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What a performance that was last night, a thoroughly deserved win. What a difference it’s made Doak coming through. If only we had a similar striker coming through. Hopefully Rory Wilson at Villa (former Rangers prodigy) is the next answer to a question we’ve long been asking.
Junior Hoilett won an international reprieve with Canada – and scored on his return against Suriname.
The Hibs star had missed his country’s last nine games after missing out on the Copa America squad and then failing to be called up for the three friendlies since.
But his individual form at Easter Road has been fairly good, even if the same can’t be said for the team.
And that saw Hoilett called up for the CONCACAF Nations League quarter-final against the Surinamese, who proved to be plucky opponents.
But the Hibees star popped up with a first leg winner after climbing off the bench for the final 12 minutes.
He is a very well respected member of the Canada squad and manager Jesse Marsch has been delighted that he instantly brought his personality back to the place after being away for so long.
There's also the goalkeeper question, Gordon can't go on forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Modfather
Vente came on as a sub for Suriname in that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tambo
Has Bursik got a Scottish granny? :wink::devil::shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by babahibs
Was reading about him the other day. Out of contract next summer and not signing a new deal as wants to play first team football. Villa threatening to freeze him out and make him train alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Modfather
Aye and apparently she's a decent keeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
If he’s as highly rated as we all hope, and it appears he might well be the real deal, hope he goes to someone like Dortmund with a pedigree for developing elite talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
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Originally Posted by The Modfather
Hopefully it's Bowie!
Miller starts but Boyle on the bench for Australia for tonight’s game
Hopefully this is the last international break for a good while? Sure, Hibs have been c**p but the horribly stop-start nature of the season is doing nothing to help.
I don't get the point of the Nations League, plus having Boyle and Miller flying around the world so regularly isn't great. Bowie getting crocked on Scotland duty also still rankles.
Can't we just go back to the odd international friendly along with the qualifying groups for the WC and Euros?
Was flicking through YouTube shorts and one of these shorts said no international break till March.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
No wonder his form has been absolutely dreadful. Watch him come off the bench and score thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
My understanding is that if Georgia take any points off the Czechs or Estonia take anything off Slovakia we are pot 2. Georgia more than capable of taking points off the Czechs. If they win tonight they finish top of thier group and go up to league A. Fingers firmly crossedQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by He's here!
The nations league is ‘supposed’ to replace friendlies for the most part, giving teams almost constant competitive matches, with the only friendlies being in the run up to major tournaments to allow national teams to get used to playing with one another.
What that doesn’t factor in, is when do you give fringe or up and coming players a chance, when you’re always playing competitive matches that are either qualifiers for major tournaments or nations league relegation/promotion matches
Half time 1-0 Oz courtesy of a goal in 38 seconds by Yengi.
Miller very much involved in general play and looking assured.
With the injuries he has probably been out of the game for 5 years. Could potentially have another 3 years in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by babahibs
Miller having a great game for Oz. Was decent in their last game too, right wing back in a back 5.
Definitely his best (only) position.
Hope Gray tries a back 5 in Dundee.
Wales 0 - 1 Iceland
Victor Palsson playing for Iceland
BBCi Player S4C
Looks like our pot 2 hopes rest on Estonia as the Czechs are already 2 up on Georgia after 20 mins :rolleyes:
Georgians clearly still annoyed about all that rain at Hampden
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Wales 2 v 1 Iceland
Cullen 2
What's confirmed?
Qualified for UNL finals: Croatia, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain
Relegation from League A to League B: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Israel, Poland, Switzerland
League A/B playoffs: Belgium, Hungary, Scotland, Serbia (A); Austria, Greece (B)
Promotion from League B to League A: England, Norway
League B/C playoffs: Armenia, Republic of Ireland, Slovenia (B); Bulgaria, Slovakia (C)
Relegation from League B to League C: Finland, Kazakhstan, Montenegro
Promotion from League C to League B: Northern Ireland, North Macedonia, Sweden
Possible relegation from League C to D: Azerbaijan, Luxembourg
Relegation from League C to D: Lithuania
Miller will be all over the shop from the International break this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pytheas
The following weekend - maybe.
FWIW I think he’s a good WB in a back 5.
Czechia winning 2-1
Slovakia still drawing 0-0... 🤞 we're just over 20 mins from pot 2 for WC Qualifiers. Please hold on Estonia
Is that definite a draw is enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
**** just jinxed us! Slovakia goalQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
Tempted fate unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
Would have been jim aye. That game or czechia gameQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Ok taQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
Georgia have one back
montenegro beating Turkey 3-1 :hilarious
what on earth has happened to Iceland in recent years
spanked 4-1 by wales
Are we not actually better in pot 3. Can't be bothered checking the teams but sure pot 3 is strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
Wouldn’t have thought soQuote:
Originally Posted by DIXIHIBS
I had a Quick Look and probably not. Not a great deal in it though. Getting out 1 would have been a game changer.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIXIHIBS
The size of their country you would suspect. That was a once-in-a-millennium team they had.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
So it will be one of Ukraine, Turkey, Austria or Greece.
Slovakia and Czech both won, so I think that means pot 3 for Scotland in the WC draw.
Albania 1 Ukraine 2
Czech Republic 2 Georgia 1
Slovakia 1 Estonia 0
Sweden 6 Azerbaijan 0
Malta 0 Andorra 0
Bosnia 1 Netherlands 1
Hungary 1 Germany 1,,,,,,,,, well worth cashing out before Hungary equalised on 90+9 :)
Montenegro 3 Turkey 1
Wales 4 Iceland 1
Wales automatically promoted to the A league
None are particularly easy, however neither of them games would be harder than the 3 we just took 7 points from.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Not sure who my preference is really.
Greece took England to joint points while the other 3 came second best to teams I feel we are at least equal to. Turkey give me the fear slightly though.
I would probably close Ukraine.
What if we win the play off in March ?Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
I know f all about this so apologies
Hungary 1 - 1 Germany … late penalty for Hungary and by the letter of the law it was though thought it was harsh… Handball rule is just daft now .
Groups are drawn in a few weeks so it would be irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
I did however just read that some World Cup qualifier groups will have winners of ties rather than set teams due to nations leave fixtures. I couldn’t my head around it though.
“ But wait ... Depending on how many teams need to play promotion and relegation playoffs, FIFA may have to juggle the pots slightly. For instance, if there are too many teams in Pot 3 who need to have March free, then a swap with Pot 2 or 4 might be needed. That's probably an issue for another day...
One more complication? As the UNL quarterfinals don't take place until March, eight of the 12 World Cup groups won't know their full lineup until then. Four of the groups with four teams will get "winners of quarterfinal tie," as they must be free for March and June. Four others get "losers of quarterfinal tie." Only four groups will be complete as of Dec. 13.”
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/42364120/uefa-nations-league-whats-stake-2026-world-cup-qualifying-impact
Article is a few days old so doesn’t factor in tonight’s results.
If we win that game we retain our place in Euro Nations group A, lose and we are relegated to group BQuote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
1st. AustriaQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
2nd. Turkey
3rd. Ukraine
4th. Greece
will do me
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Originally Posted by Paul1642
who thinks up all this nonsense :greengrin
Does anyone? I had 5 live on in the car last night and they said Israel had been relegated from the Nations League top tier despite beating Belgium. I thought Scotland were in the top tier, yet I don't recall them playing either of those teams?!Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Different sections.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
I'm more concerned where we will be in March, that's far more important imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
The nonsense part is anyone taking the time to figure it out and make sense of it. 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Mexico vs Honduras was a great game today. Some nice skill on display and a bit of argy bargy in extra time. What’s not to like?
We have 2 RB's at the club who cannot defend but still play 4 at the back, need to go to a back 3 to allow them to play to their strengths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pytheas
Really could do with a wall chart to get my head around all this.
You're right . I was talking p!sh.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Decent breakdown here. We're a 4 team group for WC QualifiersQuote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
https://x.com/scotlandscoeff1/status/1859201212416962562?s=19
We're extremely unfortunate to end up Pot 3 looking at those list of teams. Groups of 4 and 2nd place only gets a playoff.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
Aye it's a killer imo. Best chance might again be via the Nations LeagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobby's Cinema
I thought I read somewhere that the 4 best performing teams from Nations League that haven't auto qualified for WC join the euro play offs in March 26Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Yes, you are correct. I'll delete my post as factually incorrect. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
From the BBC:
Does Nations League affect World Cup qualifying?
Four teams will qualify for a play-off to reach the World Cup via the Nations League.
They are the four best-ranked group winners who do not go on to finish in the top two of their World Cup qualifying group next year.
With teams in the top Nations League division highly likely to qualify for the World Cup through European qualifying - and many teams in the second tier too - it gives an extra incentive for teams across Leagues B and C.
By finishing top of Group B2, England are extremely likely to have a World Cup play-off spot banked, with the same situation facing Group B4 winners Wales.
Northern Ireland top C3, which gives them at least a chance, but Scotland are not in the running to get a play-off spot through the Nations League.
The four teams who get into the play-offs via the Nations League will be put in with the 12 teams who finish second in their World Cup qualifying groups - with four spots for 2026 up for grabs.
Seedings for the World Cup qualifying groups will largely be decided by Fifa world rankings - and not Nations League finishes.
The exception is that the top seeds will be drawn out of the teams who finish in the top two of each League A group - plus the four top countries by world rankings.
England's world ranking of fourth, third in Europe, means they are highly likely to be top seeds despite not having been in League A.
So to summarise, we might be better of with relegation from League A? Win our B league then go in to a play off?
I have a nagging suspicion that UEFA decide whether to use rankings or Nations League placements for World Cup seeding entirely by whether sufficient numbers of "big" teams are in League A or not.
Czech Republic, Ukraine, England, Greece, Haaland (Norway), Sweden in League B or below? Scotland, Hungary, Bosnia in League A? Yeah let's do world rankings this year.
Pretty sure League A teams get put into some of the lower playoffs if enough teams qualify automatically, so we'd still be virtually guaranteed one.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
I can’t quite understand how we’ve ended up there to be honest. How does participating in Euro 2024 (albeit poorly) and being in nations league pot A (coming 3rd with the most points out of any 3rd placed team) end up with us being in a pot with the likes of Montenegro, Finland and Iceland whilst teams that didn’t make it to the euros and participated in lower levels of the Nations league than us slot in to pot 2? 🤷🏻*♂️Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby's Cinema
I’d certainly say that we are the pot 3 team that everybody will want to avoid and there are still favourable draws to be had with a bit of luck but it’s a big blow unfortunately. The fact that we were 1 Portugal goal away from pot A is pretty frustrating.
Greece v Scotland in the Nations League play-off.
Best draw available from a rankings perspective. All were comfortably ranked above us but Greece the closest to us in 42nd
Is that away and home ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Away 1st leg then home 2nd leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge hibs
Hopefully the home game on the Sunday has an afternoon or 5pm ko timeQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Should be an interesting challenge to see where Scotland are at against a team we've not played much. Greece were good in beating England at Wembley - something we've not done for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster
Also not that much pressure on it. Personally I'm not fussed about staying in Group A of the Nations League.
Yes that would be goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Blaster
Greece were very poor in home game v England Think they are improving but would fancy usQuote:
Originally Posted by Musselbound
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
What does this mean? I just read the BBC story and apart from possibly being vaguely beneficial to the next Euros qualification draw it doesn't make clear why it matters. I'd wager the majority of fans who go to this game would struggle to explain its relevance.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
This Scottish-Greek household is not best pleased.
How it works in to the qualification path for the World Cup becomes a bit on the complicated but the Nations League has been a massive improvement on meaningless friendlies. Hampden was sold out for all three group games and will be sold out for the Greece game.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
This tie decides whether we stay in the top section or are relegated to the second section. If we’d finished second in our section we’d have been top seeds for the World Cup draw so the games come with a lot of importance.
Queens Park v Falkirk is a good watch. Both teams wouldn’t be out of place in the Premiership and Falkirk in particular are decent. They pass it around quickly, press high up the pitch and are very comfortable on the ball. McGlynn has got them playing with confidence and I wouldn’t fancy us drawing them in the cup.
Watching QP v Falkirk, quite enjoyable and impressed wi Falkirk, Dylan Tait playing well and the winger Miller looks a prospect
Very one sided game, Falkirk have totally dominated from the off, should be about 5 up at ht.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadesLongThrow
I think Queens Park have looked poor. Even we took five off them so they must be poor!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadesLongThrow
Their goalie looks useful though (I know he’s had to be!)Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Porto scores for Watford.
Miller is 27 in a few weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wull
Seen him play England in the Victory Shield at Starks Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
He was the best player on the park, surprised at the low level he’s played at.
Just goes to show how difficult it is to properly make.
Glad to see he’s showing up well at Falkirk and hopefully he makes an impact in the Prem next season.
Falkirk remind me of us in the Championship under Stubbs. Lovely football but not scoring as many goals as their overall play deserves.
McGlynn and Smudger have done an incredible job there.
Nice finish for Plymouth equaliser.
Inverness Caledonian Thistle's match against Queen of the South has been called off after the Highland club made the 245-mile trip south to Dumfries.
The League 1 game has been postponed following a pitch inspection.
The Inverness team travelled down for the match on Friday.
Queen of the South said: "The pitch was playable this morning but after heavy rain and frozen temperatures under the pitch affecting drainage the pitch is now water logged."
Motherwell have asked their fans not to travel up to Dingwall
Airdrieonians P-P Livingston
Hamilton Academical P-P Raith Rovers
Morton P-P Partick Thistle
Alloa Athletic P-P Dumbarton
Cove Rangers P-P Stenhousemuir
Kelty Hearts P-P Arbroath
Queen of the South P-P Inverness CT
Bonnyrigg Rose P-P Stirling Albion
Elgin City P-P Clyde
Forfar Athletic P-P Peterhead
Spartans P-P Stranraer
Coventry v Sheffield United has been a cracking game. Blades 2-1 up but a man down. Basette being a horrible piece of work and fully expecting someone to go through him second half.
Rangers v Dundee Utd pushed back to 15:45 due to late arrival of the Utd team.
St. Johnstone v Killie KO delayed as well 3.15 now.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
St.Mirren v Aberdeen has been put back to 4.00.
6 games in the Premiership today, all with different kick off times now. Pretty sure that's never happened before.
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Penalty the rangersQuote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
FT Shrewsbury 3 Birmingham 2
All four 3PM kick offs in the SPFL have been delayed it would seem.
Marcondes scores for Norwich
Marcondes scores for Norwich
Marcondes gets his first Norwich goal
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Can't believe Marcondes is playing at that level. Must have had a really good pre-season.
He’s 29 years old and has played a fair chunk of his career at that level. It was his spell with us that was a step down and I think his failure to stand out here was probably more reflective of our recent troubles rather than his own ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation