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    So the seasons begun and its that time again where the ref’s of the SPL are blamed by fans for every point lost, every throw in given against them, every dubious tackle, every red or yellow card given and made the general scape goat (I’m sure there’ll be more goat references during the season..) for all the short comings that are blatantly obvious about Scottish Football.

    First things first though. I’m not writing this to back up every single referee decision that is made this season. I’ll try and give factual reasons why an offence is a yellow or red card, how referee’s are asked to interpret the laws of the game, the positioning of the officials when the offence is committed, the role of the asst. referee (and now the 4th official) and give an honest opinion.

    One thing that I’ll never be able to change is the thought that a referee deliberately goes out to favour another team..i.e. the Old Firm. A mistake is a mistake, the refs at the top of their game have worked too hard to get where they are to throw it away by blatantly giving decisions that TV will prove to be incorrect. There is no hiding place these days with TV, they’ll get scrutinised and castigated by every paper in the land and with referees having ‘professional’ roles outside of the game their credibility will start to leak into their livelihoods.

    Too many mistakes and they’ll never progress, years of training to get to the top and then throw it all away. Sorry to spoil the thought but every single decision, yes even that dodgy throw in, is marked down by the SPL assessor in a points based system. Get too many small things wrong and the mark goes down, and get a howler and you’ll be given a ‘rest’. Decisions are given in an instant, there is no time to ‘cheat’...unless you’ve been in that position then I don’t think that you can fully contemplate that from a fans perspective. I never did.

    So onto this weekend just passed...

    Joe Cole sending off V Arsenal
    A classic example of what referee’s are being asked to ensure is a straight red card. The arguments against it being red I’ve read, and guessed, that it wasn’t two footed, he isn’t that type of player, he was looking at the ball and the Arsenal player made the most of it.

    In these situations the question you’ve got to ask yourself was Cole ever in control of himself the moment after he left the ground to tackle the full back? the answer is 'No'. Not a chance could Joe Cole ever control himself mid flight and the only thing that was ever going to stop Cole was when he made impact into the defenders leg.

    There is nothing in the laws about using two feet, taking into account the type of player he his nor what actually happened to his opponent or if he played the ball first.

    Shirt pulling in the box in the SPL
    I think there were 3 (Nish, Killie, Hartley) penalties given at the weekend for tugs on shirts, this is another one of the things that used to constantly annoy supporters when they used to see no action being taken (as they maybe were dismissed as being a ‘soft’ penalty by the referee) but there will be a quite significant increase in awards of penalties to try and stamp out this out in the next few months to endorse the message that has been sent to every club in Scotland.

    Throughout the season I'll try to post up on what's happened the previous weekend and will attempt to give an opinion on why a referee came to that decision.
    Comments 11 Comments
    1. Twa Cairpets's Avatar
      Twa Cairpets -
      Good stuff - should be good and hopefully assess some of the misconceptions that lots of fans have
    1. Hibs Class's Avatar
      Hibs Class -
      Looking forward to reading these articles. I reckon I've a pretty good knowledge of the laws, but every season I find out something new, either on the law changes or in interpretation of them
    1. --------'s Avatar
      -------- -
      I'm still trying to work out why Motherwell weren't awarded a penalty for Hogg's challenge on Sutton earlier in the game. Personally, I'd have given it.
    1. Jack's Avatar
      Jack -
      Can you please write something answering the comments ‘how can it be a foul, he clearly played the ball?’ When the player ‘in possession’ can in no way continue to play normally because they end up on their backside as the follow through of the toe poke has brought them down!
    1. Hibby D's Avatar
      Hibby D -
      I'm really looking forward to following this each week! Great idea Admins
    1. maturehibby's Avatar
      maturehibby -
      You are going to be a busy boy as the majority of the decisions will be against us .
      Watched the game on sunday when we got a dubious second goal via Hanlons arm and said to my neighbour watch for Thomson giving Motherwell a penalty as he will have been told after giving the goal that he had boobed and he was re-dressing the error - and dont tell me it doesnt go on as I was proved right .
    1. Retired Ref's Avatar
      Retired Ref -
      Quote Originally Posted by Doddie View Post
      I'm still trying to work out why Motherwell weren't awarded a penalty for Hogg's challenge on Sutton earlier in the game. Personally, I'd have given it.
      Hi Doddie, Unfortunately in these circumstances the referee has given the decision and it's really down to his opinion on the challenge.
      Looking at it again Thomson's positioning is pretty much spot on and his next thought would be how A) how likely Sutton was to getting to the ball and B) Sutton had already gone down quite easily throughout the game and Thomson decided that this was another time where the player was trying to force a decision (note that there is no mention of simulation here, going down easily or cheap will make the referee think twice though).
      I think that Hogg personally was just stronger and was able to put his body between him and the ball.
    1. Retired Ref's Avatar
      Retired Ref -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
      Can you please write something answering the comments ‘how can it be a foul, he clearly played the ball?’ When the player ‘in possession’ can in no way continue to play normally because they end up on their backside as the follow through of the toe poke has brought them down!
      Jack, as you say there is no rule to say it's not a free kick if the ball is played. Clearly if the player has not shown any consideration to his opponents safety then a free kick should be awarded.
    1. Retired Ref's Avatar
      Retired Ref -
      Quote Originally Posted by maturehibby View Post
      You are going to be a busy boy as the majority of the decisions will be against us .
      Watched the game on sunday when we got a dubious second goal via Hanlons arm and said to my neighbour watch for Thomson giving Motherwell a penalty as he will have been told after giving the goal that he had boobed and he was re-dressing the error - and dont tell me it doesnt go on as I was proved right .
      Will any supporter of the SPL say anything different to your opening post? Rangers fans think that Celtic get all the decisions, Celtic think that Rangers do and the rest of the SPL think that they get no decisions when playing the Old Firm.
      Dubious 2nd goal, I'd say that Thomson's position wasn't great as he has a habit of not going into the penalty area but even then the ball almost rolls down Hanlon's head, off the Motherwell player, back onto Hanlon's arm but at the same time it hits the Motherwell's players arm and then drops into the net.
      The referee is only miked up to the match officials (inc 4th official), if one of them had seen an offence then they have the ability to tell the referee before the match re-starts. Why would they then tell him afterwards if they are assessed as a team and not individuals.
      The 4th official isn't going to ask Chic Young on the touchline what happened as what do you think Chic is going to do with his latest exclusive about a match official asking to see a decision on the TV.
      Likewise there is a 5th listening device which the SFA Referee Observer has in the main stand, note that he is not able to communicate to the officials but can listen only, would he be part of the cover up as well?
      You were only 'proved right' when Nish decided to pull on the guys shirt within the box.
    1. Jack's Avatar
      Jack -
      Thank you
    1. Franck is God's Avatar
      Franck is God -
      It will be good to have a referee's voice and opinion on the site this season.

      I do have some moans about some things in the game these days. The fictitious 'Last Man' rule when there is no such thing. A red card is warranted when a foul committed stops a clear goal scoring opportunity and whether a player is that last man is irrelevant. A defender being able to usher the ball out for a goal kick or throw in, that used to be called obstruction and resulted in an indirect free kick. And the advantage rule should either be officially introduced into the game or completely forgotten about.

      Generally speaking though I don't think that the standard of refereeing is nearly as bad as some would suggest and taking Sunday's game as an example I think Thomson was right to allow Hanlon's goal and also give the penalty against Nish. I thought Hogg took a chance with the challenge on Sutton in the box but he didn't have a clear run on the ball and there is no rule that says Hogg needs to get out of his way. A very generous ref may have given an indirect free kick for obstruction but I didn't see it as a foul.
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