What a horrific case.
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/to...and.5604804.jp
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What a horrific case.
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/to...and.5604804.jp
Words can't actually describe just how sickening that is. :bitchy:
It'll be very interesting to see what punishment they get, since we're talking about a 13 year old and two 14 year olds.
To me, that should be life imprisonment for something like that. By the sounds of it, they have pretty much ruined that girl's life.
Just a truly horrendous story.
3 years in a Y.O. unit, a HUGE DOSE of councilling and a couple of trips white water rafting.Quote:
Originally Posted by FalkirkHibee
Theres absolutely no need to have that level of detail reported in the newspapers. Theres no 'public interest'.
Agree, made me sick reading it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Hopefully the victim can get on with her life in some way and the attackers are given a long sentance.
I think it's important we know what people as young as that are capable of.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Terrible stuff. The neds really are getting beyond a joke in Scotland :bitchy:
How any court can pass anything other than a heavy prison sentence will be beyond me.
That is horrific, absolutely shocked by reading that. I only hope the young girl can recover from this ordeal.
Exactly. They're clearly old enough to perpetrate a sickening crime like that so they can be punished as criminals, which is what they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by moff1875
The neds are getting sicker by the day.
IIRC there were two young lads down south tried to hand another boy from a tree only a couple of months ago.
Was shocked when i read this..
Why anyone would want to do that to another person is frightening, even worse when they are all so young..
Throws up another issue though, why are 14 year old girls being allowed to go "Up town" anyway..
At that age i wasn't allowed any further than 5-10 mins from my house..
Doesn't in any way, shape or form excuse what she was subjected too right enough..
Don't know about you but I wasn't kept on a lead when I was 14 and managed to not be beaten with a stilleto in an underground car park after venturing further than 10 minutes from my house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Number_10
Perhaps she stayed in town and the omni was 5/10 minutes away.
Sorry for getting on at you but it seems like you're somehow implying that this is partly the girls parents fault, which IMO, is utter BS.
Pretty sure I was allowed up town at 14 - didn't really go up there at night, but still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Number_10
Agree with that, though the report doesn't make it clear whether the victim was one of the group of cider-drinking youngsters who were thrown out of the cinema, or a stranger to that group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody1985
The Top of the Walk is full of shockingly drunk young girls at weekend nights. It's a bad place to be then.
Can only imagine what it would've been like in a cinema with these cider drinking cretins :grr:
What is it with young folk these days? I might've had the odd cider down the park, but I think the worst it got was playing 'tap door run' - not getting chucked out of cinemas and attacking people to within an inch of their lives! :bitchy:
disgusting little cretins:bitchy:
worrying times, i have a 14 year old neice who's mates are always at her to go up the town.......
Life imprisonment is a extremely harsh for this crime considering it was perpretrated by juveniles. The crime is very serious but to suggest such a punishment in a complete overreaction to the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by FalkirkHibee
Why? They could easily have killed her. How long do you think it'll take for the victim to recover from her ordeal (if she ever does)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Mikey
I'd rather that people capable of committing such acts weren't walking the streets.
If I got my hands on someone that had done that to one of my friends or family members, I'd probably risk prison myself.
behave yourself.....this girl will have to live with this for her whole LIFE, so why should they get any less? I hope the little sh*ts are beaten to an inch of their lives or worst in prison & see how they feel being demoralised & frightened. PC brigade does my nut in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Mikey
:grr::grr::grr::grr:
Going by your logic it would be life imprisonment that you would be risking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor®
Don't get me wrong this is a very serious crime and should be met with strong punishment however to imprison 14 yr olds for the rest of their life is too extreme. Do you think it is right that they would be facing circa 70 years of incarceration for one crime?
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Originally Posted by Woody1985
Why is that not the case?
Behave yourself:grr:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gus
You are saying that because these people have comitted a crime you are advocating that they be assaulted as punishment.
You are so outraged by this crime that you wish to see it comitted again but against the original perpretrators...an eye for an eye. So all muggers should be mugged, all rapsists be raped, all murders should be murdered? Who carries out these punishments for you?
PC brigade:faf: I don't think that life inprisonment (for certain crimes) and advocating violent reprisals against criminals is an effective form of justice.
You're a lunatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gus
I've posted this before and it pertains to the James Bulger case in particular (hopefully this doesn't derail the thread) but I think it's a fantastic piece on how violent crime committed by children should/shouldn't be treated by society as a whole...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/feb/06/bulger.ukcrime
If my daughter was the victim then that's exactly what I'd be looking for. Just because I don't know the lassie it doesn't mean I'm going to change my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Mikey
Really? I think that's exactly what you/we should be doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor®
Absolutely despicable & disgusting assault..i can only hope that whatever punishment is meted out to those "sicko's" by the courts it is the correct one & not one iota of remorse is shown to them wherever they end up ..they are nothing but **** !!
Tough!Quote:
Originally Posted by LiverpoolHibs
This was an attempted murder and sexual assault carried out and filmed over a 45 minute period.
They're evil little *******s who knew exactly what they were doing and should be removed from society at large.
Would be surprised if they got put in prison for this. Will probably be a secure unit for a few years with all the perks that involves - day jollys here and there, holidays abroad etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gus
Well done for not getting into any bother whilst up town at that age but i know/heard of plenty incidents of kids getting jumped/reeking/attacked etc that would certainly make sure if i had kids that age i wouldn't be letting them go up there..Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody1985
I went up a few times when older 15-16 and got into bother, fighting , chased, drunken nonsense to know that it's defo not a good place for young kids..
Would you be happy with your 13-14 year old daughter going up town at night?Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve-O
Why are they up there in the 1st place?Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
My 1st post genuinely wasn't a go at the girls parents, just a question regarding the vast amounts of young teens that now seem to hang about the town reeking..
It's not all about "letting" them go up town but actually sitting down, talking and educating them about the dangers and consequences of drinking,being in the town centre at night, putting themselves in vulnerable situations etc..
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In the early hours of the following morning police were called to a disturbance at a young person's unit on the other side of Edinburgh and found the brunette without her shoes and covered in dried blood.
She told them she had been drinking cider and had a fight with a girl who was "being wide."
The blonde was found by police the following day after being reported as a missing person
Young persons unit? Whats that? It sounds like at least 2 of them were in care of some kind or another. It also reads like the girl who was attacked was with them.
Doesn't make any difference to the horrendous time the girl went through though and I hope they are severly punished. Life would only mean 10 years anyway so there is no point in arguing over that. They would still be in their mid 20's when released.
I have posted in the heat of the moment. So I apologise for that & I certainly can't say i condone any sort of violence what so ever. But after reading the article I was & still am very angry. As the justice system as a whole in this country is wrong IMO & this girl has got to live with the horrors of this brutal assault for the rest of her life......this cannot be changed but some sort of justice has to be served. This is where my vigilante head comes in to play, it is not right nor is it big nor clever but its still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Mikey
I hope her family & friends help her get through this & that correct justice is dished out. Nice comfy bed, PS2 & trips away are not the answer but this is what they will get.
But if this was a family member or close friend that had been put through this, then YES I beleive in an eye for an eye
What Punishment would suffice for you?