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Yes I am getting ahead of myself after only one leg. Does anyone know much about our likely opponents for the next leg and how do you fancy out chances? I don’t know anything about them really however would like to think we can better the team that came 3rd in the Croatian league.
Also are we in the groups if we beat them or is there a further knockout round?
Theyre a good side I think. Close game.
Not finished outside of the top 3 since 2011/12 including a league title in 2017. They qualified for the group stages of last seasons Europa league finishing last in their group with 4 points (Napoli, Sociedad, AZ Alkmaar). So clearly a consistent club who are also no pushovers at Europa League level.
They played Aberdeen in Europa qualifying in 2019 and beat them 2-0 comfortably in both legs.
Think it will be a very tricky tie, and one we’ll need to be at our best to have a chance of progressing.
I wouldn't be confident in a Scotland v Croatia international match, so 3rd in our league against 3rd in their's...[emoji848]. It's going to be a tough one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
We will not progress further in this tournament. They are a better, more experienced side. Glorious narrow defeat is the best we can hope for here.
I would think the best we could hope for is 6-2 win away and a 7-0 win at home? 🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Conceding 2 away from home? Sack the boardQuote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
How do we think this team compare to asteras tripolis..? Any European Football experts here... :wink:
Based on what? Results you have seen from them in the last few years or actually having seen them playQuote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
IMO any team which has played regularly in Europe invariably know how to deal with the atmosphere and referee. Gamesmanship, keeping the head or riling up the opposition and ability to put pressure on the ref cannot be underestimated. Have too often seen the better side beaten by streetwise opposition in Europe. It's very different to playing domestic matches.
If we beat Rijeka there's a play off round after that and then it's the group stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
I'd class them in the same bracket as Dnipro and Maribor. Very tough tie.
Not an expert by any means but the Greek league is much stronger than the Croatian league. For all the talent they have in their national team, they mostly play abroad and come out the Zagreb academies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve88
It will be a tough tie, but I'm not writing us off.
Every post a troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
We will pump them.
If we perform as we can we should have a chance. In 2019 the Sheep played the home leg (0-2) with 10 men for 70 mins and were abject per the BBC match report. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49324014 Might help lull the Croats into thinking we'll be easy opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarMan10
No reason why we can't beat them over 2 legs. If we can keep solid defensively, we've got the attacking players there that can score goals against pretty much anyone.
Unsure how possible it is, or if he'd need to isolate or whatever, but if we can even get Mueller in ahead of that tie, that could be an even bigger boost.
Conversely, Scotland are currently the 9th best league in Europe and Croatia the 14th which is a better indicator of league strength than how good the national team is. However nearly all our coefficient points come from the old firm whereas Rijeka have picked up a lot for their league in recent years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Not so sure about that, think they're about level these days. Zagreb have done about as well, if not better than Olympiacos in Europe in recent years and Rijeka have done better than AEK, PAOK etc. Greek league is currently only ranked 20th in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
Rijeka have made the groups a couple of times in recent years and as another poster said always come in the top 3 and have won a title recently as well. Tripolis are often a mid table side, regularly finishing 8th or 9th.
Think they will be the toughest side we've faced in Europe in a while (take Haaland away from Molde and they were nothing special) and will be a slight step up from Tripolis or Brondy imo.
Just having a look at their European record the last few seasons confirms we are in for a tough game. Regularly make the Europa League group stages & have knocked out some decent teams (Stuttgart, RB Salzburg, Copenhagen) along the way.
I dont think the croatian league is reflective of the national team. Most top players play outwith croatia. Still a very tough game but definitely winnable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Shame we won’t even be allowed 10k for this game.
Well we struggled to sell 4k for this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by HendoDelivered
Neither of which we progressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
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There was over 4600 there… 3 tickets away from max allocation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Not impossible but we will very much be underdogs IMO.
I think a lot of people probably didn't even try to get a ticket though, like when I see there is a limited capacity of 4600 or whatever and know we have 10k plus season ticket holders more dedicated than me, I just automatically assumed there was no point in me even trying to go to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
why would we think we were better given the general excellent technical quality of Croatian players. Tight game but we will need to be way better than last night especially first half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Anyone know the dates for this possible game ?
Eh? The first batch of tickets sold out in less than 15 minutes and there were only 3 no shows in almost 5000. Don’t see many signs of a struggle there. As an aside it was brilliant, almost surreal to be back after nearly 18 months away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Hopefully Hibs go into any tie thinking that it's winnable, but it'll definitely be tough.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIXIHIBS
Home 5th August away 12th augustQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
I’d be surprised if we won it from looking at their record.
They’ll be strong favourites. Not an impossible task but it’ll take a huge effort and a lot of luck I reckon.
Qualifying for a group stage would be game-changing for us but looking at Rijeka and the round beyond, the quality we would have to get past to get there shows how tough it is to reach the group stage in any of these UEFA competitions. On the other hand, clubs of equivalent stature to us (or lower) seem to qualify pretty regularly so it's clearly not impossible. I guess the first step is putting yourself in the position every year and fingers crossed one day the stars align.
So if we don’t get through this next round do we drop down to the Europa Conference group stage immediately?
Hate to break it to you mate but we're already in the Europa Conference League.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
I think we go into the champions league 🥂Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
They beat Wolfsburg pre season friendly 3-1, a better guide will be when they play Dinamo Zagreb on the 1st of August. They are a good side and comments such as "we will pump them" show a complete disregard of their quality.
Oooft....this is awkward!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
Think I detect sarcasm in his response :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
Got to be said the place Rijeka looks a beautiful place. Would have been a fantastic trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
https://www.inyourpocket.com/rijeka/basics
The results in this link give you an idea of their quality. They beat Dinamo twice in 2020 but also lost heavily in the league to them. They will be clear favourites looking at their European pedigree.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ri...6y24;mt;fp;1;;
In 2018 they had 1 player, Filip Bradaric, in Croatia's World Cup squad. They didn't have any players at 2021 Euros.
A lot will depend on us still having our key players particularly Martin Boyle.
hahaha, ****. I thought last night was the Europa League. I’m clearly on another planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
I thought Aberdeen would struggle last night, and they proved us very wrong. Barring a major collapse in Andorra, I wouldn’t write off our chances.
Yeh them 3 tickets didn't sell because they had to self iscolate I saw them on twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HendoDelivered
😂 would have been if we won the cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
Being a huge pessimist I never gave us much of a chance against Asteras. How wrong I was.
It's not beyond us but if I was being realistic I don't think we'll go any further.
This. Whilst I'd of course love to see us progress, whatever the result I just want to see us given a good account of ourselves and come away without any regrets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Wonder if their fans forum is saying the same about Arsenal and our opening game at Motherwell?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
Course they are, they’re ****ting themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
I like that idea, wish it was a fact🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by AliboyFC
Match was, however, sold out and three people failed to trap. Happens even in derby games, there’s always more tickets sold than attendees
Also had wins in the group stages over AC Milan, Austria Vienna, Feyenoord, Standard Liege and AZ Alkmaar. Drew 2-2 with a Sevilla team who went on to win the competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRA
A club who have far more European experience than we have in recent years. A tough match indeed.
Gutted we won’t have an official allocation and that sitting in the home end sounds very much a no-go after a bit research. Quite easy to get there via London. Looks like some place which would have meant it would have been some trip :boo hoo:
Yep it’ll be tough but I definitely think we are far better as the underdog and when teams come at us. Our ability to break so quickly is our biggest asset.Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
Reckon 3-5-2 against them may be the way to go. We look fatr more secure with 3 especially when Daz sits in the middle just behind the other 2
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Think our team is better than it was when we played those games. Can only hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
I agree and a better manager as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
This team is better than the side Mowbray had at his disposal when we played Dnipro?(And I know we got pumped.)Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
I don’t know about better but we’re more defensively solid and for European games I suspect that’ll stand us in better stead.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Being an open attacking team would leave gaps that are quite easily exploited by better teams.
I don’t mean that in a negative way about this side, it’s just how I see us now.
There’s no away goals this year either is there?
Looks like they drew with Real Sociedad and beat AZ Alkmar in 2020 so we will have our work cut out for us.
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Not that I want to be a Debbie Downer but they should be knocking us out with ease based on their European record in recent years.
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Originally Posted by Clarence
Fair enough. But don’t forget that we are untested and an unknown quantity in Europe with our present team. Let’s keep our chin up and give it our best shot. :hibeesQuote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
Agree with all of this, a good summaryQuote:
Originally Posted by Fergus52
Good post OnionQuote:
Originally Posted by Onion
As well as playing to the best of their ability Hibs players require to have their cool adult heads on at all times so as not to get drawn into needless conflict and gamesmanship.
A big jump in quality from the current round but we could win if we don't get suckered.
Official attendance at the game was 4697Quote:
Originally Posted by HendoDelivered
Not sure if we will beat them or not ( hoping we do ). However I’m glad we’re in Europe and getting there at least gives us more experience for our next European game/adventure.
GGTTH
They've said he won't be here until January after Orlando's season is finished. Don't think we'll see him right away, at least not until after Chris Mueller's Day Off. Mueller....Mueller...Mueller...Quote:
Originally Posted by Souter96Mac
Unless you were unable to get tickets, you’d have no issues attending the game in the home end. The “radges” for all clubs congregate together (typically behind the goals on the continent). Avoid these fans and you’d be absolutely fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
100% correct. Seen it in Europe since the sixties🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Looking at their 2020/21 top 5 goalscorers on Wiki. 1 player (14 goals) off to China, 2 players (10 and 8 goals) to Dinamo Zagreb. That leaves Robert Muric (12 goals) and Josip Drmic, Swiss international on loan from Norwich (7 goals). Don't know if it's a cost-cutting but it looks like they might be weaker than last season.
Interesting that people think we have a better team now than we did then. Player for player I would say we don’t. We had a shocking keeper(s) back then and undoubted flaws in that Mowbray squad, but it was largely the group that went on to win the League cup in 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
Even the team that got pumped in the away leg in Dnipro had some serious quality in it….maybe no so much the subs’ bench right enough! Can’t remember why now but Scott Brown was also absent.
Hibernian: Malkowski, Beuzelin (Fletcher 66), Caldwell, Murphy, O'Connor (Morrow 77), Riordan, Sproule, Stewart (Shiels 72), Hogg, Thomson, Whittaker.
Subs Not Used: Simon Brown, Glass, Konte, Rudge.
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No way is this team better than Mowbray's. Not even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
No again. And not even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
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Originally Posted by Gmack7
Isn't it amazing the huge jump in class from this round to the next?
My thoughts on Rijeka? They should be technically and tactically ahead of us, sure we can match them for athleticism and passion but remember Croatia at this time of year is generally very hot and they will be much more adapt at playing in furnace conditions.
I would imagine that over the two legs the game could pan out in the same way as the recent Scotland v Croatia Euro match where the Scots were taught a lesson or two and made to look bang average.
Of course I hope I'm wrong, I know on our day we can be very proficient and play some good stuff, maybe I'm doing our club and domestic game a disservice?
If Rijeka have offloaded some players for decent €s it's maybe to help fund the rebuild of their stadium. Are they not the club who's ground is sandwiched between a cliff and the water, with one end overlooking the town? Incredibly picturesque but totally ramshackled. I'm sure there is an amazing redevelopment planned that will not be cheap!
Looks like they had some decent results in the Europa League last year.
Beat Copenhagen 1-0 in the playoff round which would be a similar standard of opposition to when we played Brondby a few years back (a tie we should have won). Lost their first four group games and looks like they scraped a couple of results in the last couple, against decent opposition though.
Definitely don’t think it’s the worst draw we could have got and definitely think we have a chance of going through.
First three paragraphs are bang on with my thoughts on this tie. I’m looking forward to the game more than any game for a long time (forget about May) but I’m realistic about our chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
I would rate this game 50/50, yes they are a good team but they have had 7 players leave who were mostly on loan. Yes they will be a good team but what they did 2, 5 or 10 years ago is irrelevant. It’s the team they have now that i am concerned about, i am sure nobody on here knows how good or bad a team they really are. We will find out soon enough
I doubt that they will be overly concerned about playing us but we have a chance.
We don't have a great record in Central Europe. Videoton is the only victory I can recall. Be good to break that streak.
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They’ve been playing temporarily at another ground for 5 or 6 years now. The old stadium is owned by the city and is being refurbished but not sure how much a contribution - if any - the club will be making to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
Croatia would have been a barry trip beautiful country
Anyone going remember to take their currency
That really would have been a great trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
Shame:confused:
Sorry was talking pishQuote:
Originally Posted by CMurdoch
Should be a good trip �� ������������
I take it, if both us and Rijeka get through to the next round. They will be the seeded side and the second leg of the tie will be a home game for them. Is that right or wrong
Playing now in the league against Istra1961.
Stream on hesgoal
They’re at home second purely because of the way the draw came out rather than due to them being seeded.Quote:
Originally Posted by badabing67
How do they look?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Soprano
Good technically as expected, move the ball quickly and, they like ball over the top of the defence and are accurate with them as well. Should be at least 2 or 3 up, 4 good chances, 1 an absolute sitter. Half time 0-0. Not familiar with the opposition but they finished 9th in Croatian league so riejka looking to win comfortably anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
Will definitely be a tough game should we play them would need to stay switched on, think we could struggle in the away leg.
Live on Bet365 too. Half time just now, 0-0. Not watched it but the stats say Rijeka are on top in terms of possession and corners.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
that was never offside
VAR was wrong
Yeah hard done by there, great ball as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
finally 1-0 after 79 mins
Thanks for infoQuote:
Originally Posted by hibbysam
2-0
and missed a penalty
FT shoulda coulda been a few more
2 great headers by Drmic, will need to mark him tightly from balls in from out wide.
Would have been a corking trip in Croatia
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I like our defence, but balls over the top are often our undoing, and certainly an aspect that Hanlon and Porteous have struggled on. I’d like to think we’ve got a chance, but that’s an area I’d be looking at working on, providing we don’t suffer an unthinkable arse-collapse in Andorra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Soprano
Well impressed that you guys watched the Rijeka game today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Soprano
When I looked at their players backstories last week Drmic was the guy that stood out.
28 year old Swiss International striker with 10 goals in 35 caps, on loan from Norwich, played in the German Bundesliga for 7 seasons.
The 2 great headers today confirms him as the man to stop.