New Supreme Court ruling on fossil fuels.

This probably deserves its own thread.

The Supreme Court has ruled that during the planning process for new fossil fuel sites that not only the construction of the site should be considered but now the actual burning of the fossil fuels mined should be taken into account regards its green obligations. This could put a few cats amongst the pigeons.


https://x.com/GreenpeaceUK/status/18...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Originally Posted by Andy Bee

This probably deserves its own thread.

The Supreme Court has ruled that during the planning process for new fossil fuel sites that not only the construction of the site should be considered but now the actual burning of the fossil fuels mined should be taken into account regards its green obligations. This could put a few cats amongst the pigeons.


https://x.com/GreenpeaceUK/status/18...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Thanks for posting this.

I haven't been following this. Whilst, on the face of it, it seems like a sensible decision to me, I'm wondering what the arguments against it are, and what the possible unintended consequences are.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Thanks for posting this.

I haven't been following this. Whilst, on the face of it, it seems like a sensible decision to me, I'm wondering what the arguments against it are, and what the possible unintended consequences are.

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I imagine it will force us to go green quicker. If you want any activity to stop, setting the planning system on it is probably the best way of doing it.


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It's throwing doubt on licenses issued for examples like Cambo and Rosebank. I'd imagine those two will produce millions if not 10's of millions of barrels of oil and they now have to include the environmental impacts the actual oil produced have on the planet where they didn't have to previously. I suppose it's not far off what SNP were suggesting with the Climate Compatibility Tests.

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Originally Posted by Andy Bee

It's throwing doubt on licenses issued for examples like Cambo and Rosebank. I'd imagine those two will produce millions if not 10's of millions of barrels of oil and they now have to include the environmental impacts the actual oil produced have on the planet where they didn't have to previously. I suppose it's not far off what SNP were suggesting with the Climate Compatibility Tests.

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But if we don't use our own oil fields, won't it just be a case that we'll buy it from somewhere else instead?

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I happily admit that I'm not an expert on this but... that would kind of render the concept pretty meaningless.

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

But if we don't use our own oil fields, won't it just be a case that we'll buy it from somewhere else instead?

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I happily admit that I'm not an expert on this but... that would kind of render the concept pretty meaningless.

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I am with you, wouldn't we just import it so might as well do it ourselves and benefit from the ongoing investment and jobs?

A climate compatibility test sounds like nonsense, how can any extraction of oil and gas be good for the climate? It sounds like a get out for people that want to play on both sides, neither committing to it or coming out and saying you are against it. Do we even know what the tests are?

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Originally Posted by jamie_1875

I am with you, wouldn't we just import it so might as well do it ourselves and benefit from the ongoing investment and jobs?

A climate compatibility test sounds like nonsense, how can any extraction of oil and gas be good for the climate? It sounds like a get out for people that want to play on both sides, neither committing to it or coming out and saying you are against it. Do we even know what the tests are?

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The majority of crude oil used in the UK comes from Norway, second is the US which may now be first. Add to that Grangemouth is closing and moving to the Netherlands with Ratcliffe receiving a £500m bung from Westminster then I doubt it'll make much difference.

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Originally Posted by jamie_1875

I am with you, wouldn't we just import it so might as well do it ourselves and benefit from the ongoing investment and jobs?

A climate compatibility test sounds like nonsense, how can any extraction of oil and gas be good for the climate? It sounds like a get out for people that want to play on both sides, neither committing to it or coming out and saying you are against it. Do we even know what the tests are?

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We don’t know , the SNP are all over the place on this one. Swinney and Forbes were both floundering when asked to expand with Forbes even claiming that the presumption against new licences that Sturgeon and Yousaf supported was never a thing. We deserve better from our politicians than vague policy stances only being taken to protect SNP seats in the North East.

Hopefully leads to more of this.

https://www.beatricewind.com/

I saw this yesterday when I was up at John o'groats. It looks huge.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

Hopefully leads to more of this.

https://www.beatricewind.com/

I saw this yesterday when I was up at John o'groats. It looks huge.

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The capacity we have for this kind of thing is massive. We need a strategy for making sure we develop expertise in the building and operating of them.


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Bumping this thread.

Have it on good authority there will some big news on this very shortly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3e1pw7npklo

Approvals for Rosebank and Jackdaw quashed as unlawful. Operators need to re-apply for development consent.

Brutal for those involved. Authorities really are doing their best to destroy the domestic oil and gas industry. Silly thing is, without any demand curbs the country will still use/burn the same volume of oil and gas, just the econmic benefits will all simply go to Norway etc.

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Originally Posted by Posh Swanny

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3e1pw7npklo

Approvals for Rosebank and Jackdaw quashed as unlawful. Operators need to re-apply for development consent.

Brutal for those involved. Authorities really are doing their best to destroy the domestic oil and gas industry. Silly thing is, without any demand curbs the country will still use/burn the same volume of oil and gas, just the econmic benefits will all simply go to Norway etc.

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The govt can change the law anytime they want.


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Just close this thread. It’s all smoke and mirrors. I was told over 10 years ago that Scotlands oil was done. It was finished.

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Originally Posted by greenlex

Just close this thread. It’s all smoke and mirrors. I was told over 10 years ago that Scotlands oil was done. It was finished.

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If you drive up Aberdeen on a calm still night and listen closely you can hear yon oilrigs slurping away just like happens when you reach the bottom of one of those Macdonalds chocolate milkshakes. :agree:

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If you drive up Aberdeen on a calm still night and listen closely you can hear yon oilrigs slurping away just like happens when you reach the bottom of one of those Macdonalds chocolate milkshakes. :agree:

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😂😂😂

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Originally Posted by greenlex

Just close this thread. It’s all smoke and mirrors. I was told over 10 years ago that Scotlands oil was done. It was finished.

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:agree:


Scotland's oil will run out by 2019. Voting for independence means we would have no income, and would be begging to rejoin the UK to end our poverty... and to get back into the EU.

Rule Britannia!