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20-10-2012, 09:47 AM
MrSmith

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

Their website seems to be avoiding the issue this time. Generally they stick in a couple of sentences along the 'nothing to see here' line, but this time they've said nothing and Webster carefully avoids defining the issue in his interview.

http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_2953263

Not sure what to make of that really.

Given their mentality, a siege mentality I would assume? It will be business as usual and, if they ignore it long enough ... it will go away!

Really stunning their behaviour! However, I would imagine nothing will change ...
20-10-2012, 09:53 AM
cabbageandribs1875

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Originally Posted by DC_Hibs

So would Benny from Crossroads as they don't have any money to free up. The transfer embargo is pointless now Vlad has pulled the plug as they cannot afford currnet expenditure so will be signing nae cant.

Their current predicament is completely self inflicted as the entire paedo nation sat back and watched while Vlad accummulated debt over numerous years overspending quicker than they accumulated sex crime convictions.

i wouldn't bet on that
20-10-2012, 10:18 AM
Jim44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caversham Green

Their website seems to be avoiding the issue this time. Generally they stick in a couple of sentences along the 'nothing to see here' line, but this time they've said nothing and Webster carefully avoids defining the issue in his interview.

http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_2953263

Not sure what to make of that really.

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

Given their mentality, a siege mentality I would assume? It will be business as usual and, if they ignore it long enough ... it will go away!

Really stunning their behaviour! However, I would imagine nothing will change ...

They're keeping their heads down on their website and on JKB in the hope that this issue will die a death and that the SPL will remove any sanctions, already imposed or to be announced on Monday. Arch Jambo Stuart Bathgate has been very quiet on the matter, reporting only bare facts with a spin suggesting that the situation at Tynecastle is a storm in a teacup and that this recent 'breaking of the rules' is minor and that the players are very comfortable with it, in that they were well informed in advance and that apparently this will never happen again. I think the SFA and SPL will swallow it and Skacel will be signed on Tuesday morning.
20-10-2012, 10:36 AM
weecounty hibby

The silence speaks volumes. I have not gotten too excited in the past about these things but this time i really think they are in real deep ****. Their home match this weekend will see them pay the players but i would imagine that some other supplier will get stiffed on the back of it. Its. Not just hand to mouth but robbing Peter to pay Paul and any other phrase you can think of.
Only a matter of time before you hear the hun hordes saying "told you so, clubs cant survive without us" when they do go tits up.
20-10-2012, 10:40 AM
s.a.m

BBCBMcLauchlin‏@BBCBMcLauchlin Hearts will face disciplinary hearing in Monday over failure to pay players on time in Sept. #bbcsportsound

September? Or is that a mistake
20-10-2012, 10:45 AM
Golden Bear

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Originally Posted by s.a.m

BBCBMcLauchlin‏@BBCBMcLauchlin Hearts will face disciplinary hearing in Monday over failure to pay players on time in Sept. #bbcsportsound

September? Or is that a mistake

Maybe the first judgement was in the way of a warning and further action would not be implemented unless the same circumstances were repeated.
20-10-2012, 10:49 AM
Sergey

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Originally Posted by Jim44

They're keeping their heads down on their website and on JKB in the hope that this issue will die a death and that the SPL will remove any sanctions, already imposed or to be announced on Monday. Arch Jambo Stuart Bathgate has been very quiet on the matter, reporting only bare facts with a spin suggesting that the situation at Tynecastle is a storm in a teacup and that this recent 'breaking of the rules' is minor and that the players are very comfortable with it, in that they were well informed in advance and that apparently this will never happen again. I think the SFA and SPL will swallow it and Skacel will be signed on Tuesday morning.

The SPL hearing on Monday relates to the non-payment of Septembers wages - not the October wages. That hearing will take place at a later date.

There's not a hope in hell that they will get off with this and I really hope that the SPL consider a points deduction, as a fine is a non-starter.
20-10-2012, 10:50 AM
weecounty hibby

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Originally Posted by Golden Bear

Maybe the first judgement was in the way of a warning and further action would not be implemented unless the same circumstances were repeated.

Surely a massive club like Hearts wouldnt allow the same "error/glitch" to happen more than once
20-10-2012, 10:50 AM
cabbageandribs1875

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Originally Posted by s.a.m

BBCBMcLauchlin‏@BBCBMcLauchlin Hearts will face disciplinary hearing in Monday over failure to pay players on time in Sept. #bbcsportsound

September? Or is that a mistake

Hearts will face a disciplinary hearing on Monday for their failure to pay a number of players on time in September.
The Edinburgh club have admitted they have again been late with payments for October and will face a further hearing for that offence in the coming weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20015324
20-10-2012, 10:52 AM
s.a.m

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

Hearts will face a disciplinary hearing on Monday for their failure to pay a number of players on time in September.
The Edinburgh club have admitted they have again been late with payments for October and will face a further hearing for that offence in the coming weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20015324

Ta.:aok:

That's clearer.
20-10-2012, 10:53 AM
matty_f

They also shouldn't be permitted to field any unpaid players today.
20-10-2012, 10:56 AM
Golden Bear

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

Hearts will face a disciplinary hearing on Monday for their failure to pay a number of players on time in September.
The Edinburgh club have admitted they have again been late with payments for October and will face a further hearing for that offence in the coming weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20015324

More travel expenses for the boys.
20-10-2012, 10:57 AM
BroxburnHibee

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Originally Posted by matty_f

They also shouldn't be permitted to field any unpaid players today.

No chance
20-10-2012, 11:07 AM
Treadstone

Ryan Stevenson - You only have yourself to blame ...and Vlad .
20-10-2012, 11:15 AM
matty_f

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Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee

No chance

I know.
20-10-2012, 11:29 AM
RyeSloan

Only the SPL would have a meeting about missed wages in September in October after missed wages in October :greengrin

Still think I would be looking to give them a suspended points deduction to ensure they didn't do it again :greengrin
20-10-2012, 11:31 AM
Wotherspiniesta

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Originally Posted by Treadstone

Ryan Stevenson - You only have yourself to blame ...and Vlad .

What an absolute walloper.
20-10-2012, 11:38 AM
Jack Hackett

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Originally Posted by Treadstone

Ryan Stevenson - You only have yourself to blame ...and Vlad .

When you consider the circumstances of his departure, he must have been desperate to re-sign for them...a massive loss of face, but he has a family to provide for and probably few options.

Vlad probably jumped at the chance to show his magnanimity, and once again welcome an errant sheep back to the fold. He would also have realized that he had him by the short and curlies and can treat him with even more disdain this time around.

It's a stick-on that he will be one of the half-dozen made to wait and will just have to bite his lip. If anyone kicks up a fuss this time, it will be McGowan...but then he only has to wait 'til January, when he'll be off tout de suite
20-10-2012, 11:45 AM
nonshinyfinish

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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett

When you consider the circumstances of his departure, he must have been desperate to re-sign for them...a massive loss of face, but he has a family to provide for and probably few options.

He ought to have learned from last time that Hertz is not the place to find a stable wage to provide for your family. His other options might have been offering less money, but it'd be money he'd receive each month, on time.

If he doesn't feel like a total fanny now, then he's even stupider than he looks.
20-10-2012, 11:49 AM
greenginger

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Originally Posted by Jack Hackett

When you consider the circumstances of his departure, he must have been desperate to re-sign for them...a massive loss of face, but he has a family to provide for and probably few options.

Vlad probably jumped at the chance to show his magnanimity, and once again welcome an errant sheep back to the fold. He would also have realized that he had him by the short and curlies and can treat him with even more disdain this time around.

It's a stick-on that he will be one of the half-dozen made to wait and will just have to bite his lip. If anyone kicks up a fuss this time, it will be McGowan...but then he only has to wait 'til January, when he'll be off tout de suite

I had a look at Hearts close season signings ( 4 in total )

2 goalkeepers ?
A young guy from Raith, all managers like to bring a favourite with them. :wink:
Ryan Stevenson - I wonder if he was a gamble the Yams thought would get them into the Europa Cup group stages ? and get their hands on some serious gate receipts and T V money.

Then they were drawn against Liverpool. :greengrin Too late for plan B.
20-10-2012, 12:40 PM
Mikey

Wouldn't it just be tytpical of the SPL to hit them with a suspended punishment for September, knowing that they've already missed October's payment :greengrin

Here, they can copy and paste this to use..........

Sept - Transfer embargo
Oct - 3 points deduction
Nov - 6 point deduction
Dec - 12 points deduction
Jan - 24 point deduction

You can work out the rest :greengrin

And they need to have their meetings much more quickly. Nearly 6 weeks after the event isn't good enough.
20-10-2012, 12:47 PM
nonshinyfinish

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Originally Posted by Mikey

Here, they can copy and paste this to use..........

Sept - Transfer embargo
Oct - 3 points deduction
Nov - 6 point deduction
Dec - 12 points deduction
Jan - 24 point deduction

You can work out the rest :greengrin

I did. :wink:

If that continued through to May, they'd be docked a total of 765 points. Clearly this punishment doesn't go far enough. Anything less than a four-figure points deduction and Gary MacKay being stripped of his medals is a joke IMO.
20-10-2012, 12:54 PM
Mikey

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Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish

I did. :wink:

If that continued through to May, they'd be docked a total of 765 points. Clearly this punishment doesn't go far enough. Anything less than a four-figure points deduction and Gary MacKay being stripped of his medals is a joke IMO.

The 765 point deduction is easily done, but part 2 might be tricky :guesswho:
20-10-2012, 05:33 PM
lord bunberry

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Originally Posted by Mikey

The 765 point deduction is easily done, but part 2 might be tricky :guesswho:

True I've heard mackay keeps his 50m breaststroke medal in a very secure place
20-10-2012, 05:48 PM
Col2

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

True I've heard mackay keeps his 50m breaststroke medal in a very secure place

Joking apart did he not get a medal for winning the soccer sixes?
20-10-2012, 06:11 PM
Carheenlea

He was one of the great zoo animal impersonators of his day, monkeys and apes being his speciality, but don't know if he won any medals for that though.
20-10-2012, 06:22 PM
Viva_Palmeiras

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Originally Posted by Carheenlea

He was one of the great zoo animal impersonators of his day, monkeys and apes being his speciality, but don't know if he won any medals for that though.

What?! Johnny Morris was a jambo? Another Childhood "hero" tarnished :)
20-10-2012, 06:37 PM
Phil D. Rolls

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Originally Posted by Col2

Joking apart did he not get a medal for winning the soccer sixes?

I thought you said "joking apart"? Oh, I see what you did there. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by VivaPalmeiras

What?! Johnny Morris was a jambo? Another Childhood "hero" tarnished :)

What, you mean it was Johnny Morris doing the voices all the time? You'll be telling me Ray Allen was fisting Lord Charles next!! Where does it all end - Nookie bear couldn't really talk, Muffin the Mule is an offence. This modern world is killing me.:confused:
21-10-2012, 08:59 AM
BroxburnHibee

Are they paid yet?
21-10-2012, 09:10 AM
Golden Bear

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Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee

Are they paid yet?

According to Zaliukas they have but I'm not convinced as he's pleading for leniency at tomorrow's SPL Board meeting in the same article. I've a feeling he's telling us a wee white lie in the hope that it will get his Club off the hook.

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