Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

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Originally Posted by jgl07

Simplistic tosh.

I would bet that points 1 and 2 could not be enforced as they would be in restraint of trade and any club so penalised could get it set aside.

UEFAs Financial Fair Play rules have been quietly watered down because of the threat of legal action. No team would be able to rebuild a stadium.

Apart from all else it would probably have put pretty well every major club in Scotland out of business by now. Hibs would have fell foul in the early 1990s and again around 2000. Celtic would have gone circa 1992, so would Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Aberdeen, Dundee (two or three times), Partick Thistle, Livingston, aside from the real offenders (Rangers and Hearts).

How many people would pay to see a League consisting of St Johnstone, Inverness and, possibly Dundee United?

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I agree that on the face of it it seems a bit idealistic and not entirely realistic but I think it is a start in the right direction.

There is debt and then there is debt (it is unusual having this conversation with people who aren't jambos or huns). The finances of the world would collapse if everyone had to pay off their mortgages tomorrow. Clubs should be allowed to borrow as long as they are able to pay back and they should be heavily sanctioned if they can not/ will not.

We do need to get firm rules and sanctions in place to act as a deterrent for financial jiggery-pokery. 15 point penalties don't even scratch the surface for clubs that can cheat for a generation before being caught up with - clubs who cheat themselves, their own fans, other clubs and their fans, Scottish football in general, sponsors, European opposition etc etc.

I think the bare minimum is that any team who has to enter administration/ faces liquidation has to start at the bottom and tough 5hit if they never recover. That will focus clubs minds on living within their means. And if we were to fall foul of it then so be it.

One of the most shameful facts is that so many clubs have failed to learn from their experience and ended up in trouble shortly afterwards.

Fulham have made a move for warburton.


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According to BBC, RFC have promised MW more cash for himself, and more cash for players, to try and ward off Fulham.

Clearly rattled.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

According to BBC, RFC have promised MW more cash for himself, and more cash for players, to try and ward off Fulham.

Clearly rattled.

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His agent has played a blinder here.

Despite Warburton's distancing himself from the Fulham job, he remains strong favourite at 10/11. Advocaat is second fav. at 5/2 and the biggest mover is Seedorf drifting in from 14/1 to 8/1 today.

Can't help thinking that, if Fulham are serious, the compensation that they can pay will be very tempting to Rangers.

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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith

His agent has played a blinder here.

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If Fulham are pursuing this then I'm sure they will have received some encouragement.

Rangers offering salary increase and increased transfer kitty to keep him!

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Originally Posted by Jim44

Despite Warburton's distancing himself from the Fulham job, he remains strong favourite at 10/11. Advocaat is second fav. at 5/2 and the biggest mover is Seedorf drifting in from 14/1 to 8/1 today.

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The interesting price in the market is Betfair who have him at 8/11. If that shortens with them over the next few hours, then he could well be offski.

Did he bring any back room or coaching staff with him to SEVCO?

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

According to BBC, RFC have promised MW more cash for himself, and more cash for players, to try and ward off Fulham.

Clearly rattled.

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be interesting to see where the money comes from, more loans? fulham are a much bigger attraction than the huns but i think warburton will stay... for now

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Originally Posted by Sergey

The interesting price in the market is Betfair who have him at 8/11. If that shortens with them over the next few hours, then he could well be offski.

Did he bring any back room or coaching staff with him to SEVCO?

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david weir, not sure who else

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Originally Posted by CraigHibee

david weir, not sure who else

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Frank McParland?

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Originally Posted by CraigHibee

david weir, not sure who else

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Frank McParland?

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Interesting.

Normally when a manager leaves (or is appointed) they come/leave with their lackeys en masse. Seemingly Martin O'Neil had them by the coach load. We remember the numpties that TB brought to the Hibs.

If SEVCO do indeed lose their complete (or core) back room staff - that's really going to swing the pendulum in our favour.

If it ain't Fulham this week - it could well be any number of clubs next week*

*Disclaimer: Stubbs could also be tempted away to greater things, so the coin does have two sides.

Conflicting news on FF. One post saying Daily Record reporting that a Fulham spokesman says they have no interest in Warburton whatsoever. Another (in last hour or so) BBC saying that Fulham have made an approach to Sevco and that Sevco have made an increased salary and transfer pot offer to Warburton to keep him. Probably all nonsense but it'll keep the natives restless and give them a taste of their own medicine. :faf:

I actually think if he did go, so would Tavernier and ****horn, although I'm not sure who's a loan deal and who's no, I think Ball might be one. Rangers are really ****ing it, their whole season could go right down the tubes if he jumps ship. I'm not convinced he will, but it would be extremely funny if he did.

Apparently he's just tweeted that he is going nowhere and is angry at incorrect stories from media outlets. Party pooper. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by Jim44

Apparently he's just tweeted that he is going nowhere and is angry at incorrect stories from media outlets. Party pooper. :greengrin

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That Twitter account doesn't have the wee tick that verifies it's warburton
There was also a tweet the other day from him saying he wants to win Rangers first trophy, I'd be surprised if that was really him.

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Originally Posted by Jim44

Apparently he's just tweeted that he is going nowhere and is angry at incorrect stories from media outlets. Party pooper. :greengrin

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Just as long as he did it respectfully! :wink:

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Originally Posted by hibs0666

If Fulham are pursuing this then I'm sure they will have received some encouragement.

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I agree. I think Warburton is itching for a move.

He's just trying to find a face-saving way out of Rangers... and Rangers could do with a bit of cash in compensation.

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Originally Posted by Jim44

Apparently he's just tweeted that he is going nowhere and is angry at incorrect stories from media outlets. Party pooper. :greengrin

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Does Warburton have previous at tweeting :confused:

Maybe not him.

Tweeted this and has a tick

Why are such stories are released without any sensible investigation? Rangers fans, Rangers as a club and indeed Fulham deserve better


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Tweeted this and has a tick

Why are such stories are released without any sensible investigation? Rangers fans, Rangers as a club and indeed Fulham deserve better


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I know they do, but one is stuck with MW and another seems to want him :greengrin

The Tweet, if real , doesn't actually deny anything.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Tweeted this and has a tick

Why are such stories are released without any sensible investigation? Rangers fans, Rangers as a club and indeed Fulham deserve better


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Sounds like he's not away then.

Would have been funny but I can't say I'm overly bothered, imp cracks are already starting to appear in his team.

On a side note, anyone else find it a bit cringey he's using Twitter? It's the same when I hear about Craig Levein using it, not sure why but just think it's a bit embarrassing for him

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

According to BBC, RFC have promised MW more cash for himself, and more cash for players, to try and ward off Fulham.

Clearly rattled.

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Maybe they will make a couple of bids for Scott Allan to try and show him they mean business.

I want him to stay because he looks and sounds like one of them.

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Originally Posted by hibs0666

If Fulham are pursuing this then I'm sure they will have received some encouragement.

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You could have said that about their previous three targets to replace Symons! :greengrin

I think Warburton would be mental to leave what is essentially a pretty cushy gig for the Fulham job. The English Championships is probably the hardest league in the world to be a manager.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

Sounds like he's not away then.

Would have been funny but I can't say I'm overly bothered, imp cracks are already starting to appear in his team.

On a side note, anyone else find it a bit cringey he's using Twitter? It's the same when I hear about Craig Levein using it, not sure why but just think it's a bit embarrassing for him

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Yes, a bit of a false alarm but, what the heck, it upsets the arrogance and over-confidence of the Weegie nutters.:greengrin

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Originally Posted by Future17

You could have said that about their previous three targets to replace Symons! :greengrin

I think Warburton would be mental to leave what is essentially a pretty cushy gig for the Fulham job. The English Championships is probably the hardest league in the world to be a manager.

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London or Glasgow....I think the bright lights might just draw him down south....

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Originally Posted by Future17

You could have said that about their previous three targets to replace Symons! :greengrin

I think Warburton would be mental to leave what is essentially a pretty cushy gig for the Fulham job. The English Championships is probably the hardest league in the world to be a manager.

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:agree: Being serious for a minute, the rangers job is probably the pinnacle of his career and he surely has to stay, if only to see who else they can get on the cheap from Wigan next transfer window.

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Originally Posted by Future17

You could have said that about their previous three targets to replace Symons! :greengrin

I think Warburton would be mental to leave what is essentially a pretty cushy gig for the Fulham job. The English Championships is probably the hardest league in the world to be a manager.

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I'm no so sure.

Neil Lennon won a stack of trophies and qualified out a group stage of the CL including beating Barcelona. He was available for donkeys and only got Bolton.

Warburton will do well to win any major trophies and will get nowhere near the CL. To me, Fulham is the best he's likely to get.

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Originally Posted by Future17

You could have said that about their previous three targets to replace Symons! :greengrin

I think Warburton would be mental to leave what is essentially a pretty cushy gig for the Fulham job. The English Championships is probably the hardest league in the world to be a manager.

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He's already proved he can hack it in the Championship.