KP - Hibs Voting Intentions

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Originally Posted by Peevemor

Why does that surprise you, it being a Hibs supporters' forum?

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I never said it surprised me.

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Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge

Usual 'Hibs can do no wrong' users out in force in this thread I see.

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What are Hibs doing wrong here?

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Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge

Usual 'Hibs can do no wrong' users out in force in this thread I see.

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Yeah, imagine not disavowing the club just because they potentially won't act in the exact way you want them to.

Happily the business and emotional responses line up nicely here. We'd be mad to vote against this either way.

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Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge

I never said it surprised me.

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Why comment on it then?

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Originally Posted by Peevemor

You are all aware that it's the board and not just Leeann who'll decide how we vote?

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Hope so 👍

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

What are Hibs doing wrong here?

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Nothing so far that I can see. I never said Hibs were doing anything wrong.

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

If you agree that the board are in a better position than you to judge the best course of action then why would you not back them? I could see your point if they wanted to award the league to "Rangers" but in a position where there is no perfect answer but they have better information why go against them?

While it's not a vote for the Premiership it's going to have a significant effect on what happens when a decision has to be made for it.

I also think Hearts should be relegated, but only on the fairest possible basis so they can have no real complaints.

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I wouldn’t back them until they’ve gave justification as to why they would reject the vote (if they do) and even then I just wouldn’t blindly agree with it just because it’s the Hibernian board.

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Originally Posted by 007

If I thought that if our positions were reversed that Budge would vote to save Hibs then I might have some sympathy. Given all the underhanded snipes she's aimed at us in statements/interviews over the past few years I think I can safely say there's no chance she would.

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So you want Hibs to vote for Hearts to get relegated just because that’s what they would do to us? You’re probably right but let’s not lower ourselves to their level - we do what’s best for Hibs and don’t even think about who’s currently bottom of the league.

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Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge

Nothing so far that I can see. I never said Hibs were doing anything wrong.

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In that case I don't understand the point of your op.

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Originally Posted by Vault Boy

Yeah, imagine not disavowing the club just because they potentially won't act in the exact way you want them to.

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It wouldn't just be me going by some of the posts in this thread and other posts on social media platforms.

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Originally Posted by Peevemor

Why comment on it then?

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Because I wanted to. That ok? It is a forum after all.

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Originally Posted by 90+2

I wouldn’t back them until they’ve gave justification as to why they would reject the vote (if they do) and even then I just wouldn’t blindly agree with it just because it’s the Hibernian board.

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by 90+2

I wouldn’t back them until they’ve gave justification as to why they would reject the vote (if they do) and even then I just wouldn’t blindly agree with it just because it’s the Hibernian board.

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I think LD expresses her views very clearly in the article. She makes no comment on whether Hearts should be relegated or whether there should be a 14 team Premiership next season. I agree with the views she expresses but would disagree with the views some on here think she's expressing.

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

I think LD expresses her views very clearly in the article. She makes no comment on whether Hearts should be relegated or whether there should be a 14 team Premiership next season. I agree with the views she expresses but would disagree with the views some on here think she's expressing.

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Fair do’s. It’s a case of wait and see.

The 14 team scenario is completely separate from tomorrow’s vote also.

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Originally Posted by hibeerealist

The justification is in your post - UNIQUE, unprecedented there really is no other way of calling an end to this season, so they go down.

Your idea of running into next year, eh and risk the TV deal why would ANY of the SPL clubs support that?

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Where in that post did I say run into next year? As far as I'm concerned they can end the season now and hand out the prize money. This is about what happens next season for me ... this season is done.

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Originally Posted by Since452

Livingston using common sense

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They have their house in order, sensible playing budget, and made a year end profit

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

They have their house in order, sensible playing budget, and made a year end profit

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Shame about the pitch!

Just vote yes Hibs. It makes Business, Football and emotional sense. Once it’s done we can all move on, safe in the knowledge that our close rivals are taking a £3m hit to their finances over and above whatever CV-19 does. And all their players are still on full pay.


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Not read anything about the second European place: presumably it will be awarded on league placing as the cup is not likely to be completed in time.

(assuming that there is European competition next season)


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God forbid that we ever get to the day whereby Hibs are run by fan power and polls like this one. What a load of Tom Kite.
I trust LD and the Board to vote in whichever way means the best balanced outcome for both Hibs and for the game.
I don't buy this theoretical parking of self-interest and votes being cast solely on what is best for the game overall. Fine in theory but it just doesn't work when it comes down to it. So an outcome that gives some balance for Hibs will be what LD votes for. She certainly will not be voting based on some on here threatening not to come back if her vote ends up in Hertz not going down. Wake up R Soles.

If it wasn’t for Hearts potentially getting relegated we would all be pushing fir League reconstruction of 14/16 teams imho

Just a thought but rather than declare season void or as it is now have the TV money paid to each club as it stands. However, for sporting integrity and all that 2 weeks before the new/next season play the remaining 3 league games up to the split with league positions final. Games would be played sat/midweek/sat plus sevco playing St johnstone game in hand either Thursday before or 2 midweek inbetween. Gives Celtic a chance to mathematically win the league or forever have an asterisk next to this seasons title. Gives Hearts a chance to avoid relegation which would be very unlikely since they were due to play livi and aberdeen away. Lower leagues can play one leg play offs during this with all leagues starting following weekend. TV deal surely wouldn't be effected as would give an extra sevco v celtic match and they could show the last hearts game live for us to watch them go down!

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Originally Posted by galahibee

Just a thought but rather than declare season void or as it is now have the TV money paid to each club as it stands. However, for sporting integrity and all that 2 weeks before the new/next season play the remaining 3 league games up to the split with league positions final. Games would be played sat/midweek/sat plus sevco playing St johnstone game in hand either Thursday before or 2 midweek inbetween. Gives Celtic a chance to mathematically win the league or forever have an asterisk next to this seasons title. Gives Hearts a chance to avoid relegation which would be very unlikely since they were due to play livi and aberdeen away. Lower leagues can play one leg play offs during this with all leagues starting following weekend. TV deal surely wouldn't be effected as would give an extra sevco v celtic match and they could show the last hearts game live for us to watch them go down!

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Originally Posted by Greenworld

Pmsl 2 weeks before your having a giraffe mate

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Why not? Season tickets for all teams gonna sell or not sell regardless

Not reading ten pages, so apologies if I'm repeating waht anyone has said.

I want Hibs to do the right thiing for Scottish football, not to save or relegate Hearts.

With today's announcement that everything is suspended until at least 10 June, it has become impossible to complete the current season.

There are too many players out of contract on 31 May and they can't be forced to continue those contracts beyond that date, so it only takes a few refusals and it is no longer the same competition due to changes in the playing squads. Worse, the clubs affected won't be able to sign replacements.

Even assuming that it is possible to resume training on 10 June, the need for a pre-season means that there will be no competitive games until July. There are then a minimum of nine fixture dates to be fitted in for league matches, plus a few days gap to sort out the post split fixtures, plus two dates for the Scottish Cup, plus a game day for Sevco to finish their European campaign (potentially, if unrealistically, more). So that's July and most of August to finish this season.

That means not being able to start next season until early/mid September and trying to cram all the games in before the European Championships next summer. Assuming of course that the new TV deal for next season can be delayed without jeopardising the much needed money.

Add in that too many clubs need the prize money from this season just to keep their heads above water and it is very clear that the good of Scottish football means foregoing our chances of finishing third in the league, foregoing our chances of reclaiming our Scottish Cup, foregoing our chances of European football and foregoing at least one financially lucrative full house home derby because the bottom club in the top flight will have to be relegated so that the runaway leaders of the second tier can get their deserved promotion.

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Originally Posted by Radium

Not read anything about the second European place: presumably it will be awarded on league placing as the cup is not likely to be completed in time.

(assuming that there is European competition next season)


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Give it Aberdeen. Next year we have 5 spots, so the Cup Winners from this year can get a spot.
Anybody think with 5 Euro spots, the LC Winners should have a spot??

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Originally Posted by galahibee

Just a thought but rather than declare season void or as it is now have the TV money paid to each club as it stands. However, for sporting integrity and all that 2 weeks before the new/next season play the remaining 3 league games up to the split with league positions final. Games would be played sat/midweek/sat plus sevco playing St johnstone game in hand either Thursday before or 2 midweek inbetween. Gives Celtic a chance to mathematically win the league or forever have an asterisk next to this seasons title. Gives Hearts a chance to avoid relegation which would be very unlikely since they were due to play livi and aberdeen away. Lower leagues can play one leg play offs during this with all leagues starting following weekend. TV deal surely wouldn't be effected as would give an extra sevco v celtic match and they could show the last hearts game live for us to watch them go down!

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Don't think you realise how long it takes to draw up a fixture list for the new season.

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Originally Posted by Eyrie

Not reading ten pages, so apologies if I'm repeating waht anyone has said.

I want Hibs to do the right thiing for Scottish football, not to save or relegate Hearts.

With today's announcement that everything is suspended until at least 10 June, it has become impossible to complete the current season.

There are too many players out of contract on 31 May and they can't be forced to continue those contracts beyond that date, so it only takes a few refusals and it is no longer the same competition due to changes in the playing squads. Worse, the clubs affected won't be able to sign replacements.

Even assuming that it is possible to resume training on 10 June, the need for a pre-season means that there will be no competitive games until July. There are then a minimum of nine fixture dates to be fitted in for league matches, plus a few days gap to sort out the post split fixtures, plus two dates for the Scottish Cup, plus a game day for Sevco to finish their European campaign (potentially, if unrealistically, more). So that's July and most of August to finish this season.

That means not being able to start next season until early/mid September and trying to cram all the games in before the European Championships next summer. Assuming of course that the new TV deal for next season can be delayed without jeopardising the much needed money.

Add in that too many clubs need the prize money from this season just to keep their heads above water and it is very clear that the good of Scottish football means foregoing our chances of finishing third in the league, foregoing our chances of reclaiming our Scottish Cup, foregoing our chances of European football and foregoing at least one financially lucrative full house home derby because the bottom club in the top flight will have to be relegated so that the runaway leaders of the second tier can get their deserved promotion.

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Agree..however the Scottish cup is meant to be finished early in the new season so we could be first to win 2 Scottish cups in 1 season lol

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Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby

Give it Aberdeen. Next year we have 5 spots, so the Cup Winners from this year can get a spot.
Anybody think with 5 Euro spots, the LC Winners should have a spot??

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No. Scottish only then league places.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

No. Scottish only then league places.


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Why?? Livi are 5th with a LOSING record---give it to a team who won something.
LC winners in England go into Europe