Reports this evening that Dumbarton will enter administration tomorrow. With that a 15 points deduction which will put them bottom of the league.
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Reports this evening that Dumbarton will enter administration tomorrow. With that a 15 points deduction which will put them bottom of the league.
The shopping centre is pretty amazing.
Another west of Scotland club in the shadow of the OF, not a surprise really.
Said weeks ago ICT would manage to survive the drop :greengrin
That is sad. Our 1887 Cup Final opponents.
Hope they get themselves sorted out.
Led to believe they won't be the last before the season is up either. A lot of League 1/2 sides seriously struggling financially just now. A couple of Championship ones too.
Mental with trickle down economics and Celtic making more money than they ever have. It’s almost like that’s a myth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Tri colour economics eh!Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Yup, the solidarity payments don’t go far enough. SPFL could work out a way of “taxing” European earnings to allow for a much more fairer distribution of wealth across the Prem and lower leagues to improve competitiveness, raise the standard and support some of our oldest clubs during difficult economic times.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
I’m absolutely certain a socialist club like Celtic would support such a notion.
The Dutch implemented a fairer model in 2018 (https://eredivisie.eu/news/eredivisie-first-league-to-redistribute-revenues-from-uefa-club-competitions/). Unsure what the situation is today.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gubbz
Looks like one perk for the clubs participating in Europe is that all clubs in the Eredivisie are obliged to cooperate in requests for matches to be moved in the interest of achieving an optimal match schedule for clubs playing in a UEFA club competition. Our ugly sisters are always making noises about how unfair it is - maybe this could be the way to benefit all clubs.
It’s a sad state the way football is going when the bigger clubs are growing bigger every way possible and greedier too while others are struggling…
personally I think especially in Scotland we need clubs like these though I just don’t see any hope for them surviving in the future . Really think it’s quite sad and worrying where it will all end 😢
:faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by stuart-farquhar
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We really need a complete overhaul of scottish football, economical, developmental the lotQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
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Rock bottomQuote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Dumbarton have very disinterested and dodgy owners so this is no surprise.
We need less teams in the Scottish leagues. At least at a national level
Budge will surely be to the rescue.
Do we? What would be gained by it?Quote:
Originally Posted by sambajustice
At the moment we effectively have 2 leagues of full time clubs and 2 leagues of part time clubs.
The supporters of the part time clubs love their clubs as much as we love ours and have their own dreams.
Why would you want to mess with that?
I see it differently in we need these clubs as they are important … how many players have dropped down from bigger clubs only to build themselves a career …Quote:
Originally Posted by sambajustice
Players like Kevin Nisbet who I think started with us went to Partick thistle and then out on loan to another lower league team only to become a very good player … Shankland drop down too maybe? ….
My opinion is losing clubs in Scotland only weakens the potential to develop players for the good of the league and Scotland .
No we dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by sambajustice
We would just lose people to other sports.
We need clubs to live properly within their means alongside a fairer system.
You’ll see alot more people walking down Dumbarton high st in Old firm tops rather than Dumbarton tops.
It’s a shame what happened to Scottish football it could have been so much better.
This is only going to get worse, especially if Celtic can sustain any relative European success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
One of my favourite games was at Boghead 40-years ago when we were competing with Dumbarton to stay up.
Took a massive crowd through and beat them 2-0.
Willie Irvine and Brian Rice if memory serves.
I remember the song "You're goin' doon, you're going doon, We're no."
GGTTH
I was at this also it was a must win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Hart RIP
I somehow remember Gordon Durie scoring in a 2-2 draw too must have been a bit later.
My one and only visit to Boghead , Hibs ran free buses from Easter Road as it was such an important game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Hart RIP
There's no real answer to it but I've always felt Scotland has a mix of too many teams and too many supporting the old firm which leaves too many clubs spread thin on reliable income. One bad season and it's armageddon. Even outside the SPFL there's a whole host of Lowland League and Juniors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
The make up of the countrys population now can't sustain clubs that were once able to thrive due to a much stronger workforce in the area. It won't get better for teams like Dumbarton, Greenock Morton, QOTS, or Alloa to name just a few.
I too was at this game, some atmosphere. I think the club ran free buses through?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Hart RIP
Dumbarton triggered one of my favourite Scottish football headlines - “Cruyff for Boghead” when they were rumoured to be signing the great man!
it’s the logical progression and consequence of taking TV money and enticing clubs away from being sustainable. The rich get richer and potentially same / more money to spread amongst fewer teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Murdo Murdo,Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorrie
Murdo Murdo!
I agree, even back in the day many of these clubs had small crowds and relied on visits from the bigger clubs. I think especially in the west loads of younger fans are leaning towards the OF even more so now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf