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Great day of rugby today for those who enjoy their sportsmen to just get on with playing and not pretending to be injured😀 Just watched NZ cuff France, now Australia v Ireland, England v SA later, Scotland in Canada in the wee small hours. Alloa Rugby Club ball tonight as well. Will most likely watch Scotland tomorrow while nursing a hangover. Paris sevens on as well
Interesting case here in Scottish rugby. Ex director of Domestic rugby and Finn Russell's dad wins tribunal case for wrongful dismissal describing SRU environment as toxic. Quite bizarre.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/amp/rugby-...mpression=true
I thought France were unfortunate to lose Fall so early. I don't think it was a red. They fought bravely despite it but it was a pretty scrappy affair.
Didn't see France v NZ and just back to see the start of 2nd half of SA v England. Boks looking strong, England missing lots of tackles. This SA side were awful just a few months ago. Argentina v Wales could be good later
Stayed up a bit later than I would normally, to catch the USA-Scotland game.
Early into the second half and the US showing up well. Strong and athletic, but sometimes a bit too eager which leads them into problems with high tackles or offside.
Their hooker has been outstanding offensively.
£30 on USA @ 10/1....
pheewww missed conversion, as expected
30-29 USA
£330 thank ya very much, Scotland were utterly pathetic in that 2nd half, men against wee girls and USA fully deserved the win, scotland were cruising at 21-6 tae :agree:
Bit of a shocker from Scotland this, although I was very impressed with USA. They were aggressive and athletic as you might expect but I was surprised at how good their game management was.
Their hooker was great as was MacGinty who ran the show. Compare that with Hastings who, whilst he had some nice touches, never controlled the game like an experienced 10 would.
We could have nicked it at the end bit would have been totally undeserved. Just goes to highlight the lack of strength in depth in our squad.
All Blacks are a total machine. Currently dismantling a French team who were playing ok in the first half.
Australia v Ireland up next. Series decider. Another good game to look forward to
Irelanda with a series win down under. Good result for them
England up next, fingers crossed for another defeat and a series whitewash. Would be great to see that arrogant test Jones on the end of that
Ireland are absolutely incredible at the moment.
Really hope the bokke whitewash England this afternoon and that Scotland can bounce back against Argentina.
Argentina have been pretty poor in their last 2 tests against Wales. We were good but they made us look amazing.
Thank God their is another rugby fan on here amongst all the savages! Felt like I was talking to myself😀Quote:
Originally Posted by nellio
Yeah Argentina are not great at the moment but Scotland's new boys didn't look too clever last week. Better to have a stronger side this week
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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Think townsend experimented a little bit too much in the USA game, although it’s a tough balance to strike, when many of the big names/first choice players aren’t on tour
Agree, I think the team v USA should have been the one that played Canada and vice versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by McD
England / SA. Crap conditions, crap game, crap result. Eddie Jones will still be an arrogant twat
Welsh mate it's in the blood! Keep it quiet but I was watching rugby well before I was watching footie!!Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Scotland are a great price to beat Argentina. I've put a tenner on. The USA game was a blip.
Do you ever go watch Edinburgh?
Yeah occasionally but not as often as I'd like. When I'm not at Hibs I'm still heavily involved with my local club so end up there more than Murrayfield. I've known some of the Edinburgh boys since they were kids as the started off playing at Alloa and I played with their dads and uncles.Quote:
Originally Posted by nellio
I have been a few times but found Edinburgh too expensive to go regularly. They've reduced the prices for next season though for pro 14 and kept them the same for champions cup so will go a lot more.
I go to watch Scotland a lot. It's fantastic value compared to watching Wales.
We go to Swansea every two years as a club for the six nations, been doing that for years. Going down for the Doddie Weir game in autumn as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by nellio
To be honest I'd rather support my own home town club than Edinburgh or Glasgow anyway. Good to go to the pro games occasionally though but have more connection to my own club
Argentina 0 Scotland 21 after just 13 mins :hyper
wtf's going on
3-28 after 21 mins, the chucking rain maybe making us feel at home :)
Been some game so far. Helps that Argentina’s team are playing just as well as their football team.
Possibly the worst Argentina team I have seen in at least 20 years. Scotland playing well tho and are putting them away and being ruthless. Good first half
3-36 at HT, the all-blacks couldn't handle us tonight
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Originally Posted by David_D
at least their rugby boys have managed 3 points
I told you they were awful at the moment!!Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
1st half was brilliant to watch. We seemed to score try after try every time we attacked. Argentina were very poor. They were a little better in the 2nd half but the game was already over by then. Looking forward to the autumn tests.
No Hibs game yesterday so travelled down to Jedburgh to watch Musselburgh in a top of the table National League 1 clash.
Don’t know the last time Jed lost at home but they were well beaten yesterday by a superb performance.
The commitment and skill on show was a pleasure to watch although I was wincing at some of the challenges 😂
After 9 games Burgh and Jed jointly top the league. I’m pretty sure most clubs pay the players but Musselburgh play for nowt !!
Would recommend popping down to watch them if interested in RU. Very good standard and you can take your pint to the game :greengrin
They’re doing really well this season but I bet some of them get paid by “sponsors”.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeg
Are you ITK Danderhall ? I know they got win bonuses last season but apparently that stopped.
Ironic really as they have already won more games this season and not half way through yet :greengrin
Not any more - I used to be. Just didn’t think they’d have went from paying “signing on fees” (like they did 15-20 years ago) to nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeg
Bet they’re gutted they scrapped the win bonus! What did they replace it with?
Got tickets for the South Africa game in 2 weeks. Can’t wait!
Watching the Fiji game on TV. There are lines of beer bottles along the trackside wall. Folk swigging away quite happily. Seems a world apart.
Very good performance from Scotland today, 2nd half especially. Watching this Scotland rugby team is an absolute pleasure compared to the national football team who are an abysmal joke!
Fantastic atmosphere coming across from Murrayfield today, it was great to see a capacity crowd v Fiji. The marketing guys hard work is starting to pay off and we have every reason to be optimistic about the future performances of our national team.
Went yesterday. Scotland really clinical and seem to have eliminated errors from their game.
SA next week will be a big test for them. Will be close that one. Looking forward to going.
Anyone been or going to Vegas for the 7’s on Feb/March?
Clinical second half thought first half they looked defensively poor and Fiji scored with pretty much any attack they had.Quote:
Originally Posted by nellio
The tries they scored did indeed look easy, but it was individual errors rather than the entire defense being inept. It made such a difference to us (from the Wales game last week) having Finn, Hoggy and Laidlaw back in the fold.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
The South Africa game will be an excellent test for us this weekend, and I'm looking forward to experiencing another "lights out" game at Murrayfield. Hopefully we can continue from where we left off in the second half on Saturday.
Think it will be a great game. Really enjoy watching Scotland at the moment, great style of play and some amazing players. Thought Russell's passing was excellent on Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
I’m also looking forward to the South Africa game. Going to be an excellent match against a team that has regained its form and confidence after the dismal Allister Coetzee reign. The atmosphere on a Saturday night game is always a cracking experience! New Zealand game from last year stands out for me as one of the best along with the England 6 Nations game this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Since Finn Russell’s move to Racing 92, his game has come on leaps and bounds. He was signed to replace All Blacks legend Dan Carter who has moved to Japan and from what I’ve seen he doesn’t look out of place in that French League at all. Saturdays performance showed he looks a more mature player and is only going to get better and better I feel.
Also Stuart Hogg has signed for Exeter after the World Cup next year and the Chiefs play a very similar entertaining style of rugby to this Scotland team. They have been lacking a world class number 15 for quite some time and the signing of Hoggy should fill that huge problem position. Hoggy will excel down there as Exeter’s rugby is a joy to watch at times in the Premiership. With the addition of Hogg, I feel it is only going to get better for the Chiefs and it will also make Hoggy an even better player similar to what Finn’s move to France has done.
The future is bright for our national team 🏴
Put it like this, I've more enthusiastic about watching our national rugby union team than the current national fitba team!
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Originally Posted by Golden Bear
100% agree. It’s not even comparable. You are bonkers if you think otherwise.
Our national football team is a joke and shows no signs of improving. I won’t even be surprised if they get turned over by both Albania and Israel.
Also look at the desire, hunger and pride these rugby lads have/show when they pull on that Scotland shirt. They are proud to wear it and always give it their all till the final whistle. Something you can’t say about our national football team players.
Brilliant first half, great entertainment. Springboks with a narrow half time lead but I'm confident we can get a result. Russell at fly half is the great enigma, unfortunately he's not having the best of games tonight.(So far!)
Russell has been pish. Entertaining match with some great playQuote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
Quite enjoyed the egg chasing today as a one off change to the football. But does anyone think that new Zealand haka is now just an over dramatic bit of theatre. Suppose it always has been but even the Irish crowd were getting bored with how long it took.
Deserved 26-20 win for the bocks in the end . They totally controlled the second half but Scotland were their own worst enemy on occasions.
What a match in Dublin. Irish in front.
Just back home. Probably got what we deserved out of the match - nothing. So many stupid penalties given away at crucial points in the game. I thought we lost an edge when Hogg and Laidlaw went off, but still felt like we were just a couple of plays away from finding a gap.
They're an excellent team though and won't be far off the pace at the World Cup next year. They're both fast and powerful.
What a great atmosphere though, and what an excellent buzz there was in town after the match - South Africa and Scotland fans all readily mingling with no sniff of trouble. Another great matchday experience.
Great game. Ireland were excellent.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Golden Bear
Yeah we we didn’t do ourselves any favours at times. Also felt the ref let them away with a lot of spoiling in the rucks, which was their main tactic in slowing down Scotland, meaning we struggled to get the ball out to our dangerous runners. His interpretation of the scrum was poor as well.
That said, their yellow card was very harsh
Does anyone else think that Laidlaw is really slow getting the ball out? At times yesterday it seemed he always waited an extra second or 2.
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Originally Posted by nellio
i did find myself shouting at the screen a few times telling him to speed it up a bit :greengrin always going to be very difficult against a team that beat the all-blacks in their own backyard, finn russell guilty of kicking a few poor kicks this time around, i was a tad puzzled why the commentator thought SA would possibly suffer when their player got sin-binned as i couldn't see us going through them in the 2nd half even if they went TWO players down, indeed it was SA themselves that scored with another two penalties(i think) in the period the guy was off, as for Ireland...i've thought for the last couple of seasons that they can win the WC next year, just a pity we happen to be in the same group as them :rolleyes: along with the hosts japan(again) and of course the samoans(again) who we only just scraped past in the last WC
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Originally Posted by nellio
Ive thought for a long time that laidlaw’s best attribute is his leadership and calmness in the moment. His service from the ruck is quite slow, there’s always a noticeable difference when Price is playing, he’s much faster at getting the ball out, giving Russell et al that extra split second to do something.
:agree: everyone does. He’s in to take the easy kicks form around 40m. Other than that he doesn’t add too much to the team.Quote:
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VERY exciting looking backline for the Argentina game! Be interesting to see how Hastings and Russell go together. It was a good wee cameo against Fiji but game was already won. If they are all firing on Saturday then there could be fireworks! Would have been good to see either Price or Horne at 9 but I guess GT wants at least one old head to offer some control.
The 12 is seen as the "creative" centre and the 13 is the power usually so should be good to see Russell slot in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
It's normally the other way round to be honest, a power guy doing crash balls at 12, with 13 a bit more creative. Although recently at international level particularly some teams have switched the two players around and have two creative players at 10 and 12 and then a power guy at 13. If I'm remembering correctly it was started by England with Wilkinson and Catt and has continued with Ford and Farrell.Quote:
Originally Posted by nellio
It is generally a solution for teams whose best players are both in the same position at 10 and you don't want to leave someone out, so it makes sense given Hastings is in good form to give it a shot for Scotland.
Russell is a much better 10 than Horne, so in theory he should be a better 12 as well. Doesn't always work like that though.
Yeah I was thinking about Farrell in at 12. Wales played Roberts at 12 usually thinking about it so you are right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio sledge
Well that wasn't a classic! Though I was better off being at Murrayfield than ER by the sounds of it. Conditions obviously didn't help but fair to say the Hastings/Russell experiment didn't work today.
We won but it wasn’t really a good performance. Defensively we did well in preventing the Argentines from getting near our try line. However we offered very little, in fact hardly anything, offensively. The number of penalties we were conceding and the mistakes we were making was absolutely making me very annoyed and angry. Just glad the Argentina player who was taking the pens for them didn’t have his shooting boots on. A better team would have punished us heavily today. Townsend will not be happy with that.
Just watched Joe Schmidt’s post match interview. Looks like he will be announcing on Monday that he will be leaving judging by that. Huge blow for Ireland as he’s a terrific coach.
Russell needs to play at stand off as he isn't a centre. He can be frustrating at times but he is the best we have. I thought our tactics were poor throughout the autumn and we kicked away possession too often. Very important 6 nations coming up. The plus for me lately is that we now have a few decent front row combinations whereas a couple of years ago we were really struggling there.
Ireland are world no ones. Hurrah! I'm sure they'll suffer for it once the All Blacks get their act together.
Cracking game tonight at Murrayfield and an excellent atmosphere too. Edinburgh really played some fast, expansive rugby and boy are we mean defensively!
Decent crowd at the game too, on what was a great night for rugby.
I was at ER but tuned in to see the last 35mins. Through local connections I'm an avid Warriors fan so was disappointed to witness yet another dismal performance against Edinburgh at Murrayfield. The Warriors are their own worst enemy at times, more talented than Edinburgh imo but of no use unless they can prove it .
No Hibs for a few weeks so back to watching Musselburgh in National League 1. Incredible win last week in Glasgow by a point , first time Burgh have ever won against GHA away in their history!!!
Massive game at home on Saturday v Gala, really looking forward to it
Currently 5 points behind the league leaders, so still a chance of winning the league although I think Marr are just too strong
Lost a couple of games before Christmas that could be costly in the end. Doing really well though.Quote:
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How did you get into watching them?
Aye, the 2 recent losses were tough, but Marr at home and Aberdeen away were always going to be difficult. Balanced up a bit by winning in Glasgow though !
7 games left to play with 4 winnable homes and 3 aways v relegation candidates.
It would be good to know WTF is going to happen with league reconstruction next season though :greengrin
I reckon the top 4 or 6 will join up with the remaining Premiership clubs. If Burgh can play league matches v the likes of Hawick next season then that would be amazing.
I got into watching them because one of my lads plays for them. Honestly find it more entertaining this season than going to ER !!
Big rugby year now.
6 nations is in a few weeks then roll on world cup.
Fantastic win for Edinburgh in Toulon tonight! Toulon not the force they once were but even so, Edinurgh only the 3rd team to win there in Europe. A few tricky moments in the 1st half bit totally dominated the second. Bill Mata's offload for the 3rd try was outrageous!
watched it, hope they get a decent crowd next friday against montpellier
Absolutely! Playing some great rugby this year in general and we deserve a decent support.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Can't wait to next Friday now - should be a cracker at Murrayfield under the lights!
Fantastic performance from Edinburgh tonight. They totally dominated play in the second half and ran out deserved winners. I hope they get a good turnout at Murrayfield on Friday night and go on to top their group.
Praise indeed from an avid Warriors fan.!
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Good 5 point win for Glasgow today. In with a shout of a QF as well although apparently it could be an all Scottish QF if things go as well all hope next weekend. That’d be a cracker and obviously mean a Scottish team in the semi.
Come on Edinburgh. Been a few times this year, they are superb under cockers.
Bring on Friday, can't wait.
I tell you what, Edinburgh are a properly good rugby side now. Nothing lucky about that win tonight, thoroughly deserved. What a job Cockerill's done.
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great 19-10 win tonight, lost a wee bit momentum with hamish watson going off with an injury after 30 mins, hope he's ok, very nearly a scary last 3 minutes if that boy had collected for the interception, home QF
Edinburgh with a fantastic win tonight over Montpellier in front of just under 12000 folk. Home champions cup quarter final draw. Great stuff
Suspected break/fracture of his hand. Hope he’s ok for the 6N but looking unlikely.Quote:
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Great win and brilliantbtaht both Scottish teams through to the QF.
Cockerill seems to think it’ll be Munster it Exeter in the QF (depends on tomorrow’s result).
Is the QF draw open? Could Edinburgh get Glasgow?
Bloody freezing cold night at Murrayfield, which perhaps helped. Just arrived back home and I think the car journey just about warmed me back up!
So deserving of the win. Darcy Graham is well deserving of his international call up - he was, once again, outstanding!
It’s seeded - I think it’s 1v8, 2v7,3v6 and 4v5.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
The top 4 group winners are guaranteed a home QF. Not sure if they can play each other - that was mentioned by John Barclay on tv last week but this week it’s not been said and Cockerill was suggesting it’ll be Munster or Exeter.
The TV guys were saying that the attendance was 12,000 which is respectable but dwarfed in a stadium the size of Murrayfield. Hopefully it will not be too long before Edinburgh Rugby get their own purpose built stadium as the atmosphere in a ground which is more suited to their needs will be so much better.
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Are they not building a “Mini Murrayfield” next to the West stand? Definitely agree with you that Edinburgh deserve their own home ground.
Fantastic result last night and well deserved victory. Cockers has done a phenomenal job at Edinburgh and long may it continue! It’s good to see both Scottish clubs doing well domestically and on the European stage as well. It’s good for national team. Only downside from last night was Hamish Watson going off injured. Hope it ain’t nothing serious!
When is the draw for the quarter finals? Can’t seem to find it anywhere! Definitely will be planning on going along and cheering on the Burgh!
There’s no draw - it’s based on the qualifying rank.Quote:
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Ahh right , I didn’t know. Who are we then most likely to play in the quarter finals?
They suggested it would be either Munster or Exeter.Quote:
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Hamish Watson seems to have broken a bone in his hand. He was heading for an assessment today.
They are ‘building’ a wee stadium on the back pitches. It’ll only hold 8000 and is basically 4 make-shift stands like behind the goal at Inverness & Ross County. Not sure I’d call it a mini Murrayfield. Missed opportunity IMHO.Quote:
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GIRUY alert
Am I correct that it was the English and French rugby authorities who forced the changes to rugby's elite European competition. These were designed to increase the number of their teams participating in the competition thereby increasing their chances to win it.
For the current competition, it looks like in the Quarter Finals there will be:
1 English team out of 7 who qualified to the group stage
2 French teams out of 6 ditto
3 Irish teams our of 3 ditto
0 Welsh teams out of 2 ditto
2 Scottish teams out of 2 ditto
That worked out well for the English and teams rugby authorities - GIRUY guys
Edinburgh at home to Munster and Glasgow away (again) to Saracens.
Tough ties - if it goes how we hope it’ll be Glasgow v Edinburgh in the semi...
Edinburgh have a great chance of beating Munster at home but can't see Glasgow getting a win at allianz.
as per the norm in sport nowadays it's down to finance, i don't think Scotland could support 3 top flight teams.Quote:
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Glasgow don't stand a chance away to Saracens imo, Edinburgh should get a 20,000+ attendance for the game v Munster surely, a huge incentive for both Scottish clubs as well with the final getting played at Parkhead :agree:
I agree - I hope they manage but can’t see it. They were good in spells at the weekend down there so you never know.Quote:
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I think Edinburgh will get over 20k, even bigger if Scotland have a good six nations.
Really looking forward to the Six Nations this year. It will be closely contested with the Irish probably starting as pre tournament favourites. It's a pity the Scottish squad has been decimated with injuries but hopefully they perform well and can win a game away from Murrayfield for a change!
I've just settled down for the opening fixture with a generous dram and a large packet of Kettle crisps.
Can't wait!
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I'm heading to Scotstoun tonight for the Warriors game v Ulster. It's a sell out crowd and I'm really looking forward to it. There's always a great atmosphere in the stadium and tonight will be no different. 'Mon you Warriors!
Glasgow v Edinburgh tonight in the Pro 14, Edinburgh have won the two previous meetings this season
live on Premier sports 1 @ 7.25pm
from the BBC
A win for Warriors will ensure a home semi-final in the Pro14, but defeat could consign them to the quarter-finals should Munster win to take over at the top of Conference A.
Edinburgh are still in contention to reach the quarters but defeat could mean they finish fifth in Conference B and miss out on next season's Champions Cup.
If Edinburgh finish fourth, they will enter the play-off for the final Champions Cup place on offer to Pro14 sides, while finishing fifth would consign them to the Challenge Cup.
Stuart Hogg with his new look platinum Blonde hair
20-3 Glasgow HT
So far so good for the Warriors but the game is far from over. Edinburgh have the wind behind them this half and an early score will make things interesting.
easy enough for glasgow 27-3 after an hour, the commentator agreed with me :greengrin in thinking edinburgh have to work so hard to get a try(they were camped on the glasgow 5 metre line for 10 mins) whereas glasgow can score a try with the blink of an eye out of nothing
yet another simple Glasgow try
34-3
consolation try for Edinburgh 34-10