First Minister's comments on NL abuse

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Originally Posted by hughio

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Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
"I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
"Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."

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Originally Posted by Elephant Stone

Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
"I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
"Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."

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So will they take any any type of measures to stop this from happening again? Or is it just more rhetoric?

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Originally Posted by Weegreenman

So will they take any any type of measures to stop this from happening again? Or is it just more rhetoric?

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Was just going to say the same. Its a pretty bold statement but what have the Scottish Government done about it to date?

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Originally Posted by Elephant Stone

Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
"I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
"Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."

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Is that the James Kelly that campaigned for the abolition
of the OBFA?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-sco...of-neil-lennon

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Originally Posted by Weegreenman

So will they take any any type of measures to stop this from happening again? Or is it just more rhetoric?

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There are already laws in place to take action , it's the Police who need to act on it.

Well said Nicola! No one deserves to get the grief Neil Lennon does.

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Originally Posted by Elephant Stone

Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
"I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
"Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."

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So what action are they going to “continue to take”?

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Originally Posted by Elephant Stone

Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
"I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
"Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."

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So Nicola has a hibstv subscription ;-)

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Originally Posted by GloryGlory

Is that the James Kelly that campaigned for the abolition
of the OBFA?

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Pretty sure it is, oh the irony.

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Originally Posted by Not In The Know

So Nicola has a hibstv subscription ;-)

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Maybe her hubby does who I think is a Hibby.

Heartening to hear that response from the First Mininster.

Maybe Hibs should issue a similar statement in support of our Manager?

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Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes

Heartening to hear that response from the First Mininster.

Maybe Hibs should issue a similar statement in support of our Manager?

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I reckon it's really poor that they haven't.

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

Pretty sure it is, oh the irony.

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It’s not ironic at all. That bill didn’t do anything to stop sectarianism. ‘Offensive’ behaviour could be anything and found people getting arrested for standing up and shouting ‘**** off’ to a player. There are already powers there to deal with sectarianism that are not used.

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Originally Posted by Elephant Stone

Labour MSP James Kelly asked Ms Sturgeon whether she would join him in condemning "anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism", and called for the government to take urgent action against these "unacceptable attitudes".
The First Minister replied: "I saw some of Neil Lennon's press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity.


Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer.
"I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry.
"Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don't have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear."

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Well said, now let's see some action

Maybe they could introduce a law targetting sectarianism, and other unnaceptable behaviour, at football matches.

Oh wait, they already did, and everybody criticised it endlessly...especially the Labour Party

"Continue" to take action.

Same as the radio adverts a few months ago about there being no place in Scotland for Secteranism etc, just empty rhetoric at the moment as far as I can see. :dunno:

Eureka. Right Nicola, words sorted. Deeds next?

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Eureka. Right Nicola, words sorted. Deeds next?

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Exactly. Talk is cheap. Action sorts stuff out.

I’d have a bit more respect if she called out the SFA for silently condoning years and years of bigotry and doing next to nothing.

Very disappointing, empty statements from a well respected leader. No actual specific proposals for what they’re going to do about it.

It’ll end up with nothing happening. Yet again.

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Eureka. Right Nicola, words sorted. Deeds next?

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The lass is not daft, speak out about it then sweep sweep sweep it all away, she isn't going to get into things like wee eck said, " we will eradicate this from Scottish football " :rolleyes:

Would seem that Lennon isn't going to drop this until some kind of action is taken, Leeann Dempster really needs to back the manager on the matter and call out the authorities to do something about it.

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

The lass is not daft, speak out about it then sweep sweep sweep it all away, she isn't going to get into things like wee eck said, " we will eradicate this from Scottish football " :rolleyes:

Would seem that Lennon isn't going to drop this until some kind of action is taken, Leeann Dempster really needs to back the manager on the matter and call out the authorities to do something about it.

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Originally Posted by hibbydog

Exactly. Talk is cheap. Action sorts stuff out.

I’d have a bit more respect if she called out the SFA for silently condoning years and years of bigotry and doing next to nothing.

Very disappointing, empty statements from a well respected leader. No actual specific proposals for what they’re going to do about it.

It’ll end up with nothing happening. Yet again.

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Although it would not be a government initiative I think Hibs should issue a statement saying that bigotry has no place at Easter Road.

In the event of a club’s supporters indulging in it then they will not receive a ticket allocation for the next match.

Lead by example and support our manager at the same time.

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Originally Posted by hibbydog

Exactly. Talk is cheap. Action sorts stuff out.

I’d have a bit more respect if she called out the SFA for silently condoning years and years of bigotry and doing next to nothing.

Very disappointing, empty statements from a well respected leader. No actual specific proposals for what they’re going to do about it.

It’ll end up with nothing happening. Yet again.

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What do you suggest she "does"?

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Originally Posted by PatHead

Although it would not be a government initiative I think Hibs should issue a statement saying that bigotry has no place at Easter Road.

In the event of a club’s supporters indulging in it then they will not receive a ticket allocation for the next match.

Lead by example and support our manager at the same time.

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I agree 100%, and I am a bit disappointed at our club's silence (again) on the matter.

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

The lass is not daft, speak out about it then sweep sweep sweep it all away, she isn't going to get into things like wee eck said, " we will eradicate this from Scottish football " :rolleyes:

Would seem that Lennon isn't going to drop this until some kind of action is taken, Leeann Dempster really needs to back the manager on the matter and call out the authorities to do something about it.

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The authorities, as in the football authorities or the government?

If it's the former, that's the clubs, who have collectively sat on their hands and refused to accept any sort of liability. Up to a point, you can understand why, as clubs' income might be at risk. Albeit that completely ignores social and community responsibility.

If it's the latter, there is a bill working its way through Parliament that will force strict liability on the clubs. Whilst that may be a welcome step, my worry is how it will be enforced by the ...cough... authorities.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

There are already laws in place to take action , it's the Police who need to act on it.

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How many got charged by the Police for sectarianism??

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

The authorities, as in the football authorities or the government?

If it's the former, that's the clubs, who have collectively sat on their hands and refused to accept any sort of liability. Up to a point, you can understand why, as clubs' income might be at risk. Albeit that completely ignores social and community responsibility.

If it's the latter, there is a bill working its way through Parliament that will force strict liability on the clubs. Whilst that may be a welcome step, my worry is how it will be enforced by the ...cough... authorities.

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Football authorities

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

Pretty sure it is, oh the irony.

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Nah not really.

OBFA was an absurd piece of legislation, a classic effort from politicians desperate to be seen to ‘do something’ without considereing unintended consequences.

As said above, Scotland already has laws against this kind of abuse. What is needed is a determination to act upon them.