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27-06-2021, 01:46 PM
MWHIBBIES

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Originally Posted by brog

I wasn't comparing their records against different teams, but Doidge missing 3 clear one on ones at Aberdeen I'm afraid lingers in my memory. Against that he scored an excellent one on one next time at same venue & of course a fine goal there this season. As i know you enjoy a debate however if you want to discuss goals against top teams I'll raise you Nisbet's goals at both the OF away & Celtc at home against Doidge vs The Rangers at home.😀

Okay. So he's scored twice there since but you still focus on missed chances?
27-06-2021, 01:57 PM
brog

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Originally Posted by Andy74

This season. Remains to be seen how a season 2 would go. Doidge’s first league season was better scoring wise than Nisbet’s first season.

Except it wasn't. They're very close but CD scored 12/25 starts =48% while KN scored 14/28 =50%. Both are excellent but CDs record this year, 7/29 =24% is a major regression unfortunately.
27-06-2021, 02:05 PM
brog

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Okay. So he's scored twice there since but you still focus on missed chances?

I'm trying to say it wasnt about the opposition. It's just I can't honestly remember another game where a Hibs player was clean through on goal on 3 separate occasions but failed to score. Once again I like Christian but even his best friend, who I know through horseracing, knows he's not a natural goalscorer.
27-06-2021, 02:07 PM
MWHIBBIES

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Originally Posted by brog

I'm trying to say it wasnt about the opposition. It's just I can't honestly remember another game where a Hibs player was clean through on goal on 3 separate occasions but failed to score. Once again I like Christian but even his best friend, who I know through horseracing, knows he's not a natural goalscorer.

Do unnatural goal scorers score 140 career goals?

You keep remembering his bad games, I'll enjoy the many more good ones
27-06-2021, 02:14 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by madhatter

Doidge and Nisbet are at a similar level to me

Who do you play for and don't you fancy signing for Hibs?
27-06-2021, 02:51 PM
brog

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Do unnatural goal scorers score 140 career goals?

You keep remembering his bad games, I'll enjoy the many more good ones

Please stop misquoting me. I'm not remembering his bad games, I mentioned 1 specific game and i also mentioned his 2 excellent goals against the same opposition.
27-06-2021, 03:46 PM
Key West

I'd like to see us signing somebody that could play off Doidge if Nisbet moves on and also an experienced centre back to help Porteous progress.
27-06-2021, 04:53 PM
SMAXXA

Folk are off their heeds to want to lose Porteous for Kerr. The latter is at the level of their career where at the same stage Porteous will be at a much higher level. Hibs fans are mental
27-06-2021, 05:01 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by SMAXXA

Hibs fans are mental

That's a given, Smaxxa.

It's just that some have stopped taking the medication!
27-06-2021, 05:03 PM
B.H.F.C

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Originally Posted by SMAXXA

Folk are off their heeds to want to lose Porteous for Kerr. The latter is at the level of their career where at the same stage Porteous will be at a much higher level. Hibs fans are mental

Thankfully we have wisdom like this to keep us all in check at least.

I’m not really saying we should sell Porteous and sign Kerr. But there’s two years between them. Where is Porteous going to be in two years that will put him miles ahead of where Kerr is now?
27-06-2021, 05:12 PM
Since452

I honestly don't get the hype about Kerr. Is it because he's a Hibs fan? I don't hear fans of any other club being desperate to sign him. I've never once watched him and thought wow, we should sign him.
27-06-2021, 05:18 PM
04Sauzee

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Originally Posted by Since452

I honestly don't get the hype about Kerr. Is it because he's a Hibs fan? I don't hear fans of any other club being desperate to sign him. I've never once watched him and thought wow, we should sign him.

I like Kerr but I like the 3 they have at the back, Kerr , Gordon and McCart . They look good as a back 3
27-06-2021, 05:24 PM
J-C

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Originally Posted by SMAXXA

Folk are off their heeds to want to lose Porteous for Kerr. The latter is at the level of their career where at the same stage Porteous will be at a much higher level. Hibs fans are mental

No ones wanting to lose Porteous for Kerr, the discussion is if Porteous is sold who could we get as a replacement.
27-06-2021, 05:30 PM
1875Sean

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Originally Posted by SMAXXA

Folk are off their heeds to want to lose Porteous for Kerr. The latter is at the level of their career where at the same stage Porteous will be at a much higher level. Hibs fans are mental

What makes you think Porto will be at a higher level? Not all footballers improve with age, look at Alex Harris
27-06-2021, 05:33 PM
Mr. Wonderful

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Originally Posted by 1875Sean

What makes you think Porto will be at a higher level? Not all footballers improve with age, look at Alex Harris

They improve with top level experience. Kerr has and had considerably more at RP's age
27-06-2021, 05:34 PM
1875Sean

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Originally Posted by Mr. Oagwibble

They improve with top level experience. Kerr has and had considerably more at RP's age

For me Porto hasn’t improved in the last 12-18 months with top level experience, also not much of an age gap, under 2 years between them so it’s like lien Kerr is much older
27-06-2021, 05:50 PM
Highwayman

Report seen that Wigan Athletic and Oxford United (both English League One) are tracking Jason Kerr.

Can Hibs compete with them.
27-06-2021, 06:05 PM
Orchard_Hibs

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Originally Posted by 1875Sean

What makes you think Porto will be at a higher level? Not all footballers improve with age, look at Alex Harris

Porto is already playing at a higher level.
27-06-2021, 06:07 PM
Mr. Wonderful

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Originally Posted by 1875Sean

For me Porto hasn’t improved in the last 12-18 months with top level experience, also not much of an age gap, under 2 years between them so it’s like lien Kerr is much older

He undoubtedly has. He makes some errors for sure but he's only now reached the level of first team experience he should've had by 20 if he'd remained fit and healthy. Its easy to forget he lost 2 seasons of development and was a huge cog in a very successful defensive unit last season.
27-06-2021, 06:20 PM
Stuart93

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Originally Posted by Highwayman

Report seen that Wigan Athletic and Oxford United (both English League One) are tracking Jason Kerr.

Can Hibs compete with them.

I’d like to think we could compete with Oxford Utd but unsure about Wigan, I’m sure they just got taken over
27-06-2021, 06:27 PM
Hibiza

Nisbet walked on to the Hampden pitch arguing with a team mate in the final . Just don't rate him. Soon away the better.
27-06-2021, 06:32 PM
Bridge hibs

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Originally Posted by Hibiza

Nisbet walked on to the Hampden pitch arguing with a team mate in the final . Just don't rate him. Soon away the better.

Missed that happening, who was he arguing with ?
27-06-2021, 06:33 PM
Smartie

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Originally Posted by Since452

I honestly don't get the hype about Kerr. Is it because he's a Hibs fan? I don't hear fans of any other club being desperate to sign him. I've never once watched him and thought wow, we should sign him.

We’ve seen him hold 2 trophies above his head in recent months, trophy wins that have been based on a mean defence that he’s at the heart of. I’ve spent quite a lot of time watching my own team run out of ideas how to break that defence down in recent months.

Porteous has stalled at Hibs and his performances in recent months were much poorer than his previous years. This coincided (!?!?!) with interest from down South and getting into the fringes of the national squad.

It’s a quaint idea that he’d want to stay and improve but I just don’t think he’s going to be interested. He’s got ideas above our station and we need to let him go.

When that stage is reached a conversation starts re realistic replacements. Kerr may or may not be one.

I suspect that Hibs made a “wait until the end of the season” agreement with Nisbet and Porteous, and we got inconsistent and indifferent performances from them both through the second half of the season. Nisbet’s obviously been busy attracting suitors at the Euros and I reckon Porteous will have had his agent working hard on getting him his move as soon as the season was finished (hence the strong rumours re moves to Turkey).

FWIW I think this will all suit all parties and especially Hibs. We’ve got ample time, and probably get reasonable/ good cash with which to replace a couple of guys who don’t want to be with us next season.

Porteous has great potential but needs to get it right between his ears if he’s ever to realise it.
27-06-2021, 06:36 PM
Just Alf

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Originally Posted by Smartie

We’ve seen him hold 2 trophies above his head in recent months, trophy wins that have been based on a mean defence that he’s at the heart of. I’ve spent quite a lot of time watching my own team run out of ideas how to break that defence down in recent months.

Porteous has stalled at Hibs and his performances in recent months were much poorer than his previous years. This coincided (!?!?!) with interest from down South and getting into the fringes of the national squad.

It’s a quaint idea that he’d want to stay and improve but I just don’t think he’s going to be interested. He’s got ideas above our station and we need to let him go.

When that stage is reached a conversation starts re realistic replacements. Kerr may or may not be one.

Couldn't have put it better myself :agree:
27-06-2021, 07:02 PM
hibbie02

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Originally Posted by Bridge hibs

Missed that happening, who was he arguing with ?

Didn’t see him arguing with anyone (not saying it didn’t happen) but he was looking well stroppy as he came onto the pitch. Looked like he didn’t want to be there. Pretty crap attitude in a cup final.

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27-06-2021, 07:06 PM
Peevemor

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Originally Posted by hibbie02

Didn’t see him arguing with anyone (not saying it didn’t happen) but he was looking well stroppy as he came onto the pitch. Looked like he didn’t want to be there. Pretty crap attitude in a cup final.

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He was definitely stroppy with his team mates a couple of times during the 2nd half - I commented on it at the time. I'm not looking to bash Nisbet though and maybe he had every right to be annoyed with them, it's just that it's been a while since I've seen Hibs players speaking to each other like that during a match.
27-06-2021, 07:39 PM
04Sauzee

Celtic look set to complete the signing of Mario Vuskovic in a £5million deal from Hajduk Split

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27-06-2021, 09:15 PM
ahibby

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Originally Posted by Peevemor

He was definitely stroppy with his team mates a couple of times during the 2nd half - I commented on it at the time. I'm not looking to bash Nisbet though and maybe he had every right to be annoyed with them, it's just that it's been a while since I've seen Hibs players speaking to each other like that during a match.

He seems to have the idea that everyone except himself should move to the ball rather than wait for it to arrive. I think that will be symptomatic of the reason he wont go very far, but we will see.
27-06-2021, 09:37 PM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by Peevemor

He was definitely stroppy with his team mates a couple of times during the 2nd half - I commented on it at the time. I'm not looking to bash Nisbet though and maybe he had every right to be annoyed with them, it's just that it's been a while since I've seen Hibs players speaking to each other like that during a match.

If he or anyone else wasn't frustrated and stroppy in that situation then something definitely wrong.
27-06-2021, 09:40 PM
ekhibee

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Originally Posted by Smartie

We’ve seen him hold 2 trophies above his head in recent months, trophy wins that have been based on a mean defence that he’s at the heart of. I’ve spent quite a lot of time watching my own team run out of ideas how to break that defence down in recent months.

Porteous has stalled at Hibs and his performances in recent months were much poorer than his previous years. This coincided (!?!?!) with interest from down South and getting into the fringes of the national squad.

It’s a quaint idea that he’d want to stay and improve but I just don’t think he’s going to be interested. He’s got ideas above our station and we need to let him go.

When that stage is reached a conversation starts re realistic replacements. Kerr may or may not be one.

I suspect that Hibs made a “wait until the end of the season” agreement with Nisbet and Porteous, and we got inconsistent and indifferent performances from them both through the second half of the season. Nisbet’s obviously been busy attracting suitors at the Euros and I reckon Porteous will have had his agent working hard on getting him his move as soon as the season was finished (hence the strong rumours re moves to Turkey).

FWIW I think this will all suit all parties and especially Hibs. We’ve got ample time, and probably get reasonable/ good cash with which to replace a couple of guys who don’t want to be with us next season.

Porteous has great potential but needs to get it right between his ears if he’s ever to realise it.

Well said.

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