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03-09-2019, 02:42 PM
JeMeSouviens

Former ministers Justine Greening and Alastair Burt have both announced they won't stand for re-election.
03-09-2019, 02:50 PM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Tory MP Philip Lee crosses the floor to sit with the Lib Dems. That's the Tory/DUP majority gone.

He did it while Johnson was speaking. Top trolling!

A WWE style defection.[emoji23]

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03-09-2019, 02:51 PM
Bristolhibby

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Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee

Re. the 2/3 majority needed for a GE.

Latest theory doing the rounds is Boris himself could call a no confidence vote where a simple majority is needed. I'm assuming the tory vote would just whip behind that?

Sorry, come again, call a no confidence vote in himself?

Also, Tories lost their majority Phillip Lee (who?) jumps ship to the Lib Dems.

J
03-09-2019, 02:53 PM
Ozyhibby

With these defections, do we need an election? Opposition parties should just form a coalition now. Chuck in a few £million and the DUP would likely join it.

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03-09-2019, 02:54 PM
CloudSquall

Conservative MPs have started to deselect themselves, what an absolute car crash this is..
03-09-2019, 02:54 PM
Sylar

Listening to BoJo speaking to the Commons. Does he think this is all some big ****ing joke? Laughing, making jokes about the Ashes, and wagging his finger in ways that Adolf would be proud.

Someone needs to remove this man promptly, and in the most efficient manner possible. Preferrably to never return to politics again!
03-09-2019, 02:59 PM
JeMeSouviens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylar

Listening to BoJo speaking to the Commons. Does he think this is all some big ****ing joke? Laughing, making jokes about the Ashes, and wagging his finger in ways that Adolf would be proud.

Someone needs to remove this man promptly, and in the most efficient manner possible. Preferrably to never return to politics again!

Etonians are brought through school with the expectation that they are destined for the cabinet table via Oxbridge. Chumps like Johnson treat the whole thing as a massive extension of the sixth form common room. And why shouldn't they? It's other people's lives they're ****ing with. :rolleyes:
03-09-2019, 03:21 PM
Sylar

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Etonians are brought through school with the expectation that they are destined for the cabinet table via Oxbridge. Chumps like Johnson treat the whole thing as a massive extension of the sixth form common room. And why shouldn't they? It's other people's lives they're ****ing with. :rolleyes:

Sneering about the currency and Independent Scotland would use "the Salmond or the Sturgeon". Jesus ****ing wept.
03-09-2019, 03:24 PM
JeMeSouviens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylar

Sneering about the currency and Independent Scotland would use "the Salmond or the Sturgeon". Jesus ****ing wept.

Any Unionist could have told him the correct sneer for this situation is "groat". Amateur. :rolleyes:
03-09-2019, 03:49 PM
Moulin Yarns

It appears the chair of the Lib Dems LGBT group @LGBTLD has quit the party after Phillip Lee joins the party.
03-09-2019, 03:59 PM
Moulin Yarns

Labour's Angela Eagle: Will the PM "abide by the rule of law", if a bill passes making it illegal to leave the EU without a deal?

Boris Johnson: "We will of course uphold the constitution and obey the law"

Latest: https://t.co/bsA0DJ2HMB https://t.co/wwB92BppCg
03-09-2019, 04:10 PM
The Harp Awakes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylar

Sneering about the currency and Independent Scotland would use "the Salmond or the Sturgeon". Jesus ****ing wept.

:blah:

What a roaster. It would all be a jolly good laugh if it wasn't for the fact he's PM.
03-09-2019, 04:17 PM
GORDONSMITH7

Unlike most on here I watched the whole G7 report back from Boris the Bufoon.
No matter the clips for the News outlets, Corbyn hammered him big time, followed by Ian Blackford of the SNP, getting the boot in too. Splendid. Boris is truely atrocious. Watching a Tory MP actually crossing to the opposition benches live was remarkable.

BIG G
03-09-2019, 04:47 PM
G B Young

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Tory MP Philip Lee crosses the floor to sit with the Lib Dems. That's the Tory/DUP majority gone.

He did it while Johnson was speaking. Top trolling!

He doesn't seem entirely welcome:

Lib Dems' LGBT chair resigns over Lee defection

Jennie Rigg, chair of the Lib Dems LGBT group, says on Twitter that she has sent an email to the membership resigning after the party accepted Phillip Lee as an MP.
Among her concerns is his support in 2014 for banning HIV-positive immigrants from Britain.
In a blogpost, Ms Rigg accused him of being a "homophobe, a xenophobe, and someone who thinks people should be barred from the country if they are ill".
03-09-2019, 04:55 PM
bigwheel

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Originally Posted by Colr

And deliver it too. I did 28 schools in 3 years under the Blair government before I moved to urban regen and delivering 1000s of new homes.

I did more under Blair than any other time in my career. The last 9 years have been so frustrating in contrast.

They were indeed great, for the first 5 years , of focus and implementation...lost their way with the gulf war ....
03-09-2019, 04:56 PM
bigwheel

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

This is so fast moving that there won’t be time to repeat it that often. There will be other bills along before it has time to bed in.

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Yeah. It was more the principle than the bill example ..simple repetitive language makes a high impact - talking about different things confuses the message ....
03-09-2019, 05:32 PM
GlesgaeHibby

Not sure who's performance was worse today - Bojo or Jackson Carlaw. Carlaw's jibe at Sturgeon was classless. Hope he gets the job.
03-09-2019, 06:36 PM
Glory Lurker

The arithmetic and possible outcomes at Westminster are now less fathomable than the UEFA Nations League.
03-09-2019, 06:46 PM
Ozyhibby

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Why Corbyn must not fall into trap of giving Johnson an election.

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03-09-2019, 06:49 PM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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Why Corbyn must not fall into trap of giving Johnson an election.

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And that applies to the SNP as well, who are likely to gain. They need to stop brexit first.

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03-09-2019, 06:56 PM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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Why Corbyn must not fall into trap of giving Johnson an election.

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And that applies to the SNP as well, who are likely to gain. They need to stop brexit first.

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03-09-2019, 07:00 PM
Mibbes Aye

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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Why Corbyn must not fall into trap of giving Johnson an election.

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Of course the other factor is the constituency arithmetic. The Brexit party vote share will never translate into a comparable number of seats. The Lib Dems also won’t win as many seats as their vote share would suggest they deserve.

In Scotland the SNP will take 80+% of the seats while being a fair bit short on f that on the popular vote.

It is what it is and I don’t have a particular issue with it. We blew the chance of a more equitable system with the AV referendum result.
03-09-2019, 07:13 PM
Colr

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

Of course the other factor is the constituency arithmetic. The Brexit party vote share will never translate into a comparable number of seats. The Lib Dems also won’t win as many seats as their vote share would suggest they deserve.

In Scotland the SNP will take 80+% of the seats while being a fair bit short on f that on the popular vote.

It is what it is and I don’t have a particular issue with it. We blew the chance of a more equitable system with the AV referendum result.

AV or PR look a hell of a lot more attractive following the current ****show So much for the strong government provided by FPTP
03-09-2019, 07:33 PM
Bristolhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colr

AV or PR look a hell of a lot more attractive following the current ****show So much for the strong government provided by FPTP

I’m looking forward to the “Coalition of Chaos” if anything just for a bit of stability.

J
03-09-2019, 07:53 PM
GlesgaeHibby

Conservative Chief Whip calling in confirmed rebels ahead of the vote to withdraw the vote.

Mogg was essentially begging for a vote of no confidence earlier. Hopefully the opposition benches let this shower suffer through their own mess.
03-09-2019, 07:58 PM
Hiber-nation

Rees Mogg's actually lying almost flat on his back on the front bench.

Bizarre human being.
03-09-2019, 07:59 PM
Ozyhibby

PR would likely half the number of SNP mp’s and would also make MP’s much more compliant to the central party machine.
They would no longer represent an area, just the party.
Not for me.

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03-09-2019, 08:12 PM
Just Jimmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiber-nation

Rees Mogg's actually lying almost flat on his back on the front bench.

Bizarre human being.

imagine if you were in work and lay on your back in a meeting and rolled your eyes everytime one of you colleagues spoke or disagreed with your position.

he's simply an arrogant, petulant and rude prick.

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03-09-2019, 08:28 PM
Hiber-nation

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Jimmy

imagine if you were in work and lay on your back in a meeting and rolled your eyes everytime one of you colleagues spoke or disagreed with your position.

he's simply an arrogant, petulant and rude prick.

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Indeed. Caroline Lucas has just called him out for it and said it is a contemptuous approach.
03-09-2019, 08:30 PM
bawheid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Jimmy

imagine if you were in work and lay on your back in a meeting and rolled your eyes everytime one of you colleagues spoke or disagreed with your position.

he's simply an arrogant, petulant and rude prick.

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It’s been easy for these clowns to crow from the back benches. Not so easy trying to actually govern.

Nadine Dorries sits on the front bench. WTF has happened to this country.
03-09-2019, 09:02 PM
JeMeSouviens

Division!!!!!!
03-09-2019, 09:07 PM
Hibrandenburg

The language used by dissenting Tories is unlike anything I've ever heard from the tories when talking about Johnson. The contempt is palpable.
03-09-2019, 09:09 PM
Callum_62

https://twitter.com/annaturley/statu...166237185?s=09

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03-09-2019, 09:10 PM
Mr Grieves

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

https://twitter.com/annaturley/statu...166237185?s=09

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What a ****
03-09-2019, 09:13 PM
Callum_62

328 to 301 rebels win

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03-09-2019, 09:14 PM
Sylar

Suck on it, you absolute shower of ****s! :aok:
03-09-2019, 09:17 PM
GlesgaeHibby

Boris face...hahahahaha you ain't getting the election you want until the bill passes
03-09-2019, 09:18 PM
Ozyhibby

Corbyn says no election until no deal off the table.

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03-09-2019, 09:18 PM
Hibrandenburg

Blackford speech cut out again. Happened earlier too. An hours debate covered live but the SNP were given voice over.
03-09-2019, 09:20 PM
Callum_62

Motion tabled to call an election

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03-09-2019, 09:20 PM
Ozyhibby

21 Tory rebels. Their majority will be deep into negative territory now.

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03-09-2019, 09:21 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Blackford speech cut out again. Happened earlier too. An hours debate covered live but the SNP were given voice over.

It was shown in full on the bbc news channel.
03-09-2019, 09:21 PM
Callum_62

Guto bebb expects more tory mps to leave the party

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03-09-2019, 09:21 PM
GlesgaeHibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callum_62

Motion tabled to call an election

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He isn't getting it until no deal is off the table. Boris and his cabal have played this so badly.
03-09-2019, 09:22 PM
Hibernia&Alba

Bozo and his Brextremists must be made to face the electorate. He's been caught lying yet again. Get these nutters out of office via a general election; Corbyn must call a vote of no confidence, pre-empting Johnson's contrived election.
03-09-2019, 09:23 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby

He isn't getting it until no deal is off the table. Boris and his cabal have played this so badly.

If he gets a majority in the election can’t he just run down the clock and get no deal after the next delay?
03-09-2019, 09:25 PM
Moulin Yarns

Ha, ha. Did anyone see the Sarah Smith piece outside holyrood o on the BBC news?
03-09-2019, 09:25 PM
SHODAN

Every Scottish Tory voted with Boris.

It's okay, they'll be gone soon.
03-09-2019, 09:25 PM
lapsedhibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby

Boris and his cabal have played this so badly.

That can't be right. Dominic Cummings is a genius. :confused:
It must be that they've played it well but have been knobbled by collaborators, traitors, quislings and that.
03-09-2019, 09:26 PM
Hibernia&Alba

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord bunberry

If he gets a majority in the election can’t he just run down the clock and get no deal after the next delay?

Yes, but that's a huge if. Brexit voters were told it would be the easiest deal in history etc; how many of them will hold firm now?

Scotland will boot out its dozen Tory MPs for a start.
03-09-2019, 09:31 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Yes, but that's a huge if. Brexit voters were told it would be the easiest deal in history etc; how many of them will hold firm now?

Scotland will boot out its dozen Tory MPs for a start.

I think the Tories will return a large majority in an election. The brexit party won’t stand against them, but they will stand against labour in leave areas.
03-09-2019, 09:32 PM
Callum_62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diclonius

Every Scottish Tory voted with Boris.

It's okay, they'll be gone soon.

Absolute disgrace. How anyone in Scotland votes for them thinking they have our interests at heart is beyond me.

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03-09-2019, 09:33 PM
stokesmessiah

I actually think that tonight has just made no deal more certain. Deal between BoJo and his clowns and Farage on the cards.
03-09-2019, 09:34 PM
Hibernia&Alba

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord bunberry

I think the Tories will return a large majority in an election. The brexit party won’t stand against them, but they will stand against labour in leave areas.

It could be a factor, but I think people are waking up to the Brexit nonsense and realise no deal is madness.
03-09-2019, 09:36 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

It could be a factor, but I think people are waking up to the Brexit nonsense and realise no deal is madness.

I’m not sure I share your optimism on that. There was a show on channel 5 last night and plenty people in the audience still backed brexit no matter what. I read a quote earlier that brexit was closely linked to English nationalism and there might be some truth in that.
03-09-2019, 09:38 PM
Hibernia&Alba

Tory MPs who voted against the government to be stripped of Tory whip - 21 of them, including two former Chancellors, in what is already a minority government. Bozo in total panic.
03-09-2019, 09:40 PM
Iain G

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

It could be a factor, but I think people are waking up to the Brexit nonsense and realise no deal is madness.

Leaving the EU is madness in itself, leaving without a deal is just insanity!
03-09-2019, 09:40 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Tory MPs who voted against the government to be stripped of Tory whip - 21 of them, including two former Chancellors, in what is already a minority government. Bozo in total panic.

I wonder if May was one of the rebels.
03-09-2019, 09:40 PM
Ozyhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord bunberry

If he gets a majority in the election can’t he just run down the clock and get no deal after the next delay?

Yes. Choice in an election will be a no deal brexit v Corbyn govt. What a terrible choice.

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03-09-2019, 09:41 PM
Iain G

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Yes. Choice in an election will be a no deal brexit v Corbyn govt. What a terrible choice.

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It's like having two bags of sweeties...and both of them contain a big fat jobby!
03-09-2019, 09:41 PM
cabbageandribs1875

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03-09-2019, 09:42 PM
bringbackbenny

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord bunberry

I wonder if May was one of the rebels.

Nope, spineless as always.
03-09-2019, 09:43 PM
Ryan91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Yes, but that's a huge if. Brexit voters were told it would be the easiest deal in history etc; how many of them will hold firm now?

Scotland will boot out its dozen Tory MPs for a start.

Farage and his Brexit Party will be interesting to watch, they'll face far greater scrutiny at a GE than they did at the Euro Elections.

Wonder if they choose to stand in all seats or maybe they stand aside in pro-Leave Tory seats and go after pro-Leave Labour seats?

Hope that fanny stands and fails to get elected AGAIN
03-09-2019, 09:43 PM
Callum_62

Anyone with any sense must see the only compromise is a soft brexit

No deal is just madness

Revoking causing more division

In saying that I just think its all a massive mess which is probably going to cause the biggest shake up in politics in my generation

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03-09-2019, 09:44 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan91

Farage and his Brexit Party will be interesting to watch, they'll face far greater scrutiny at a GE than they did at the Euro Elections.

Wonder if they choose to stand in all seats or maybe they stand aside in pro-Leave Tory seats and go after pro-Leave Labour seats?

Hope that fanny stands and fails to get elected AGAIN

They’ve agreed a non aggression pact with the tories.
03-09-2019, 09:45 PM
Smartie

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Originally Posted by stokesmessiah

I actually think that tonight has just made no deal more certain. Deal between BoJo and his clowns and Farage on the cards.

I don't think there is a majority in favour of Brexit any more.

The problem is, it is far easier to see Farage and BoJo striking a deal and standing together whereas it is much harder to see the Remainers standing together - not unreasonable either, as Corbyn is a divisive figure for many.

I can only see BoJo winning with a substantial majority and having a strong mandate to do whatever he wants - that will be a no deal, hard Brexit and all manner of insufferable nonsense after that.
03-09-2019, 09:46 PM
Ozyhibby

Can Corbyn win?

He would need to come out for a 2nd ref, he would need non aggression pact with the Lib Dem’s, Plaid and SNP and then he would need a coalition with them and even then it would be close.

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03-09-2019, 09:47 PM
1875godsgift

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

It could be a factor, but I think people are waking up to the Brexit nonsense and realise no deal is madness.

:agree: I think there was some complacency among Remainers, in that they didn't expect to lose.

Much like David Cameron :wink:
03-09-2019, 09:48 PM
Colr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Can Corbyn win?

He would need to come out for a 2nd ref, he would need non aggression pact with the Lib Dem’s, Plaid and SNP and then he would need a coalition with them and even then it would be close.

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Would McLuskey and Milne let him? Would anyone believe him if he did. He’s leave and always has been.
03-09-2019, 09:48 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callum_62

Anyone with any sense must see the only compromise is a soft brexit

No deal is just madness

Revoking causing more division

In saying that I just think its all a massive mess which is probably going to cause the biggest shake up in politics in my generation

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I agree but it’s not going to happen imo. No deal will happen, it’s just a matter of when. The only thing that will stop it is the tories not getting a majority in a general election.
03-09-2019, 09:49 PM
Ryan91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callum_62

Anyone with any sense must see the only compromise is a soft brexit

No deal is just madness

Revoking causing more division

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There won't be a middle ground unfortunately.

Remaining with our current deal or No deal are the choices.

Either way, any ills that befall the UK in either scenario will be blamed on the EU
03-09-2019, 09:49 PM
Ozyhibby

The 21 Tory rebels standing as independents could also be a problem for the Tories. Would split Tory vote in those areas.

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03-09-2019, 09:49 PM
Callum_62

Dunno like - Labour came fairly close last snap GE after forecasting a huge majority for the tories

If Scotland vote as expected SNP will gain 11 or so seats from the tories

Definately would need a pact with SNP plaid etc (hello indy ref 2)

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03-09-2019, 09:50 PM
Ozyhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan91

There won't be a middle ground unfortunately.

Remaining with our current deal or No deal are the choices.

Either way, any ills that befall the UK in either scenario will be blamed on the EU

Yip. Middle ground has now gone. It’s winner takes all.

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03-09-2019, 09:51 PM
Callum_62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Yip. Middle ground has now gone. It’s winner takes all.

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"all" isn't that much in a no deal brexit [emoji23]

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03-09-2019, 09:51 PM
Hibernia&Alba

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Yes. Choice in an election will be a no deal brexit v Corbyn govt. What a terrible choice.

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Nonsense. A Corbyn government is infinitely preferable, IMO. Our society has been destroyed since 2010; there is no dilemma here. We need an alternative to the neoliberal race to the bottom. End moneyism and let's test whether humanism can provide a better path, as the Attlee government did in 1945. It can't do any worse but may do so much better.
03-09-2019, 09:52 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callum_62

Dunno like - Labour came fairly close last snap GE after forecasting a huge majority for the tories

If Scotland vote as expected SNP will gain 11 or so seats from the tories

Definately would need a pact with SNP plaid etc (hello indy ref 2)

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I hope you’re right, but labours credibility has taken a bit of a battering since then.
03-09-2019, 09:53 PM
Ozyhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Nonsense. A Corbyn government is infinitely preferable, IMO. Our society has been destroyed since 2010; there is no dilemma here. We need an alternative to the neoliberal race to the bottom. End moneyism and let's test whether humanism can provide a better path, as the Attlee government did in 1945. It can't do any worse but may do so much better.

With 21 less Tory mp’s then we could have a new govt by tomorrow if mp’s wanted it.

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03-09-2019, 09:55 PM
Colr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

With 21 less Tory mp’s then we could have a new govt by tomorrow if mp’s wanted it.

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Led by whom?
03-09-2019, 09:57 PM
Ryan91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colr

Led by whom?

Not Corbyn, popular alternatives seem to be Ken Clarke or Yvette Cooper, Jo Swinson probably thinks she's in with a shot, but she'll find herself being ignored by everyone else.
03-09-2019, 09:57 PM
stoneyburn hibs

I see that the self serving scrote David no deal would be a disaster for Scotland Mundell voted against.

Every Scottish Tory.
03-09-2019, 09:59 PM
Hibernia&Alba

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

With 21 less Tory mp’s then we could have a new govt by tomorrow if mp’s wanted it.

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There has to be a general election first.
03-09-2019, 09:59 PM
Callum_62

All 21 rebels have been informed they are out apparently

Ledsom seemed to suggest there was a way back for them in tomorrow's vote

This includes Winston Churchills grandson

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03-09-2019, 09:59 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs

I see that the self serving scrote David no deal would be a disaster for Scotland Mundell voted against.

That spineless loser would never do anything that might threaten his career, a complete disgrace of a man.
03-09-2019, 10:01 PM
stoneyburn hibs

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord bunberry

That spineless loser would never do anything that might threaten his career, a complete disgrace of a man.

I just edited my post mate.

It was every Scottish Tory.
03-09-2019, 10:03 PM
Future17

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby

Not sure who's performance was worse today - Bojo or Jackson Carlaw. Carlaw's jibe at Sturgeon was classless. Hope he gets the job.

It was crass and stupid, but her comment wasn't particularly endearing either.
03-09-2019, 10:05 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoneyburn hibs

I just edited my post mate.

It was every Scottish Tory.

My reply applies to all of them :greengrin
03-09-2019, 10:07 PM
Hibrandenburg

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord bunberry

It was shown in full on the bbc news channel.

Damn, I was watching sky because I was pissed off with the BBC doing it permanently. What did I miss.
03-09-2019, 10:07 PM
Callum_62

21 rebels now confirmed whip has been removed

Well that's gotta guarentee them voting for the bill tomorrow

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03-09-2019, 10:09 PM
stoneyburn hibs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callum_62

21 rebels now confirmed whip has been removed

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Wow, totally mental.
03-09-2019, 10:11 PM
Hibrandenburg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Bozo and his Brextremists must be made to face the electorate. He's been caught lying yet again. Get these nutters out of office via a general election; Corbyn must call a vote of no confidence, pre-empting Johnson's contrived election.

Careful what you wish for. In my particular echo chamber, the remoaners are now considered to be traitors and Boris is the messiah.
03-09-2019, 10:13 PM
Hibrandenburg

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

That can't be right. Dominic Cummings is a genius. :confused:
It must be that they've played it well but have been knobbled by collaborators, traitors, quislings and that.

That's going to be the underlying rhetoric. I'm sure the word Corbynites will also be thrown around and the Boris fan club will lap it up.
03-09-2019, 10:14 PM
JeMeSouviens

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord bunberry

They’ve agreed a non aggression pact with the tories.

They’ve proposed one, but only if Johnson commits to no deal.

Doubt the Tories will bite, they’re trying to triangulate Farage out. Also doubt Farage means it, his only real priority is Farage.
03-09-2019, 10:15 PM
lord bunberry

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Damn, I was watching sky because I was pissed off with the BBC doing it permanently. What did I miss.

Not much it was pretty short. He said he could have his general election as soon as no deal was taken off the table.
03-09-2019, 10:17 PM
JeMeSouviens

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Can Corbyn win?

He would need to come out for a 2nd ref, he would need non aggression pact with the Lib Dem’s, Plaid and SNP and then he would need a coalition with them and even then it would be close.

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Under FPTP he has a chance. In the heat of a GE a good bit of the Green and Lib vote will melt away.

Another hung parliament wouldn’t surprise me tbh.
03-09-2019, 10:17 PM
lord bunberry

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

They’ve proposed one, but only if Johnson commits to no deal.

Doubt the Tories will bite, they’re trying to triangulate Farage out. Also doubt Farage means it, his only real priority is Farage.

Possibly, but if he really wants brexit a deal with the tories is his best chance.
03-09-2019, 10:18 PM
Hibrandenburg

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

I read a quote earlier that brexit was closely linked to English nationalism and there might be some truth in that.

It's worse than you think, apparently we're still at war with Germany and this is just Hitler's long game playing out. I don't know what's in the water south of the Tweed, but it's potent stuff.
03-09-2019, 10:19 PM
JeMeSouviens

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

Possibly, but if he really wants brexit a deal with the tories is his best chance.

He’d much rather be still in the game with a fresh betrayal narrative, imo.
03-09-2019, 10:26 PM
Hibrandenburg

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

Not much it was pretty short. He said he could have his general election as soon as no deal was taken off the table.

Thanks.
03-09-2019, 10:30 PM
cabbageandribs1875

IDS feeling peckish

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/...gS1CJgqIX-A4d0

the dirty runt :sick:

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