They used to, first thing Gordon Brown did when he became Chancellor was to make the BoE Independent from Government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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They used to, first thing Gordon Brown did when he became Chancellor was to make the BoE Independent from Government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
My bad, I read it as inflation. Oops it was a long day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
All this talk of interest rates compared to years ago is interesting, but only part of the issue. Yes, my first flat was bought with a mortgage with an interest rate of 15%, but the house prices were much lower, and it was only 3 or 4 times my salary. So while the interest rates were v high, it was still relatively affordable. That's not the case these days. IMO "mortgages would have been more expensive" is a simplistic response to a much more complicated issue.
Correct. The percentage of our wages spent on housing has risen.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
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Add in minimal council houses and it's the reason kids on average leave home at 25 now. Rose from 22 in just over a decade. I read by the end of the decade, over 50% of 25-34yos will be living with parents. Hate to be young nowQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
This Tory party should be renamed the Bankers Support Party.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl2ZsDlW...jpg&name=large
Didn't know where to post this, could rightly apply to the Labour Party thread too (David Lammy not coming out this looking good). Posted here as Tories are the highest earners.
If interested you can search to see how much each MP declared as additional earnings (and gifts).
It's not the most user friendly website I've looked at, jumps about a bit imo.
https://news.sky.com/westminsteraccounts
Dougas Ross being paid by a foreign nation raises a few questionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
What's that all about then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
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The vast majority of David Lammy's outside earnings are from him being paid for his weekly talk radio show on LBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
On that show he's dealt civilly but firmly with callers telling him he can't call himself English because he is black. He has also used it as a vehicle to absolutely tear into Johnson, Truss and Sunak for their dishonesty, lack of honour and general fecklessness.
He won't be able to keep the job if he ends up at the Cabinet table but for the meantime I'm extremely comfortable with him doing it.
It's not the vast majority of cash earnings that jumped out at me. It's the 59 different sources. Might be small amounts in the scale of things alonside his payment from LBC, but how does he justify taking £3k here and there from the likes of Google, Facebook, M&S, etc. If he was my MP and I'm looking at that as I contact him to ask for support with my own financial concerns, I'd be asking does he fully focus on his main job of representing my needs. Thinks ths is for another thread btw. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Appears he have received a £7,850 “gift” from Qatar’s Ministry for Foreign Affairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
It'll be one of those nightgoon things they gave Messi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
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A CONSERVATIVE peer who advised the Government during the coronavirus pandemic helped a company secure PPE contracts worth £50 million after he was introduced to the firm by a fellow Tory peer.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/23...d-fellow-tory/
https://t.co/kZhNc8H3Jd
We need to get far away from this criminally corrupt Tory Government.
"No tricks, no ambiguity".
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...ushpmg00000004
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Downing Street has been accused of “quietly editing” one of Rishi Sunak’s five new promises to voters.
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/01/09/c...-are-no-shows/Quote:
A third of Conservative peers in the House of Lords have not spoken in the chamber in months – despite the party demanding minimum service levels for public servants who plan to go on strike.
Businesses will be decimated as the energy support goes
https://archive.ph/pcbVn
I used to love these spot the difference puzzles when I was young ...
Virgin Orbit tweet June 2022:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmG5dHCX...pg&name=medium
Grant Shapps tweet yesterday:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmG5juGX...pg&name=medium
https://www.joe.co.uk/news/rishi-sun...l-visit-373550
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Rishi Sunak travelled to Leeds by jet plane for hospital visit
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Originally Posted by grunt
It's been pointed out to me that's what Stalin used to do. Every time he had people of any significance around him executed he had them taken out of photos so photos could be reused.
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Slippery Shapps (if that's the name he is still using) Having a busy day fibbing with authority today?
https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/...Rss93c0Zg&s=08
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Did he change his name? Why would the interviewer not correct him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...keter-while-mpQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
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https://twitter.com/savanQadir/statu...CqIJwn9cA&s=19
Tactics devised in a 1920's German prison cell.
Coupled with the adage "there's one born every minute" = poison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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Absolute prick. Teachers are striking because their wages have been slaughtered and they are being asked to take another wage cut.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsJ...26294827495425
Jonathan Gullis says striking teachers are "Commies and Bolsheviks" deliberately "making sure that kids suffer."
Who is thick enough to fall for that utter tripe. Surely even working Tories must understand that this is simply propaganda with not a shred of truth. The saddest thing is I checked just to be sure he was a Tory as you can never be sure these days. It always interests me that they use Russian references as he will likely have Putin to thank in part for his election win. What does Baron mean in this context. It is of course the lowest peerage and what the Tory MPs view themselves while doffing their caps to those above them and standing on the shoulders of those that make wealth. They are the lowest form of life imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
When you think they couldn't get lower. Conservative mp Andrew brigden invokes the holocaust whilst talking about vaccines. To be fair tory mp Simon Clarke calls it disgraceful
https://mobile.twitter.com/SimonClar...22294955802625
WowQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Since losing out on his case with a property dispute with his family he's probably struggling. What better way to earn a buck for a lying conniver than to attempt an anti vax grift. Plenty platforms love these toads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Parody Rishi on Andrew Brigden yesterday, before his own tweet today. Shouldn't laugh, but sometimes you just have to, that's how ridculous it has become.
https://twitter.com/Parody_PM/status...C9need8-EsAAAA
Pippa Crerar
@PippaCrerar
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Chief Whip SImon Hart said: “Andrew Bridgen has crossed a line, causing great offence in the process... Misinformation about the vaccine causes harm and costs lives. I am therefore removing the whip from Andrew Bridgen with immediate effect, pending a formal investigation
A metaphor for the current Tory party? We know we stole it from you, but you're not getting it back. Finders keepers.
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1613197281796169729?t=5CszH33q0Ce1qgPmf3vIag&s=19
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
She was on the @TheNewsAgents podcast. Her voice really grates. She managed to hold (IMO) two completely contradictory views on BBC impartiality in relation to Gary Lineker and Robbie Gibb.
Nasty Party being nasty and playing to it's inward looking support base. Whodathunkit.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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PM in Edinburgh tonight to meet with the FM. MSM making reference to the GRA legislation and energy and health crisis.
Tories are still lying ...
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FM now meeting her 5th Tory PM. Strong and stable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
Partygate #435
https://t.co/Y20mn3B1sE
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Johnson aides ‘had sex’ at No 10 lockdown party | News | The Times
Thank you Tories.
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/imf...ok-2023-01-12/
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Originally Posted by The IMF
Thank you Tories.
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/hap...s-yet-to-come/
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What should happen instead is that we finally start to see ourselves as we really are: ageing, cold, poor, badly governed and appallingly led by a selfish and uncaring, divisive elite, pursuing damaging fantasy policies that have brought us to this pass, and yet still with delusions of grandeur.
Welcome to 2023. Have a happy new year.
So much more social distancing 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
SickeningQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
They can't stop doing soQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
https://twitter.com/carolvorders/sta...R32-_oefQ&s=08
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I see Suella Braverman has outdone herself again by refusing to acknowledge her language around refugees is poison. It was put to her by a holocaust survivor.
I despair when people in Scotland think we’re better off being a part of the UK when things like this happen.
The Scottish cultural equivalent to the Tory Party is the worst of those who support The Rangers FC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
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They're all on the independence thread pretending to be swing voters. 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
I never realised that there were so many swingers in the Hibs support. Mind you, some are swingers who never post about hibs. 😉Quote:
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/210463...gn=sharebarweb
Chancellor not paying his taxes. That’s what the UK has become.
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I nearly said the poor man had his stables to heat and think of the horses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Then I remembered the tax payer was also paying to heat his stables.
Epitome of the current shameless brass necked culture that is endemic throughout the Nasty Party and he is rarely clever enough not to get caught.
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Doesn’t matter if they are caught. There are no consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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They make the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The rules are designed for their advantage.
They take advantage of the rules.
When has the Tory Party been different?
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You missed they are laughing at us, especially tragic when you consider all the newly impoverished who voted for this nest of vipers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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...and 30 new billionaires in 2022...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...rnment-3989137
Busy day for Alistair Jack. Looks like his company trousered £2m from the govt.
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I'm not getting the controversy over this, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Think the company hasn’t filed their accounts in a timely manner and is under investigation.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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The accounts are less than 3 weeks overdue. Companies House don't mount "investigations" into companies whose accounts are that overdue. They fine them and, ultimately, strike them off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Jack and his family, according to the last Confirmation Statement, have less than 1% of the shares. He isn't on the Board.
It was a loan. There has been no suggestion that the loan hasn't been, or won't be, repaid.
There are many things to decry the Tories about. IMO I can't see this as being one of them.
Does this fall into the 'desperate' category when trying to score political points?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Possibly, but yours definitely does! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by James310
https://thecritic.co.uk/clear-them-all-out/Quote:
Now we learn from the Sunday Times about an arrangement where a distant cousin of Johnson’s, a rich Canadian named Sam Blyth, guaranteed the cash-strapped prime minister an £800,000 line of credit to help fund his wallpaper habit.
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Should a prime minister be allowed to accept a very large gift from a rich foreign person and keep it a secret? This does not feel like one of the trickier propriety and ethics questions. And yet, somehow, it turns out that it was.
In what way? It's publicly available information.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
Because it's a non story.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
My post?Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
No, the story about Alistair Jack.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Ah ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
In that case, I agree with Radge :greengrin
:smug:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I've bookmarked that!
Is it because so many arguments (Scottish Independence, Brexit, Westminster Politics in general) are now blighted by straw man arguments, irrelevance, triviality, mudslinging and utter bollocks that the Tories are more than ever able to hide in plain sight for the genuinely deplorable things that they do?
Subjects I once found engaging and interesting I'm finding more and more to be a chore to follow.
DesperateQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I'll take anything I can get!Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
:hilarious
Not far off Johnsons strategy of making so many gaffs people don't know which one to concentrate on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
There is so much noise and so many in public office acting in bad faith that switching off for some is guaranteed.
https://twitter.com/Deadferrets/stat...9FUI1Ll_g&s=09
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****ing Tories.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...droidApp_Other
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Under a further change to the bill, video footage that shows people crossing the Channel in small boats in a “positive light” will be added to a list of illegal content that all tech platforms must proactively prevent from reaching users.
Donelan said posting positive videos of crossings could be aiding and abetting immigration offences. Natalie Elphicke, the Conservative MP for Dover, had originally tabled an amendment proposing the change.
****ing Tories #2
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/01/12/...ing-verdict-ukQuote:
Human Rights Watch investigates and reports on abuses happening in all corners of the world. We are roughly 550 plus people of 70-plus nationalities who are country experts, lawyers, journalists, and others who work to protect the most at risk, from vulnerable minorities and civilians in wartime, to refugees and children in need. We direct our advocacy towards governments, armed groups and businesses, pushing them to change or enforce their laws, policies and practices. To ensure our independence, we refuse government funding and carefully review all donations to ensure that they are consistent with our policies, mission, and values. We partner with organizations large and small across the globe to protect embattled activists and to help hold abusers to account and bring justice to victims.
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(London) – The United Kingdom government repeatedly sought to damage and undermine human rights protections in 2022, Human Rights Watch said today in its World Report 2023.
“In 2022, we saw the most significant assault on human rights protections in the UK in decades,” said Yasmine Ahmed, UK director at Human Rights Watch. “From your right to protest to your ability to hold institutions to account, fundamental and hard-won rights are being systematically dismantled.”
https://twitter.com/marinapurkiss/st...WVYUBCBE0kVFog
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This is just levelling up by building back better, or one of those, no? Seems like intelligent business people running rings around the Anti-Growth Coalition. Stuff like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Fraser Nelson is a tory prat but he exposes Hunt here for trying to claim its his doing that inflation is about to fall
https://mobile.twitter.com/FraserNel...21982250221569
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...box=1674050765
Strikes have now cost more than it would have cost to settle the dispute.
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I'm sure the tories were more than aware that this would ultimately be the case and will use it to double down on anti-union coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/stat...HaIclWcdysCc2g
Levelling up funds all going to already wealthy areas.
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Is Granton a wealthy area?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The Richmond one is outrageous hardly the poorest part of the country, wonder who the MP is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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https://bylinetimes.com/2023/01/19/l...nce-in-brexit/
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Landmark Ruling in Strasbourg as MPs Challenge UK Government over Failure to Investigate Russian Interference in Brexit
You never miss an opportunity to defend the Tories.[emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
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You said all the money was going to wealthy areas, just pointing out that's wrong. Facts matter don't they? You don't want to be spreading misinformation? You were simply just wrong, that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Elsewhere in Scotland:
A multi-storey car park in Dundee has been granted £14m for its redevelopment into a sustainable transport hub.
Nearly £20m will be spent to help demolish and reroute the A78 dual carriageway to reconnect and transform Greenock town centre.
The regeneration of Riverside Park in Fife and improved access to the River Leven will be accelerated with the award of more than £19.4m
In Cumbernauld, more than £9m will support the demolition and regeneration of two shopping centres and a vacant office block
Nearly £11.3m of funding will help free up land at a former coal-fired power station in East Lothian
Almost £18m will help Dumfries and Galloway turn redundant spaces and buildings into new cultural and leisure opportunities
Ah.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Jim Pickard FT
https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/st...HaIclWcdysCc2g
Levelling up is now dead. Sunak cuts Scottish funding, which was already £300m down from what the EU gave us.
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That’s £300m less than the EU used to give to Scotland. And Scotland got to decide which projects it was spent on.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
You are literally giving Scotland less money and telling us we should be grateful. And at the same time bringing back direct rule from London.
All you dreams come true James.
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I'm sure the poor folk currently living in Granton will be over the moon about them building homes that none of them can afford but at least they are getting a park as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by James310
That's obviously a different point, all I was doing was pointing out all the money wasn't all going to wealthy areas as you had said it was. That's all, facts do matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
You should take it up with Edinburgh Council who applied for the funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloa...und-submission
They obviously felt it was worthwhile doing.
We have considerable family connections in the area, and that's exactly how it is with new housing unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
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It's the whole point. Arguing about the relative wealth of recipient areas is a complete red herring.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
It wasn't me that brought the wealth of the area into the conversation. I was merely pointing out the error.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
If there's funds available it would be negligent of them not to apply. You'd be the first to criticise them for not applying.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
This is what the Tories have done - they've created a hunger games scenario where desperate councils compete with each other for scraps off the Tory table.
They're disgusting.