.
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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
The good Mrs Doctor understands the Pavlov's dog nature of their support; slag Hibs off at any given opportunity/make some pompous statement announcing the "biggest" something or other on the back of a disaster/always speak in terms of Hearts being some kind of World Football Behemoth albeit not quite there because of the press/sfa/injuries.
That's the younger generation, before them you had the Texaco Cup Jambos who insisted it was a "more prestigious tournament" than the Cup Winners Cup Then there was the Mercer Era Jambos who thought that football was "only a business" called themselves "customers" rather than fans and that Hearts were leaving Hibs behind to play in a European Super League. :rolleyes:
Delusion and denial are key-words, not for all their fans obviously but there's a well ingrained culture there that they just cannot see certain realities - usually the loudest ones who shout down any sign of common sense. Wollopers.
They won't get a win tomorrow, Hamilton have been in a relegation battle since they sent us down.
But they do have a £1m pitch. Even tho it resembles a ploughed field, it is still a £1m pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
It's a bit like £1m in cash which has been set alight and burnt, is still £1m but in the form of ashes.
Not to mention the Believers Era when we became 'irrelevant' because gazillionaire Romanov had started them towards domination of the game here and in Europe, and then 'killed us as a club' in 2012... just before they crashed the bus into a wall at 100mph.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Learning from experience isn't what got them where they are today.
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Originally Posted by Brummie_Hibs
They are Ancient but hardly Justified.
Ach, it's Christmas - Let Them Eat Ice Cream.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
I have been drinking heavily, but the only part of this eminently sensible post I take exception to is the pitch part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brummie_Hibs
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Starting to think this Stendel bloke is a bit of a donkey. Barnsley flying since he left and Hearts seem to have got worse.
The PBS pitch is a disgrace.This derby will be a coin toss of who gets lucky and we are overdue a turn against them.
Generally in recent times they have always come out smelling of roses in these derbies. That cant always happen.
I would like to wish all visiting Jambos a merry Christmas and I mean that from the BOTTOM on my heart😉
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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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I've been down after our results this week, but I'd like to take time to spare a thought for our neebs, and that thought is...
... Karma's a bitch!
https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...n-out-protest/
The knives are being sharpened, and (un)civil war has broken out :greengrin
I would really, really love it if we beat them on the 26th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
However, I will console myself with the fact that anything they get off us will only paper over the cracks, they have passed the point of no return.
It will be the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker calling the shots in a post apocalyptic PBS. Pleasing.
They’ll turn up as it’s there cup final. But losing to Hamilton away is a howling result. They’ve got worse since Levein left and worse again since the Nanny left. They are in real **** but there whole existence is about beating us. The 26th will be a hard game.
Car crash thread - pleasing :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
There are a few on Kickback questioning Stendel already. Pleasing
I've seen chat on Twitter where Hearts fans are saying Budge has messed up the football side of the their club, the implication being that she's got the business side sorted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
Do they even know what's happening at their club? She has pissed millions up the wall, literally millions of pounds that could have had them streets ahead of us, and she still needs millions more to finish what she's started and millions more to get her money back.
The business is an utter shambles, no wonder their football spent is failing as well.
:agree: As recent as the last time they hit the bottom of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
We've given this shower of Yam failures and their sacked manager 50% of their wins all season and 25% of their points ! Hibs need to be fired up, as you can guarantee the Yams will be. Hopefully, Jack has learned a lesson from last night and will put a bit of steel in midfield rather than pandering to the Allan Mallan show. Yams will kick anything that moves, dive all over the place and resort to their usual hoofball on their miniature allotment and we need to counter that. If we had a leader in the Hibs team, I'd be a bit more confident.
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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
Wow they’re not very grateful are they? I think a few Jambos are forgetting themselves... their role is blind loyalty and shovelling as much cash into the pockets of their masters as possible.
I've also heard from a hertz fan that since the ladies took charge of our respective Clubs they've both become "soft" with far too much emphasis on the non footballing activities such as the community "initiatives". Did he have a point?Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
We really need to get it right up they ****s on Thursday.
Click on this to cheer yourself up a wee bit
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We’ve had two disappointing losses in the last week or so, but they were against the top two in the league. We pumped the next team in the league 3-0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Their two losses were against teams who were bottom of the league. Both of them bad losses at that.
To be fair, there are quite a few on kickback who are well aware she has wasted a ton of money on both the infrastructure and the playing side, by way of her trust in Levein.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
They have turned quite viciously on Naismith now, partly I think as he seemed so desperate to turn out for Scotland to get to his 50th cap, and never seems quite so keen for Hearts. Also he doesn’t travel through to a Edinburgh to train every day, I didn’t know that, getting used as a stick against him. Three and a half more years of that and plenty ££££.
It’s imperative they don’t get positive results in either of their games before the break as if they are rock bottom at the break, the clamour for Annie to sign 3 or 4 players will be unstoppable and she will almost have to spend a lot of money doing it.
Plus Stendel will be desperate to get a couple of his coaches in at least, more money spent if they have to pay off Levein’s coaches and pay salaries to a bunch of new Stendel men.
Apparently Stendel away back to Germany until the derby. That'll be Levein and McPhee taking training for a few days (need to be afternoon though)
That thread is a hoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
The person who started it is adamant and is offering £100 charity bets to anyone who says it’s a bunch of crap (don’t think anyone has taken up his challenge), but there hasn’t been any proof offered yet.
It’s possibly not far fetched, and likely would have been agreed in the negotiations. They probably thought that they would have a couple of wins under their belts against St Johnstone and Hamilton before Christmas and the fans would send him back to Germany for a few days with cheers ringing in his ears. :faf:
If he’s got any sense he won’t come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
12k a week from a team he’d never heard of.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
He’ll be back. :cb