Embarrassing "support" today

If you booed do not go to next match then all will be fine only people in stadium will be folk who do not boo. Then we can seriously go for the title.

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Originally Posted by Captain Trips

If you booed do not go to next match then all will be fine only people in stadium will be folk who do not boo. Then we can seriously go for the title.

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It will also help the scanners at the turnstiles as only around 1000 fans will turn up.

The booing didn't help but that's not the 1st time Hibs players have gone into their shell this season.

For the 1st time in years we looked utterly terrified at Ibrox. Newall in particular just looked like a scared wee laddie and it showed in his performance. John McGinn was a very good footballer but what will take him to the very top is his attitude and mentality. 'Hearts away, love it'. Can you imagine that coming from Slivka, Mallan or Vela?

Football is a brutal game when the chips are down and it needs strong characters. If we don't have them then Heckingbottom et al better find some this week or there's going to be a lot more days like yesterday.

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Originally Posted by 660

The fans didn’t help

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Support of the fans is very important but I honestly don’t think it was a factor yesterday.

Our team simply couldn’t keep possession and control the game. That spread anxiety to the stands, not the other way around.

Wasn't booing myself but can't blame anyone who was booing. Spending money and wasting time to watch that utter garbage...again. The man is clueless and saying the atmosphere is in any way to blame is ridiculous because it's the same chronic football every week.

Heckingbottom states that the anxiety from the crowd bled into the field and affected the players.... but where on earth did he think the anxiety in the crowd cane from???

A pumping from Rangers, struggling at home to Morton and then a poor second half yesterday... it’s no wonder the crowd were anxious, we’ve seen it before and know what’s coming. I for one am sick of biting my nails and sitting on the edge of my seat in worry for the last 20 mins of every game!! I joked with friends that we need a 3 goal lead to relax... it’s actually true!!!

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Originally Posted by jacomo

Support of the fans is very important but I honestly don’t think it was a factor yesterday.

Our team simply couldn’t keep possession and control the game. That spread anxiety to the stands, not the other way around.

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Spot on. The fans were only anxious because of the way the team were playing and have played previously.

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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

His comments are actually a bit cowardly IMO.

Take some responsibility.

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Yep and those comments will most likely haunt him till he’s sacked next month. It’s now a case of when rather then if.

Tame stuff compared to the 80’s. Players like Stevenson and Hanlon were poor yesterday and I don’t believe they’ve suddenly become crap overnight. The manager deserves the stick he got as the boos were firmly aimed towards him. Tactically inept, wrong substitutions and none of his signing have improved on the players who left.

The booing at the Allan sub was ridiculous IMO, may not have agreed with the way Allan was deployed during the game but perhaps Heck was just taking care of his best player?

***** football though, disappointing that its panned out this way thus far but I’d wait until we’ve played all 11 other teams this year before making any decisions. Heck could come good, and I still think on balance he might, but he needs to be learning from these mistakes.

What really grinds my gears is morons slamming seats. Oooh ya hard man.

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Originally Posted by Chefki Kuqi

The booing at the Allan sub was ridiculous IMO, may not have agreed with the way Allan was deployed during the game but perhaps Heck was just taking care of his best player?

***** football though, disappointing that its panned out this way thus far but I’d wait until we’ve played all 11 other teams this year before making any decisions. Heck could come good, and I still think on balance he might, but he needs to be learning from these mistakes.

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He clearly hasn't learned from his mistakes, he started Scott Allan in a similar position against St Mirren, him moving more central resulted in our winning goal. He wasn't great yesterday, I don't think anyone can disagree with that, but still contributed more than Mallan. Playing him out of position again, substituting him instead of Mallan deserves the reaction he received IMO.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

The booing didn't help but that's not the 1st time Hibs players have gone into their shell this season.

For the 1st time in years we looked utterly terrified at Ibrox. Newall in particular just looked like a scared wee laddie and it showed in his performance. John McGinn was a very good footballer but what will take him to the very top is his attitude and mentality. 'Hearts away, love it'. Can you imagine that coming from Slivka, Mallan or Vela?

Football is a brutal game when the chips are down and it needs strong characters. If we don't have them then Heckingbottom et al better find some this week or there's going to be a lot more days like yesterday.

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Totally agree. Said on another post that we are really lacking big characters, leaders in this side. Ibrox was a horrible example of this.

No Daz or SDG and we are bereft of character in Phs side. In losing Marv, Milli and SJM we lost more than just footballers, we lost players with the ability to lead.

GGTTH

The booing is out of frustration. How that is interpreted and why folk were doing it is equally up for question. Why is it not embarrassing then that folk have jumped on the action and then used it to back fill their own agendas?

Do not buy into the fans booing worked against the players at all. After the first 30 minutes we were brutal. He wasnt subbed until an hour in.

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Originally Posted by WestStandWillie

What really grinds my gears is morons slamming seats. Oooh ya hard man.

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Must admit after the second went in I gave the chair to my right a wee donk. Apologies, should know better.

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Originally Posted by ColintonHibs

Doige is our best player

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You've came out with a few real beauties after the game, top trolling.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by madhatter

Stubbs and Lennon. For different reasons. While a lot of it was in the Championship, the one common thing throughout these years was a strong understanding of what the club were trying to achieve. Before Leeann joined we were inconsistent, as we are now, but we had lack of trust in Rod and Farmer. Leeann came in and the initial period felt like a healing period, Stubbs added to that as he spoke well and seemed a really likeable guy, we had heroes on the park. We played reasonably good football but lacked cutting edge. We won the cup. Stubbs leaves but we recruit Lennon who was a big name. We get promotion with relative ease and have a great first season back up. We ended up being a bit of an arrogant team, gung-ho sometimes but had things like the 5-5 game vs Rangers to enjoy.

This was a rewarding period, we could see the club trying to right some wrongs. Without saying any words the fans knew what was happening and what the priorities were. That’s gone now, especially with Ron taking over. I don’t have a clue what the club’s ambitions are, what our footballing philosophies are, nothing. It’s like going back to Rod and Farmer. Keep paying to come along, we’ve got big plans (buildings and infrastructure) or executive stuff but we’ll only tell you when it gets to that stage. All the while, please watch a shocking standard of football every week. Budgets haven’t changed...

Our football club has lost its way in my opinion. I think in some regards we’ve forgotten the key thing is to have a successful team now. Not planning for one in 30 years. Need kids growing up supporting Hibs and that won’t happen if nobody is going to the games...Chamber of Commerce and all that. All I’m bothered with is what’s going on at ER, get that right ffs.

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Really good post. I wonder if Leeann and Ron are having a long conversation about things.

As like everyone else I am of the opinion Allan should never have been played wide right yesterday. However, I agreed with the decision to take him off. He had a really poor game - yes he was playing out of position but his touch was poor and he was very rarely finding a Hibs shirt when making a pass. Couple this with the fact he was offering no defensive cover for the full back. Heckys also came out and said he’s been carrying a knock all week.

The issue I’m more concerned about is that he pushed Vela further up the park to play behind Kamberi leaving Mallan and Slivka as the two deeper midfielders. I thought Vela was having a good game yesterday. He was showing good energy, breaking things up and winning his fair share of 2nd balls. After the substitutions we stopped winning tackles/2nd balls in the middle of the park which gave them complete control of the game.


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Originally Posted by madhatter

Stubbs and Lennon. For different reasons. While a lot of it was in the Championship, the one common thing throughout these years was a strong understanding of what the club were trying to achieve. Before Leeann joined we were inconsistent, as we are now, but we had lack of trust in Rod and Farmer. Leeann came in and the initial period felt like a healing period, Stubbs added to that as he spoke well and seemed a really likeable guy, we had heroes on the park. We played reasonably good football but lacked cutting edge. We won the cup. Stubbs leaves but we recruit Lennon who was a big name. We get promotion with relative ease and have a great first season back up. We ended up being a bit of an arrogant team, gung-ho sometimes but had things like the 5-5 game vs Rangers to enjoy.

This was a rewarding period, we could see the club trying to right some wrongs. Without saying any words the fans knew what was happening and what the priorities were. That’s gone now, especially with Ron taking over. I don’t have a clue what the club’s ambitions are, what our footballing philosophies are, nothing. It’s like going back to Rod and Farmer. Keep paying to come along, we’ve got big plans (buildings and infrastructure) or executive stuff but we’ll only tell you when it gets to that stage. All the while, please watch a shocking standard of football every week. Budgets haven’t changed...

Our football club has lost its way in my opinion. I think in some regards we’ve forgotten the key thing is to have a successful team now. Not planning for one in 30 years. Need kids growing up supporting Hibs and that won’t happen if nobody is going to the games...Chamber of Commerce and all that. All I’m bothered with is what’s going on at ER, get that right ffs.

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Brilliant post, agree with all of it but your last paragraph is something I’ve been banging on about for a while now. That’s all LD.

She needs to decide if her 5 years are up or if she’s here long term.

Or maybe Ron needs to decide. A bit of leadership from him soon would be welcome. First 100 days coming up...

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Originally Posted by WestStandWillie

What really grinds my gears is morons slamming seats. Oooh ya hard man.

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Aye, it's a big problem right enough.

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Originally Posted by Since452

One of the most toxic atmospheres i can remember at Easter Road. Even worse than the dark days of Lennon. The players confidence looks shot with all the booing. Really really sad. Im sure a bit of real support would have got us over the line today. I'm off this for a while before the inevitable abuse us directed my way.

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So you’re throwing a grenade and then running away like a coward?

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Originally Posted by BouncerRoss

So you’re throwing a grenade and then running away like a coward?

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There's been a fair bit of that since yesterday.

If you have an opinion, or want to make an unfounded accusation, at least stand your ground and argue your point.

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Originally Posted by Fergos

Totally agree. Said on another post that we are really lacking big characters, leaders in this side. Ibrox was a horrible example of this.

No Daz or SDG and we are bereft of character in Phs side. In losing Marv, Milli and SJM we lost more than just footballers, we lost players with the ability to lead.

GGTTH

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Agree with both posts. It would help if the manager displayed some leadership too by owning his mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

The booing didn't help but that's not the 1st time Hibs players have gone into their shell this season.

For the 1st time in years we looked utterly terrified at Ibrox. Newall in particular just looked like a scared wee laddie and it showed in his performance. John McGinn was a very good footballer but what will take him to the very top is his attitude and mentality. 'Hearts away, love it'. Can you imagine that coming from Slivka, Mallan or Vela?

Football is a brutal game when the chips are down and it needs strong characters. If we don't have them then Heckingbottom et al better find some this week or there's going to be a lot more days like yesterday.

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Think Vela will be up for Hearts at Tynie. He takes players out in every game.

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Originally Posted by BouncerRoss

So you’re throwing a grenade and then running away like a coward?

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I think the fans got behind the team after the first equaliser and when we scored. Then followed the team into a shell. The players set the tone for the fans. Been on a downward spiral since the start of last season.

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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs

Think Vela will be up for Hearts at Tynie. He takes players out in every game.

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That’s 17 games away, we need results and Vela contributing a lot more before then.

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Originally Posted by ColintonHibs

Doige is our best player

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Comedian!!

Have to disagree with those saying this is worse than the dark days of Lennon.weve made two awful appointments.one manager who knows Scottish football, can motivate, but his attitude meant it was always going to end in tears. Lennon was awful for us.hecky while he started well, doesn’t know Scottish football and isn’t a manager. Decent coach but he just doesn’t have an eye for a signing and the excuses after the match about it somehow being the fans fault, utterly pathetic.that performance and result warranted booing, it did. You may choose not to boo that’s fine but it shouldn’t affect the players who are profesionals.they need to know the pressures that come with playing for a big club and it must be better.agree the main fault is at Heckys door. Just hope we can bring someone in of a decent quality next time. 3 **** appointments in a row would be unforgivable. Get the next one right Hibs FFS

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Originally Posted by broondog

Have to disagree with those saying this is worse than the dark days of Lennon.weve made two awful appointments.one manager who knows Scottish football, can motivate, but his attitude meant it was always going to end in tears. Lennon was awful for us.hecky while he started well, doesn’t know Scottish football and isn’t a manager. Decent coach but he just doesn’t have an eye for a signing and the excuses after the match about it somehow being the fans fault, utterly pathetic.that performance and result warranted booing, it did. You may choose not to boo that’s fine but it shouldn’t affect the players who are profesionals.they need to know the pressures that come with playing for a big club and it must be better.agree the main fault is at Heckys door. Just hope we can bring someone in of a decent quality next time. 3 **** appointments in a row would be unforgivable. Get the next one right Hibs FFS

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Lennon wasn’t awful for us. That’s just silly.