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22-07-2019, 08:19 AM
SHODAN

Prime Minister Johnson

Two days until the madness begins. How long do we think he'll last, and how much damage do we think he'll do?
22-07-2019, 08:38 AM
marinello59

When we live in a world where Donald Trump has a real chance of getting a second term as US president predicting what will happen next is not going to be easy.:greengrin
I see us heading towards a general election before the end of the year.
22-07-2019, 08:40 AM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by Diclonius

Two days until the madness begins. How long do we think he'll last, and how much damage do we think he'll do?

I think he'll make it to November, unless he punches his bidie-in.
22-07-2019, 08:45 AM
Moulin Yarns

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Originally Posted by marinello59

When we live in a world where Donald Trump has a real chance of getting a second term as US president predicting what will happen next is not going to be easy.:greengrin
I see us heading towards a general election before the end of the year.

I saw Tommy sheppard called on Ian Blackford to move a motion of no confidence before the end of the week.
22-07-2019, 09:43 AM
Bostonhibby

Shortest possible tenure before he drops another one or his own MP's force a no confidence vote, God knows.

He knows how to handle the Iranians though[emoji849]Embarrassment, but a symbol of how far we've declined IMO.

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22-07-2019, 09:44 AM
southsider

Real name is Alexander Boris dePffel Johnson, with a heart the size of a pea.
22-07-2019, 10:14 AM
CloudSquall

If there was a credible opposition he wouldn't be lasting long however he probably fancies his chances in a general election vs Corbyn if he tracks right and eats up the Brexit Party voters.
22-07-2019, 10:28 AM
makaveli1875

He might surprise people and do a decent job
22-07-2019, 10:38 AM
oldbutdim

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Originally Posted by makaveli1875

He might surprise people and do a decent job

He'd DEFINITELY surprise people if he did a decent job.
22-07-2019, 10:55 AM
Smartie

He won't do a decent job. Well, he will, but the perception of what constitutes a good job in little England and what we might consider to be a good job up here are very different things.

Some might say Thatcher did a good job, the same goes for Terry Butcher or Adolf Hitler.
22-07-2019, 11:08 AM
JeMeSouviens

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

I saw Tommy sheppard called on Ian Blackford to move a motion of no confidence before the end of the week.

I don't think it automatically gets parliamentary time unless it comes through the official LOTO, ie. the Corbster.
22-07-2019, 11:17 AM
Lendo

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Originally Posted by Diclonius

Two days until the madness begins. How long do we think he'll last, and how much damage do we think he'll do?

Gone by Christmas
22-07-2019, 11:35 AM
Future17

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Originally Posted by Smartie

He won't do a decent job. Well, he will, but the perception of what constitutes a good job in little England and what we might consider to be a good job up here are very different things.

Some might say Thatcher did a good job, the same goes for Terry Butcher or Adolf Hitler.

Would Thatcher or Hitler have kept us up?
22-07-2019, 01:31 PM
Ozyhibby

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Majority(incl DUP) down to 2 now.

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22-07-2019, 02:16 PM
JeMeSouviens

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Originally Posted by Future17

Would Thatcher or Hitler have kept us up?

Thatch defo - she could lay waste to the defensive spirit of places like Motherwell or Killie without a second thought.

Hitler not so sure - he would've been prone to over-reliance on aerial bombardment, much like Butcher, so probably similar results.
22-07-2019, 05:23 PM
Fife-Hibee

It doesn't matter how awful he is. Johnson won't simply step down and resign. He'll cling on for as long as possible. All the while, Scotland will be at the mercy of this utter cretin while we continue to be too feart to go our seperate ways.
22-07-2019, 05:45 PM
NORTHERNHIBBY

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Originally Posted by Future17

Would Thatcher or Hitler have kept us up?

She hated Argies and strikers so we would have passed on Maradona
22-07-2019, 09:34 PM
Hibernia&Alba

Another Old Etonian. How many British prime ministers went to that school? We call ourselves a democracy, when, actually, accident of birth still plays a huge role in one's chances in life.
22-07-2019, 09:37 PM
Fife-Hibee

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Another Old Etonian. How many British prime ministers went to that school? We call ourselves a democracy, when, actually, accident of birth still plays a huge role in one's chances in life.

Those who call the UK a "democracy" know full well that it isn't. How can it be when an unelected House or Lords and Head of State can completely overrule parliment anyway, should it ever stray in a non-etonian direction?
22-07-2019, 09:51 PM
James310

David Cameron was the first PM to go to Eton since 1964, so the people who 'fix' these things are clearly not up to the job. They even let a Kirkcaldy High School pupil slip through
22-07-2019, 09:55 PM
Fife-Hibee

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Originally Posted by James310

David Cameron was the first PM to go to Eton since 1964, so the people who 'fix' these things are clearly not up to the job. They even let a Kirkcaldy High School pupil slip through

Yeah, an academic "hothouse education" only available to the privileged few. :rolleyes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Brown#Education
22-07-2019, 10:02 PM
James310

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

Yeah, an academic "hothouse education" only available to the privileged few. :rolleyes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Brown#Education

Privileged in that he was highly academic? Was it a fee paying programme at the school?

You do know there are privately educated SNP MPs. Does that make them part of the privileged few as well?
22-07-2019, 10:05 PM
Hibernia&Alba

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Originally Posted by James310

David Cameron was the first PM to go to Eton since 1964, so the people who 'fix' these things are clearly not up to the job. They even let a Kirkcaldy High School pupil slip through

Then the next but one after Cameron is another from said school. In addition, how many Tory cabinet ministers (and of other parties too) were Old Etonians or alumni of other public schools? The idea of equality of opportunity, which all politicians seem to feel they must support in principle, is just a platitude. The class system is still hugely important in this country, and it's shameful. Accident of birth remains a very important determinant of what a person can expect from life.
22-07-2019, 10:06 PM
Fife-Hibee

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Originally Posted by James310

Privileged in that he was highly academic? Was it a fee paying programme at the school?

No mention of whether it costs or not. But seeing as it's a specialized service not offered to all public school children, then it would stand to reason that it would come at a cost.
22-07-2019, 10:09 PM
James310

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

No mention of whether it costs or not. But seeing as it's a specialized service not offered to all public school children, then it would stand to reason that it would come at a cost.

Do you know it was not offered to all children?

Sounds like any child that was academically gifted could be on the scheme. So opportunity for all if you had the ability.
22-07-2019, 10:20 PM
Fife-Hibee

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Originally Posted by James310

Do you know it was not offered to all children?

Sounds like any child that was academically gifted could be on the scheme. So opportunity for all if you had the ability.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hothousing

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Originally Posted by Wiki

The goal is to take "normal" or bright children and boost them to a level of intellectual functioning above the norm.

So it's not just simply available to gifted children, but any child. (With parents/guardians who presumably have enough money).
22-07-2019, 10:24 PM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hothousing

So it's not just simply available to gifted children, but any child. (With parents/guardians who presumably have enough money).

You're from Fife. Shirley you know whether Kirkcaldy High School was a fee-paying school? :confused:
22-07-2019, 10:29 PM
James310

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hothousing

So it's not just simply available to gifted children, but any child. (With parents/guardians who presumably have enough money).

I still don't see where having enough money comes into it, especially when Kirkcaldy HS was a public school. His father was a Minister so not exactly a city boy rolling in it.
22-07-2019, 10:36 PM
Hibernia&Alba

Big Gordon Broon didn't attend public school. Blair did of course.
22-07-2019, 10:37 PM
Mibbes Aye

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Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee

It doesn't matter how awful he is. Johnson won't simply step down and resign. He'll cling on for as long as possible. All the while, Scotland will be at the mercy of this utter cretin while we continue to be too feart to go our seperate ways.

Scots as victims and Scots as cowards you say.

What a compelling picture of Scottishness :greengrin

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