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Shift a few extra tickets for an away fixture and shift a few extra tickets for an already sold out cup game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Not buying that in the slightest unfortunately.
Not nearly negative enough for my liking from your man (or woman) on the inside.
The important part is that it has been used to counter the drop in morale, nothing has actually happened. Yet the fans are backing fully again and the DD's will keep coming in, this is the best chance at the moment the liths have of recouping some money so you don't the pricks to lose interest and cancel there DD's.Quote:
Originally Posted by EK_Hibs
It's all propoganda, on a scale vlad would be proud of, although I doubt even he would go this far to fleece the fannies.
I was saying this earlier. The Yams have two massive games coming up that could make or break their season. The news of a potential CVA gives them a boost and will galvanise the support for a couple of weeks. Stinks of mind games if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Correct. It wasn't finances they need it's the support. They need as many fans as possible at Killie, they desperately need a win. That's their priority at the moment, extra tickets for home matches are just a bonus now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish
It's also pleasing to watch them fritter their money away in backing the cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish
At the very best they'll be playing Div 1 football with home crowds of circa 5000 and hoping that DD's keep coming in to keep them afloat - that's their best case scenario.
I personally want the worst.
I wonder if Killie will be the next club to give them a pound back for every away fanny they take to RP on Sat?
Bursting your bubble Sergey but Hearts will get very decent crowds even in the Championship, much like Hibs did - it's almost like a 'girfuy' type stance - I remember going to watch Hibs thinking 'this'll show the premier league what they're missing' when we went down - and the crowds and atmosphere especially away was magic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
What Hibs didn't have to contend with was The Rangers - and they'll also potentially have to face a side like Killie 4 times too - they might not come back up first time, then that's where it'll bite big time.
Locke is an absolutely terrible appointment for them - that's what gives me hope they'll struggle and be relegated. Once that happens, he'll be binned and they'll appoint a Jimmy Calderwood type - and strangely enough that kind of manager is what they need.
Wonga. Mccraes battalion. Maroon. Ubig. Ukio bank. Cva. Gary cock. Tattooed twat. Death trap main stand. relegated before xmas. Fartz Fc.
Gary Cock's tv interviews are utterly embarrassing. If there's a brain cell in that head I want to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Hearts will still struggle to jump back up to Premier. They might get decent crowds but they'll struggle all the same.
Be typical of Hibs to miss out on Europe again if they go down and huns still out premier.
If you mean the UBIG shares in HMFC, no they would have no value. After selling off the assets, there would be nothing left to give to the shareholders.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
That said, one of the assets would be the name, which anyone could buy. In Rangers case, that was valued at £1.
Been having a troll through the web for information and came across this from last year.
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/h...necastle-club/
Its by Jamie Borthwick and is quite a good summary of past events. I think I will pay more attention to his articles, miles better than the BBC's insults to journalism.
To be honest, all of that stuff is in the public domain. He's paid his £1 to Companies House, as anyone can, and got it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
That's not being critical of him, but all the other journalists in this and the Rangers case who ignored the facts in favour of whatever spin was being fed to them.
I'm not so sure they will get decent crowds. I think Hearts might be *****ing away the GIRFUY premium on a doomed Premiership campaign. I feel that there might be nothing left in the Gorgie gonads for the Championship, especially as they'll be playing for 2nd place.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Don't think he did pay that £1. When you posted that creditors list I tweeted him to tell him it was on here and he asked me to email him it (I did).Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Agree with greenginger though, certainly a step up from #allisbarry and Laughgate.
Hibs average at home in the first division was 10,433. A lot less than our average over the last 6 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Plus those were people turning up to watch a Hibs team that very nearly won every week, with stylish performances to go along with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
A weak, battered Hearts side, with no guarantee of even finishing second will not have the punters turning up en mass.
Crops,serg,bajillions or anyone else,
This CVA procedure,do ukio as a secured creditor need to go through this process as a formality or can they say no thanks without it ???
It's going to be an interesting battle in Edinburgh over the coming years to be honest and I'm looking forward to it. Hearts vs Spartans vs Edinburgh City for 2nd club in the city.
Although this is just a guess, I wouldn't imagine it was a lot less than our average at the time though.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Hearts dont need stylish to motivate their support, just a good old scrap will do. The Rangers will keep things interesting for them, so perhaps next season Pat should strategically aim for second bottom. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
IF they get relegated (touch wood, crossed fingers etc....)
Eh no, with our record we would lose and swap places with them :grr::grr::grr::grr:Quote:
Originally Posted by rcarter1
It's also worth pointing out that on average they've paid more than twice as much as Hibs fans to watch this season's football and will be paying substantially more for Championship football next season. How long will that last?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
They're feeding off the success they've enjoyed over the last 7 years so happy to pay over the odds now. Without that, they would have lost interest long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
On a slight tangent, it was interesting to read about how much Liverpool played in motivating SAF ( the most successful manager ever) and how important it was for him and MUFC. That's exactly the same with the Yams. We are what drives them on. Hibs do not use the Yams in same way. Celtic have the Huns and vice versa but Hibs have who ??!
I think I would be right in saying that most (if not all) of the drop in Hibs average attendance from 97/98 (12025) to 98/99 (10433) and then the jump back up to 99/00 (12070) was due to the loss of the larger away supports. In each of the two top flight seasons there would have been six games against Huntic and Hearts out of the 18, which would add about 1300 to the season average (4000 * 6 / 18).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray-in-ireland
I suppose it could be argued that the home support was maintained by Hibs basically operating an SPL payroll in the First Division, gambling that the squad would be strong enough to win promotion at the first attempt. Other teams that have had financial problems and then been relegated (eg Dundee) have had more difficulty in sustaining that kind of effort.
I think this idea though that Hearts crowds are suddenly going to melt away is a bit fanciful. Crowd numbers tend to be a lot more consistent nowadays from season to season than they were back in the 60s, 70s or 80s, when far fewer people had season tickets. Where you see a big change in numbers is if the effect is repeated over 3-4 seasons, ie if the team plays well or poorly consistently. We've seen that with Hibs in the last 10 years, where the average has gone from 10,000 in the Bobby years, up to 14,000 in the Mowbray / Collins period, then back to 10,000 now. But the numbers didn't go up or down 4,000 in one year.
As the secured creditor, they are not bound by a positive CVA vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glesgahibby
However, as a partly unsecured creditor, they have a vote in it. If they vote against it (or, indeed, don't vote at all), there will not be the 75% majority required to carry it.
I disagree with the first part. They're paying over the odds now because the threat of extinction has concentrated their minds. If Hibs were to get themselves in the same mess now we'd see a similar reaction from the fans but instead we moan about ST prices because our future is not under any threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
I agree with the second point, but that is at least partly to do with the fans - maybe it's time to step up the rivalry, particularly since we're going to dominate them for the next decade at least.
Hibs feature prominently in everything the Yams are doing - from the FoH video (endorsed by Ian Murray MP) to the '£51' a month DD option they highlighted. Personally I think it's pathetic and, to borrow a phrase, oozing with cringe. It's almost creepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
We don't need to do the same. After all, what happened to Man Utd after they knocked LFC off their f***ing perch? They went on to achieve even more by embedding a culture of winning at the club.
It will nice if Hibs can establish dominance in Edinburgh. But that should be seen as the starting point for us, not the end goal.
It's natural that we compare ourselves to clubs of roughly the same size/average attendance - which in our case is HoMoFC and Aberdeen.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
IMO if they are in the Championship next year something substantial is gonna give.
STs will take a thumping.
Crowds will dwindle.
Walk ups won't walk up.
The Diddies DDs will dry up.
The goodwill and rallying calls this season associated with their survival won't last much beyond a fruitless transfer window when their fate will be sealed.
Cash at tynie next weason will be in even shorter supply than it is now.
Like this season their on field performance will tail off like a lemming swallow diving off the crumbling main stand roof.
But now for the bad news ...
Having just looked into my squeaky clean crystal balls I can see them being liquidated and if they exist at all it will be in a league so far down they'll need a super sub to get there - and no tynie.
I believe so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
It'll be nothing like when we went down and crowds stayed pretty stable. We were steamrolling the division and had an amazing side even for SPL level once Sauzee, Latapy and Mixu arrived.
Their youths will struggle against good clubs who'll view them as a scalp — Falkirk, Livi, Raith, Dundee etc.
And that's not even factoring in the Huns murdering them four times. :agree:
If they are in the 'Championship' next season it seems most likely that they will be out of administration by then. In which case, they should have some leeway to assemble a halfway competent squad that could bully most teams in that division. The Yams would probably like that - a team of hardened journeymen to hoof their way to runners up spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Makaveli