Ron is on a mission to take the club to the next level...
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Ron is on a mission to take the club to the next level...
https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1441427464580841476?s=20
Is he, aye? I'm not coming back until we have a 100% record across all competitions and beat Hearts 50-0.
Seriously though, good news.
Don’t think you’ll find many Approved electricians, plumbers or “skilled” handymen willing to work for £24k a year though.
From what I’ve seen and am hearing Saul, the model is very much on brand growth and as much investment in the team as possible. Admittedly - and it’s a concern for some - other areas are not going to be as invested in as per previous levels. He’s very focused on building the global Hibs brand (and Scottish football) which is great. I was a wee bit concerned at hearing recently about not investing as much in the pitch/playing surface. He’s already made changes to stadium staff and infrastructure.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaulGoodman
That said, I’m excited that money is going to JR and it looks like Ron is fully focused on the first team and developing talent - I think we’ll see more players from untapped markets in the Americas too. It’s a no nonsense, high enthusiasm approach.
That video content role sounds like three or four entirely different jobs merged into one, I can't imagine anyone experienced going for it at the rate they're offering...
Yeah, I have to say I wouldn't be getting out of bed in the morning for the salaries they're offering for any of those roles - and I wouldn't consider myself to be especially highly paid.
In particular, given how in demand tradespeople are at present, you'd wonder how much interest they'll have for the tradespeople roles they're advertising. Maybe they're hoping that supporters will sacrifice a percentage of their potential earnings in return for the opportunity to work for the club.
If those roles are full time the salaries are dreadful. Looks like it is trying to run the club on the cheap rather than it growing.
As I posted, I think the full focus is the first team and really pushing that. That’s where the money lies in football, from sales and transfers. Build the brand, develop and sell players, more for transfers and salaries - money will trickle down to non football roles if the model works. Covid aside, since he took over, you can’t argue the football side of things is working - highest league position, most away wins, finals and semi finals, players with value and interest from down south - the ‘cuts’ are in non football areas so the product on the pitch is better. Ultimately that’s what fans care about, not an electrician salary - exploitative ? Maybe - but sport and football are fickle.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
I’m nervous and excited in equal proportions- but his intentions are good and to make a really really good side.
We are also a club that prides itself on the community outlook we have. I'd want everyone within our own Hibernian Community to be remunerated properly for the work they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
I think mixing the club's community outlook & the salaries it pays is pushing it a bit - we're not talking about minimum wage here.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
If people don't want to apply for the jobs they don't have to. If the club don't get the standard of candidates that it's looking for then they'll have to review the offers.
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Seriously confused at those salaries.
Absolutely. The negativity on this thread is incredible versus what Ron Gordon actually says. I’m an auld git but I love the positivity Gordon is bringing to the club and the proof of the pudding is in the signings, the improved contracts and the stadium improvements. Long may it continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
I’m not negative, love the outlook, just very conscious that you can’t ignore the infrastructure of any business. That’s my only worry about Ron. He’s come from an American focused outlook which is fine - all for growing Hibs and income. But proper investment is also required in non football areas. That’s what moves the whole machine forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee
That's what he's doing though, investing in non football areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Ron's wanting plumbers, electricians, skilled tradesmen ?? That screams Flats to me, those pesky maroon balloons were right all along!! Muppets
I don't think it is pushing it. In fact it feels like they are hoping to get Hibees to work on the cheap just for the kudos of working for the club they love. There is leaning on the community and also trying to take advantage. Ron is an American businessman so perhaps it is to do with how they recruit there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
The going rate for a spark looks to be around £30K and that comes with a van etc in most cases. We are offering 20% less.
He’s investing in things that grow income (screens, additional advertising etc) - all good 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Hibs
I’m talking about other areas - what I heard about (lack of) investment in the pitch is worrying to be honest. That’s an important outlay for a football club.
Without wishing to appear negative, the poster has a point re salaries being offered for non football activities. A decent spark will easily earn at least double what is on offer. Surely as a club we are wanting to entice the best whether that’s football or non football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee
it’s the same with getting fans to volunteer to work at the club. Why not pay a salary for people to do the job? Maybe the people you pay will then buy tickets for the game. How can the club afford big screens but need volunteers to carry out work at the stadium?
Can the big screens play up front?Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
A young lad starting out on his own getting £24k is fantastic. Nobody is expecting someone with 30+ years experience to be going for it. They’ll stick with their higher paid jobs.
Not sure why there is any concern at all, seems 100% positive to me.
Know nothing about it but presume we’ve had contractors etc up until now as I’ve never known us to have our own tradesmen? Nobody knows the hours etc, therefore the salary may well be competitive. If nobody wants them then don’t take them.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
How can there be lack of investment in the pitch?!Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Surely you pay for things when they’re needed. If it’s all good there’s nothing more to spend on?
Besides, it looks fantastic. The Hibs’ ladies goalie was saying it’s like a carpet, best she’s ever played on.
You're ignoring the points I made. You're hinting at exploitation which is definitely pushing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
Exactly. It’s an in-house position. I can’t imagine a plumber or spark are going to be running around 40 hrs a week rushed off their feet. Be a cushty wee gig and maybe get free tickets as a perk or something!Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
These are recurring adverts tho. Not 6 months ago the club were looking for Journalists, Maintenance assistants etc. Again a lot of people commented then about the low salaries.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
The club would possibly be better and cheaper getting in tow with a Facilities provider and only pay on a consumption basis.
It’s like making sausages, I don’t really need to know how they go about their business but everything that’s happened since RG arrived has been positive to me. No reason to doubt him now.
Maybe he’s thought of all options and figured this is the best way to go?
The salary is not competitive in the market place for an approved 18th edition electrician. Maybe a sparks mate but not a spark worth his salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
The proposed investment in the playing surface - from what I’ve been told - is laughable. I’m only passing on what I know - for me, Ron is great, driving the club forward in areas so long neglected. But I just don’t want other areas being forgotten.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
He’s no nonsense - by all accounts he’s also got rid of folk who were merely topping up their pension - which is good. as they weren’t good. I still think you can’t ignore certain areas that’s all.
Yip. Maintenance tradesmen usually earn a lot less but it’s attractive for people because it is an easier gig with regular hours, steady PAYE wage as opposed to self employed everywhere else etc. I know a tradesman who works for Heriots school for way less than he could earn elsewhere but he enjoys the job and isn’t exactly rushed of his feet there.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
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